Empires & Revolutions v3: 1900's edition - Games

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36393320]I'm writing the turn tomorrow, sorry about the delay, I had a shitload of things to do this weekend (flew up to Boston to hang out with my dad) and today I had more rehab for my knee. My knee is healing quite nicely though, I should be able to play basketball by mid-July.[/QUOTE] Good for you, Hope you knee heals up

Fuck you Seed and Ven, having so many government and economic changes...so much typing.

I fucking hate this layout. It looks so idiotic.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36407528]Fuck you Seed and Ven, having so many government and economic changes...so much typing.[/QUOTE] To be fair, you're the one who said I need to initiate reforms in order to be communist. Reforming I do do.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36419348']To be fair, you're the one who said I need to initiate reforms in order to be communist. Reforming I do do.[/QUOTE] Ridiculously fast reforming.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36419621]Ridiculously fast reforming.[/QUOTE] This'll be three years. Considering that revolutions occur in mere months, and that Russia changed from a fuedalist monarchy to a parliamentary republic during a world war, a famine, and continued general strikes in the time span between July 1915 and February 1917. It's not like I'm throwing the nation into revolution or anything, I'm just yanking power the way I want it to go, and it is fairly transitional, at least it's not all at once.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36419758']This'll be three years. Considering that revolutions occur in mere months, and that Russia changed from a fuedalist monarchy to a parliamentary republic during a world war, a famine, and continued general strikes in the time span between July 1915 and February 1917. It's not like I'm throwing the nation into revolution or anything, I'm just yanking power the way I want it to go, and it is fairly transitional, at least it's not all at once.[/QUOTE] Russia had a whole lot more going on in the transition from White Tsarism to Red Tsarism than a simple set of rapid reforms. Doing such a thing is insane.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36420078]Russia had a whole lot more going on in the transition from White Tsarism to Red Tsarism than a simple set of rapid reforms. Doing such a thing is insane.[/QUOTE] So maybe I oversimplified, but my point is that they still ended up at a parliamentary republic starting from a puppet Duma under the tsar in 2 years through basically reform.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36420103']So maybe I oversimplified, but my point is that they still ended up at a parliamentary republic starting from a puppet Duma under the tsar in 2 years through basically reform.[/QUOTE] There's still a lot all around that, what with the 1905 revolution, the war with Japan, etc. If I were you, I would be following the polices of Sergei Witte and Pytor Stolypin.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36420140]There's still a lot all around that, what with the 1905 revolution, the war with Japan, etc. If I were you, I would be following the polices of Sergei Witte and Pytor Stolypin.[/QUOTE] Neither one would be useful here- they were liberals who industrialized and introduced agricultural reforms, neither paved and way to notable political or economic reform and neither came close to socialism/revolutionary reform. Germany at this time is already a well-industrialized nation, my reforms and policies are socialist-bound, not liberal and not in their direction.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36420218']Neither one would be useful here- they were liberals who industrialized and introduced agricultural reforms, neither paved and way to notable political or economic reform and neither came close to socialism/revolutionary reform. Germany at this time is already a well-industrialized nation, my reforms and policies are socialist-bound, not liberal and not in their direction.[/QUOTE] Actually they did introduce political/social reform in some way or another. Sergei Witte helped with the first Russian constitution and with setting up the Dumas. He also established a law limiting working hours in 1897. The work he did managed to hugely change Russia from a near-fuedal state to a industrialising and modernising one by 1914. Stolypin meanwhile managed to actually make the Dumas do something worthwhile, and his land reforms would have got somewhere if Russia only had more time. Some of the cooperatives he set up managed to live on into the USSR. These men are quite under represented in Russian history (Witte moreso) for the work they did.

So, Sobotnik, you going to join as someone?

I think I have an accurate picture on the future of the capitalist nations. [t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YHfztK8ziCU/TNG9TyQB_cI/AAAAAAAAACo/aXV4TBLOQ44/s1600/Liberty+Prime+Propaganda.jpg[/t] Anyway, on to the matter at hand. The speed at which Germany plans to reform could very well lead it to economic ruin, at least temporarily so.

I'm planning on actually finishing this turn tonight.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;36420455]I think I have an accurate picture on the future of the capitalist nations. [t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YHfztK8ziCU/TNG9TyQB_cI/AAAAAAAAACo/aXV4TBLOQ44/s1600/Liberty+Prime+Propaganda.jpg[/t] Anyway, on to the matter at hand. The speed at which Germany plans to reform could very well lead it to economic ruin, at least temporarily so.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFbeDw-Wwmg[/media] Turn on the subtitles

I changed the Ottoman Flag [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3ux0D.png[/IMG] Does it need any adjustments?

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;36436631]I changed the Ottoman Flag [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3ux0D.png[/IMG] Does it need any adjustments?[/QUOTE] Needs more bloom

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;36436651]Needs more bloom[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2vivk.png[/IMG]

[B]Empires and Revolutions: Turn 2 - 1901[/B] [B]MAP: [/B][t]http://niggaupload.com/images/unqvB.png[/t] [B]Germany - [Seed Eater][/B] [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38678023/GermanyFlag.png[/IMG] -The Kaiser steps down for what is suspected to be pressure from the Social Democratic Workers and the position is abolished. The Reichstag is disbanded and 58% of seats are guaranteed to the SDP, 12% to the General German Workers' Association (ADAV), and 10% to the Social Democratic Workers' Party of Germany (SDAP), the rest is left to free election. The Transitional German Workingmen's Association is implemented to help smooth the transition from capitalism to socialism, ensuring that the military doesn't gain full power. Protests begin in Frankfurt and Berlin due to the sudden changes that have caused mass upheaval worldwide economically. Germany's economy is in shambles due to debts piling up as a result of nobody spending anything on the German government. (This is only a temporary side-effect of such a dramatic change in the government, it can become worse if nothing is done in Frankfurt and Berlin). -Enlistment campaigns begin but are ignored. -A join-military training day is hosted with the Austro-Hungarian government, helping the relationship and increasing morale. -An embassador is sent to Canada, for what reason is to be seen. -The government begins the process of researching an auto-cooling system for their currently inefficent machine-guns. The economy is further strained by this funding but not dramatically so. -Caravans are seen leaving Germany and heading towards Africa. It would seem that weapons and other goods are being sent to Ethiopia. The government denies involvement but the question is left of whom is sending these supplies. [B]Commonwealth of Democratic Socialist Canadian Territories - Ven Keao (DPennington)[/B] [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/bxhWV2.png[/IMG] -The research of a mask that blocks out outside gasses using a filter is begun, a mask is produced by December but most soldiers complain about its bulkiness and uncomfortability. -Rifled weapons are built, allowing for devastating fire upon the enemy lines. Cannons are given similar designs with similar results. -The first modern frigate is designed and built at a high price, further production would result in a heavy strain on the economy. -Combat Dirigibles are developed but are decided to be too unreliable in relation to the expense. -Submarine and Frigate outputs are increased but put a heavy strain on the economy, there is now more expenditure than there is income. -The mass production of small arms begins, they are fairly cheap so this does nothing to affect the economy. -A new uniform is introduced, designed specifically for cold weather conditions. -Canada decides that it will gladly accept an alliance with the United Kingdom at a price, autonomy for the Canadian government. -Canada asks for autonomy officially. -A request is made for the United Kingdom to relinquish Prince William Island and Newfoundland and Labrador (the Eastern regions of Canada). -Many construction projects begin around the nation, large power plants are built in vast urban centers that are relied upon for industrial output, factories are built to increase the output of goods, mainly military goods, foundries are built to smelt metals that are being mined across Canada, and the construction of a railway network begins. Industrial output is increased dramatically. -Two is established that effectively ends any and all child labor and increase education tenfold. Those under the age of 16 are prohibited from working. Those under the age of 18 are required to go to school. -Women are allowed to work in factories to make up for the loss of child labor, a huge propaganda project is started to change the image of women from low-order housewive to the industrial backbone of Canada and the very reason Canada can thrive. -Canada is renamed to the Commonwealth of Democratic Socialist Canadian Territories -The year is an average year, the economy doesn't get any better due to high expenditure, nor does it get any worse due to the industrial output increasing. [B]China - Ruskie [/B] [IMG]http://niggaupload.com/images/bqMEv.png[/IMG] -The Reform is slowed down, the economy improves slightly as the strain is lessened. -A few divisions are sent to put down the Boxer Rebellion. This proves to be especially successful, the entire rebellion is destroyed and the economy essentially liberated. -More economic experts are hired, these men and women are becoming far less timid due to the end of the war. -A new taxation system is implemented, it is said that the cheers of the civilians of China could be heard from the Americas. -Infrastructure becomes the top priority to get the reforms working, large amounts of money are put into the development of roads, railways, and mines. Trade is far easier and the strain that was previously put upon farmers becomes a lighter weight. -Following Canada, China implements a "shift" idea that allows 24/7 working in the factories. -Further paranoia in the government as more government and military officials are "purged". Everybody in the government fears for their lives...that is besides the emperor. -Further westernization occurs, namely the increase in the building of factories. -A well known Opium Smuggler is killed by an unknown source. It is thought to be the fabled Secret Police. -The Chinese language is bastardized and simplified. [B]Ethiopia - MountainWatcher [/B] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IDU2C.png[/IMG] -The military budget is decreased by a solid 5%, the economy shows signs of improvement. -Aid is sought from those religiously strong nations in Europe and the Americas. France and Spain show up, nobody else really gives a fuck though. Christianity is spread throughout the regions surrounding Ethiopia. -Mining efforts increase, diamond excavation increases tenfold and the economy further improves. -A vast amount of homeless and otherwise poor people are rapidly disappearing from villages, most of them arrive in the Americas and the majority are women. The government plays it off as a minor crime-ring but it is thought to go much deeper than that. -Church going is mandatory. If church is missed two weeks in a row the offender has their smallest finger on their left hand chopped off. If they run out of fingers the entire hand is lopped off, then it moves on to the right hand. -Vast amounts of money arrive from what seems to be Germany. [B]The Netherlands - Aerkhan[/B] -The army is further trained to be ready to attack or defend. A lot of money goes into this and the Netherlands seems to have a bit of a problem on its hands economically. -A diplomat is sent to Germany to request an alliance (you can do this by PM as long as it is confirmed by both sides in the turn). -The economy is focused upon the militarization of the nation. -The entirety of parliament is dissolved and the monarch is given total rule over the Netherlands. [I]I want a flag from you next turn, it must be 250x150[/I] [B]Russia - Intoxicated Spy[/B] [IMG]http://web02.aviationweek.com/media/images/defense_images/Miscellaneous/RussianFlagPRESIDENTOFRUSSIA.jpg[/IMG] -Military bases are built along the border of Europe, the expenditure is discarded by the Russian President (covered later) but the numbers don't lie, it was quite expensive. -A Non-Aggression pact is requested with Germany, the United Kingdom, and Austria-Hungary. Austria-Hungary and the United Kingdom accept, Germany's answer is awaited. -An official declaration is made that Russia will not attack anybody from Europe unless Russia is attacked first. -Weapons factories are built all across Russia. -Scientists are funded by the state to research physics. Nothing groundbreaking has been reported yet. -Mass deforestation begins, especially in Siberia. -A military draft of exactly 33% of the male population begins. -The government system is changed to mirror that of England. A two-party system is created and free elections begin. The monarch no longer has any true power over the government. This transition goes surprisingly smoothly although there is a slight economic downturn. -Free education is given to the civilians of Russia. -Poland is granted limited independence, similar to that of what Canada is, if Russia goes to war Poland must follow. Poland is also required to support Russia in economic matters. -Prior to the Polish liberation a small protest begins in the name of the "Kadets" in Warsaw. These so called "Kadets" are credited to the spreading of the message of idealism. [B]Italy - Liem[/B] [IMG]http://www.flagsonline.it/Bandiere/bangrandi/pirata-bandana.jpg[/IMG] -The border is fortified out of what is thought to be paranoia. -A formal navy is finally formed. It consists of exactly zero boats. -After sitting around like idiots for awhile the government decides to build boats and recruit sailors. The Italian navy is still weak due to these boats not being very top-of-the-line. -Requests are sent out to anybody and everybody to allow the Italians to build embassies on their soil. -Alliance requests are sent to the following nations: Canada, Spain, Britain, Brazil. -Cheese and Pizza are heavily exported. The crates are all marked with the words "better than Maple Syrup". And so the competition begins. -An internation trade market is opened. -Reforms are done slowly to form Italy into a democracy rather than a monarchy. In three years Italy will become a democracy modeled after the United Kingdom. [B]Japan - Crossu88[/B] -Propaganda is distributed to the masses, increasing recruitement. -The military is slowly amassed in both the army and the navy. -Research begins on the velocity of the rifles and the effectiveness of them overall. Results come back that the rifles are a far cry from the very advanced rifles that the western world has. -Demands are made for armored vehicles. These demands are honored and the first Japanese armored vehicle is built. It is slow as fuck. -Japan imports goods to Korea which then imports them to China. All money is given to Japan. [B]Ottoman Empire - Daniel Smith [/B] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3ux0D.png[/IMG] -The development of a "rocket cannon" begins. -The borders of British Egypt and Greece are strengthened. -An alliance is requested with Russia, as is a trade agreement. -A railway system projet is initiated and scheduled to be finished by 1905. -Heavy investments are made in the extraction of oil. -Religious freedom is granted...except the Jews...fuck the Jews. :v: [B]United Kingdom - Overpain[/B] -Research is begun on the development of a trustworthy airplane. Nothing groundbreaking is developed although there is a promising design in production. -Armored Cars are built for the first time, they, like their Japanese counterparts, are slow and unreliable. -All parts of America that the UK still owns is given to Canada in exchange for an alliance. -A non-aggression pact is agreed with Russia. Germany is still a question mark. -A proposition is sent to Ethiopia. In exchange for food and other support Ethiopia will give half of its land to the crown. -A law is established that every citizen is to be granted a month of vacation time. Businesses gawk at this idea but are forced to accept it anyway. -An international newspaper is established. [B][U]ALL PM'S ARE TO BE TITLED WITH YOUR NATION'S NAME AND THE TURN NUMBER[/U][/B] [B]IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, SEND IN A FLAG WITH 250x150 DIMENSIONS ALONG WITH YOUR NEXT TURN[/B] [B]Music:[/B] [I]Fuck music.[/I]

Shouldn't flags be realistic? For example Ven Keao and Liem's are unrealistic.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;36437375]Shouldn't flags be realistic? For example Ven Keao and Liem's are unrealistic.[/QUOTE] Start a vote, I personally don't care but I'll implement the desired outcome.

"How is my flag unrealistic? The new Canada is a communist nation. The Hammer and Sickle are very common Communist symbols, as is the golden wreath around it. The maple leaf replaces the star designating it as the Commonwealth of Democratic Socialist Canadian Territories. Mind your own business. My flag is fine."

Ven Keao sure does love his maple syrup and submarines.

[QUOTE=DPennington;36437848]"How is my flag unrealistic? The new Canada is a communist nation. The Hammer and Sickle are very common Communist symbols, as is the golden wreath around it. The maple leaf replaces the star designating it as the Commonwealth of Democratic Socialist Canadian Territories. Mind your own business. My flag is fine."[/QUOTE] I think the point is that your flag wouldn't be all grungy.

I demand entry to Austria :D

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36438060']I think the point is that your flag wouldn't be all grungy.[/QUOTE] "Maybe it's dirty. It looks nice. Better than his. No offence Daniel. Really though, bro, unless the flag is grossly stupid like rainbows or sugar plums or just plain ugly you really shouldn't be trying to get the GM to ban it. I worked hard on my flag."

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;36361498]Screw you, commie, next thing I know, you'll want my people not brutally oppressed[/QUOTE] I'll fund you. For Rights of way. [editline]21st June 2012[/editline] Or maybe I can join as a Revolutionary in Germany. Maybe Ill form my own Country .... :V:

[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;36438111]I'll fund you. For Rights of way. [editline]21st June 2012[/editline] Or maybe I can join as a Revolutionary in Germany. Maybe Ill form my own Country ....[/QUOTE] Revolutionary in Revolutionary Germany? Good luck on that one.

And maybe I will blow up the world.

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;36438221]And maybe I will blow up the world.[/QUOTE] I was about to do that in the old E&R .. but that was more of a worldwide epidemic and Contagion rather than a blowing it up.