Empires and revolutions - Historical Forum RP V2: Blame Brazil for all our problems. - Games

What allies can you possibly have?

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35406736]What allies can you possibly have?[/QUOTE] None besides NPCs. But I don't need allies. MAD. If I'm going down, so is the enemy.

You're totally bluffing. You can't have any nukes. All that's left is weaponized spanish flu or whatever you might have brewed up in those labs of yours.

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35406852]You're totally bluffing. You can't have any nukes. All that's left is weaponized spanish flu or whatever you might have brewed up in those labs of yours.[/QUOTE] We'll see. ;)

By the way, any kind of government change in Switzerland will be met negatively by the citizens and they will nearly instantly revolt.

Which will be further reason for seed to take "preventive measures" and invade Switzerland. I can see through your games, maaaan.

So, who is interested in being a temporary mod so that I can actually get shit done for my class?

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35407051]By the way, any kind of government change in Switzerland will be met negatively by the citizens and they will nearly instantly revolt.[/QUOTE] come ON I'm trying to give them MORE FREEDOM. why the fuck is that a bad thing? [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Face;35407103]So, who is interested in being a temporary mod so that I can actually get shit done for my class?[/QUOTE] I would if I wasn't involved as West Germany and wasn't already GM for GaW.

Take this fucking freedom, you goddamn idiots! Just stop resisting, fucking take it!

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35407107']come ON I'm trying to give them MORE FREEDOM. why the fuck is that a bad thing? [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] I would if I wasn't involved as West Germany and wasn't already GM for GaW.[/QUOTE] They're democratic, that's more free than Communism or Socialism by far. Switzerland is done with that.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35407118][/QUOTE] You don't seem to understand the German brand of communism. Workers self manage their workplaces in a democratic manner. The central government has little to no say in what you can and can't do, it's practically a collective band of independent communities. The local governments are pure democracies. The constitution protects all kinds of shit. Citizens get whatever they need to survive, plus free higher education. How is that not more freedom? It's political [I]and[/I] economic freedom, [U]plus[/U] protections from economic violence. This is what's in place in all nations of the International. I honestly can't see any legitimate way that people would say, "Hey, let's give that up in favor of getting told how to live and work and will guaranteed poverty to part of the population! Yay!"

No communism works that way, it is impossible to act out. There is corruption in West German's government on all levels due to this fact. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] Communism, [I]in theory[/I], is quite an admirable idea. The problem is that it is impossible for it to become reality due to the corruption that comes from a position of power and leadership.

Haha your communism is corrupt and shitty Seed :v:

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35407177]No communism works that way, it is impossible to act out. There is corruption in West German's government on all levels due to this fact. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] Communism, [I]in theory[/I], is quite an admirable idea. The problem is that it is impossible for it to become reality due to the corruption that comes from a position of power and leadership.[/QUOTE] Bull fucking horse shit. You can't just undo 11 turns of my ideology working like that. I've never had problems with corruption, at all, and never has there been anything said about this. You just pulled that out of your ass, and it's dead wrong. From the very beginning I was setting up autonomous communities in a loose union of states. It worked perfectly fine in my nation just as well as it does in Sweden and as well as it did in the USSR's commune project- which was very successful. You can't pull shit like "oh yea btw your entire government is shit. This contradicts 11 turns and the entirety of your existence, as well as your actions as a nation, and any common sense, but that's how it is." And you don't want to get into an ideological argument with me, because I'll win when it comes between anything leftist and whatever you're going to argue, but you're also wrong on that point, because I took the [I]exact measures needed[/I] to prevent that by using direct democracy with local governments holding more power than federal, and all representatives able to be recalled at any point in time if needed by simple majority vote. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] I mean for fucks sake, I gave the population GUNS to protect themselves from government authority. There's a reason I can only get a tax collected once every 2 years and can't draft anyone.

If nobody else is willing I will take the role as GM for some years. I'm not prepared to drop Russia tho. But I promise to be fair and not to have them do anything OP or overly daft. Sent your PMs and nine edits to me.

i totally want mr. face back in the game and another guy that still wants to play with a nation messing around with my stuff.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35407345']Bull fucking horse shit. You can't just undo 11 turns of my ideology working like that. I've never had problems with corruption, at all, and never has there been anything said about this. You just pulled that out of your ass, and it's dead wrong. From the very beginning I was setting up autonomous communities in a loose union of states. It worked perfectly fine in my nation just as well as it does in Sweden and as well as it did in the USSR's commune project- which was very successful. You can't pull shit like "oh yea btw your entire government is shit. This contradicts 11 turns and the entirety of your existence, as well as your actions as a nation, and any common sense, but that's how it is." [B]And you don't want to get into an ideological argument with me, because I'll win when it comes between anything leftist and whatever you're going to argue,[/B] but you're also wrong on that point, because I took the [I]exact measures needed[/I] to prevent that by using direct democracy with local governments holding more power than federal, and all representatives able to be recalled at any point in time if needed by simple majority vote. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] I mean for fucks sake, I gave the population GUNS to protect themselves from government authority. There's a reason I can only get a tax collected once every 2 years and can't draft anyone.[/QUOTE] Watch the fuck out, guys, marx just joined the game.

Fine. If me been GM and President of Russia proves to be such a big issue then I'll drop Russia. This is only supposed to be temporary.

Oh just wait for Face to do the turn himself I'm fine with waiting.

Wait, so Eat Children is the new GM?

No, if face hasn't said it, it isn't true.

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35407345']Bull fucking horse shit. You can't just undo 11 turns of my ideology working like that. I've never had problems with corruption, at all, and never has there been anything said about this. You just pulled that out of your ass, and it's dead wrong. From the very beginning I was setting up autonomous communities in a loose union of states. It worked perfectly fine in my nation just as well as it does in Sweden and as well as it did in the USSR's commune project- which was very successful. You can't pull shit like "oh yea btw your entire government is shit. This contradicts 11 turns and the entirety of your existence, as well as your actions as a nation, and any common sense, but that's how it is." And you don't want to get into an ideological argument with me, because I'll win when it comes between anything leftist and whatever you're going to argue, but you're also wrong on that point, because I took the [I]exact measures needed[/I] to prevent that by using direct democracy with local governments holding more power than federal, and all representatives able to be recalled at any point in time if needed by simple majority vote. [editline]2nd April 2012[/editline] I mean for fucks sake, I gave the population GUNS to protect themselves from government authority. There's a reason I can only get a tax collected once every 2 years and can't draft anyone.[/QUOTE] Why do you think Wurttemburg so easily broke away? Your nation is still strong, yes. Also, going direct democracy at the local level is worse than communism at the local level in a sense. Democracy at the high level and communism/socialism at the low levels would be the best balance of things. Also, wizard` is the mod for a couple of turns while I focus on school and things of that nature. Should only be a few turns. If wizard` does good he can be the full time mod. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] Also. Poll Who would rather me be mod? Who would rather me be East Germany again? [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] I'll probably rejoin as East Germany anyway but I just am curious. :v:

I want you to rejoin the game, but are you sure Krieg would give up East Germany? [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] Also, Don't send my turn to wizard, I want to rewrite it. If you are sending it to him.

Can you forward my turn to wizard`?

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;35416304]I want you to rejoin the game, but are you sure Krieg would give up East Germany? [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] Also, Don't send my turn to wizard, I want to rewrite it. If you are sending it to him.[/QUOTE] Shit, too late. Alert him that the turn is void and send yours. Also, Kriegs and I worked out a deal. He'll own Austria.

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35416208]Why do you think Wurttemburg so easily broke away? Your nation is still strong, yes. Also, going direct democracy at the local level is worse than communism at the local level in a sense. Democracy at the high level and communism/socialism at the low levels would be the best balance of things. [/QUOTE] What? No, that [I]is[/I] communism. A weak, decentralized state, if any, with democratic and autonomous local communities. See? SEE? You don't know shit. My nation is doing just fine, and if you try to pull bullshit like "hurr your nation is corrupt and authoritarian and i know this because i dont know shit about communism or west german politics" then I'm right out doing what I can to fuck this game up. I didn't spend 11+ turns and fight for some French fuckers and Swiss fuckers to be liberated just to have someone else tell me the politics of my own country, because that's an abuse of power. You can't just change someone's entire ideology and the way their country works without reason. That's a gamebreaker. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] Forward my shit to Wizard. I vote you take Austria and Kriegs remains as East Germany.

Forwarded everybody's turns. Also to: Eat Children, Ven Kaeo, and UrbanMachismo Your edits are void due to the fact that you did not isolate the edits. You used your entire turn and then added the edits into it. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35416409']What? No, that [I]is[/I] communism. A weak, decentralized state, if any, with democratic and autonomous local communities. See? SEE? You don't know shit. My nation is doing just fine, and if you try to pull bullshit like "hurr your nation is corrupt and authoritarian and i know this because i dont know shit about communism or west german politics" then I'm right out doing what I can to fuck this game up. I didn't spend 11+ turns and fight for some French fuckers and Swiss fuckers to be liberated just to have someone else tell me the politics of my own country, because that's an abuse of power. You can't just change someone's entire ideology and the way their country works without reason. That's a gamebreaker. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] Forward my shit to Wizard. I vote you take Austria and Kriegs remains as East Germany.[/QUOTE] Communism only works well in a small level. If it is a large level it becomes corrupt. That's what I'm saying has happened. And I'm taking East Germany because that is who I was before and I intend to become them again.

Face ,what are you fucking doing arguing with seed, he'll fuck your shit up, son. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] I mean, run home and lock the doors.

We argued it over steam. As far as the issue of my ideology and communism goes, I won. Face won on the issue of Switzerland, though. And while I am corrupt, it's not nearly as bad as some other nations, and we don't see eye to eye on that. It's a non issue for the moment.

ah fuck it, I will keep it how it wrote it.