Empires and revolutions - Historical Forum RP V2: Blame Brazil for all our problems. - Games

ОСВОБОЖДЕНИЕ [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Wait hold on that isn't Maple Syrup Speak...

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35468748]1) That's still continued play. You had two nations, and you forced me out of one with your other. That's a bullshit cheating tactic and you know it. 2) The Confederate Regions did NOT want to be part of the United States. I will liberate them 3) In AMERICA. The CONFEDERATE states (pretty much everything north of the Mason Dixon) should still have a hatred against the Americans. It's only been like 5-10 years they're still technically occupied and oppressed. Plus the fact that in your efforts to remain subtle you never did anything in your turns to make them not hate you, like giving them rights, rebuilding the war torn areas, etc. You just left them. 4) Except that you don't. You're not taking into account a LOT of factors that change the outcome you're just trying to make it seem like America won't lose because it was your nation. Just fucking give it up Face. America is going to fall, and faster than you think it should or want it to, because Canada is vastly more powerful than they are. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] No, damn it. I'm liberating 9 former Confederate States and the Manhattan district of the New York confederate state. The fuck do you care it's an NPC nation, and I got the go-ahead from Eli and Kreig.[/QUOTE] This is why just about everybody hates you. I could care less about America being my former nation. I'm trying to state the fact that you are, in [I]no way[/I] that much more powerful than America is. I'm gearing up to become East Germany again, and I [I]know[/I] they are stronger than you are. As long as you stop at the former confederate border I'll stay put, but don't push further into American lands.

Fuck you I'll 'push' where I want. Germany isn't anywhere near as strong as I am neither you OR america are in the top 10. I'm also allies with Russia and Arabia. I will liberate the Confederate Nations and then I will take the rest of America to better those nations and myself. I have been given the go-ahead by Eli and Kreigsmarine. That's all I need. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Seriously Face where the hell do you get off You don't even CONTROL East Germany yet and you're already making demands with it. Demands that encompass territory you have no say over. I keep my shit to the Americas. I don't meddle in European affairs. I would [i]appreciate[/i] the same in return. You have fun in Europe and Asia and Africa just stay out of the Americas. Americas for Brazilians, Columbians, and Canadians. Thank you very much.

I'm about to be East Germany dumbfuck. And I'm pretty positive all three Germanic states are stronger than Canada is. By far.

I know you're ABOUT to be but you aren't YET. Kreigsmarine is taking Austria, and he and I are pretty friendly and he doesn't care about me taking America. And I REALLY doubt Seed is going to be all buddy buddy with you. Regardless, my point stands. How dare you try to dictate foreign policy in the Americas? Stick to your own hemisphere and stay out of ours. America isn't yours anymore, and it isn't your ally anymore. It's an overgrown NPC nation that you took control of to force me out of the area. I haven't forgiven or forgotten that.

Face, threatening to get involved in America is pushing it with me. I'm not going to take kindly to you invading another continent so far away. You have no business there, and I have to agree with Canuckistan on this one. Any action by East Germany in America will be seen as a strong negative action to West Germany. I know you want to stop the border militarization, but that's not the way to do it.

Thank you, Seed. I appreciate your backing in this issue.

Of course Seed sides with you, he's all for expansion. The way I see it, you're exacting revenge on nothing, that NPC nation could be used as a slot for newcomers but everybody on this thread regards NPC nations are worthless. That's the majority of the reason I'd like to see the US stand. I suppose due to the unpopularity of any kind of involvement elsewhere I will back down for now. But I do have to ask that you please leave the slot open for others.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35469691] Regardless, my point stands. How dare you try to dictate foreign policy in the Americas?[B] Stick to your own hemisphere[/B] and stay out of ours. [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Hemisferio_Norte.png[/IMG] [sp]BRB, Invading Canada as it's in my hemisphere.[/sp] :v:

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35471480]Of course Seed sides with you, he's all for expansion. [/QUOTE] Since when? Did I take that position before or after I continuously bitch about people invading NPC nations and being expansionist? You cheated, Canada lost because of it. There's a legitimate reason behind it. You aren't involved in America and Germany has no reason to be. [I]Your[/I] reasoning for being involved is not, and neither were your actions in using Torso. If I had it my way, you'd be unable to play the game after that shit, the least I can do is try to keep you from dicking around in America, where you don't belong.

I don't know who to side with .... so I think I'll stay out for now. But leaving the area open for new players is a good idea, If everybody did wipe out all the NPC's early on then I wouldn't be here :S [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Is there ever going to be Natural Disasters and/or other random crap that happens? I'd think it'd be funny to check the turn and find out Canada's Prime Minister choked on a Fig Newton :v: .

[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35472113] Is there ever going to be Natural Disasters and/or other random crap that happens? I'd think it'd be funny to check the turn and find out Canada's Prime Minister choked on a Fig Newton :v: .[/QUOTE] Sobotnik originally included some things. Like, there was a big solar flare in reality that he included.

[QUOTE=Ruskie;35471889][IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Hemisferio_Norte.png[/IMG] [sp]BRB, Invading Canada as it's in my hemisphere.[/sp] :v:[/QUOTE] Uh nope. It isn't. You're in the Eastern Hemisphere. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Hemisphere[/url] Canada is in the Western Hemisphere [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere[/url] [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Face;35471480]Of course Seed sides with you, he's all for expansion. The way I see it, you're exacting revenge on nothing, that NPC nation could be used as a slot for newcomers but everybody on this thread regards NPC nations are worthless. That's the majority of the reason I'd like to see the US stand. I suppose due to the unpopularity of any kind of involvement elsewhere I will back down for now. But I do have to ask that you please leave the slot open for others.[/QUOTE] You keep forgetting about the Confederate nations. I'm actually making MORE npc nations by removing one. 9 additional nations plus the current ones. All of the Confederate Nations are open for player selection as long as they continue the Confederate Alliance with myself and the other Confederacies. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35471984']Since when? Did I take that position before or after I continuously bitch about people invading NPC nations and being expansionist? You cheated, Canada lost because of it. There's a legitimate reason behind it. You aren't involved in America and Germany has no reason to be. [I]Your[/I] reasoning for being involved is not, and neither were your actions in using Torso. If I had it my way, you'd be unable to play the game after that shit, the least I can do is try to keep you from dicking around in America, where you don't belong.[/QUOTE] Thank you. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35472113]I don't know who to side with .... so I think I'll stay out for now. But leaving the area open for new players is a good idea, If everybody did wipe out all the NPC's early on then I wouldn't be here :S [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Is there ever going to be Natural Disasters and/or other random crap that happens? I'd think it'd be funny to check the turn and find out Canada's Prime Minister choked on a Fig Newton :v: .[/QUOTE] I doubt that would happen. The Prime Minister always keeps a jug of Maple Syrup nearby. It's an amazing lubricant. :q: So just chug that and cough like a bitch. Should work :v:

Who the fuck would want to be a single state? I'm simply asking that you leave the original US before the unification of the states alone. That allows somebody to take a nation that isn't the size of a German region. All I ask is that you don't extend past the Mason Dixon with your "revenge". [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Also, I'm betting that those states would be available for three turns [I]tops[/I] because I [B][I]KNOW[/I][/B] that you've been trying to absorb the Confederate states into Canada. Your point is moot that there would be more NPCs to choose from.

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35472560]Uh nope. It isn't. [/QUOTE] It's called the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere]Northern Hemisphere[/url], look it up. [sp]Better keep your door locked boy[/sp]

[QUOTE=Ruskie;35472809]It's called the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Hemisphere]Northern Hemisphere[/url], look it up. [sp]Better keep your door locked boy[/sp][/QUOTE] Northern and Southern hemispheres are only used to distinguish between the North-South border for states. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Face;35472748]Who the fuck would want to be a single state? I'm simply asking that you leave the original US before the unification of the states alone. That allows somebody to take a nation that isn't the size of a German region. All I ask is that you don't extend past the Mason Dixon with your "revenge". [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Also, I'm betting that those states would be available for three turns [I]tops[/I] because I [B][I]KNOW[/I][/B] that you've been trying to absorb the Confederate states into Canada. Your point is moot that there would be more NPCs to choose from.[/QUOTE] Uhhh Let's see what's wrong with this 1) I would look the other way if a player took a Confederate state and tried to peacefully unite the Confederate states under one banner 2) You've asked. Now please STOP asking. I will consider it but don't hold your breath 3) Actually no. I tried once or twice with you and then stopped. I realised they were more valuable as individual states and allies than as territory. I do not plan on attempting to assimilate any of the Confederate States once Liberation occurs. That's even more flawed really if I wanted to absorb them why would I even liberate them?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35473018]Northern and Southern hemispheres are only used to distinguish between the North-South border for states.[/QUOTE] Wrong.

No, not wrong. It's part of International Theory. The Northern and Southern Hemispheres are generally used to distinguish states along the North-South line in terms of development. I've been studying it in my International Relations class this semester.

And why can't he use them, even if it's only for poverty separation?

Because then it invalidates my argument and puts Face in the same hemisphere as me which is wrong. The biggest hemispheric separation has ALWAYS been East/West. North/South is hardly ever used.

Well, your argument was pretty crappy from the start. Why should an arbitrary line dictate who can or cannot interact with you?

This is probably the most pointless war I've ever seen, Ven even directly said it was for revenge.

What about the french war? :v:

[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35474063]This is probably the most pointless war I've ever seen, Ven even directly said it was for revenge.[/QUOTE] It's PARTIALLY for revenge. Fuck do you even pay attention to anything I say? I'm liberating former allies that you invaded and you fucked me over while playing two nations at once. So fuck you and your goddamn 'this is a bullshit war'. You know what was bullshit? You making an alt and taking control of America to fuck me. THAT was bullshit. [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=MountainWatcher;35473942]Well, your argument was pretty crappy from the start. Why should an arbitrary line dictate who can or cannot interact with you?[/QUOTE] It's not crappy. He has NO place in the Americas so why the fuck should he be dicking around in my politics and what goes on here? Do I dick around in Europe? No. Did I do anything when you and Seed were being dipshits over France? No. I leave you fuckers alone. And you know what? [i]I expect the goddamn same in return. [/i]

What's sad is that this is more or less real-world diplomacy.

Yeah now I know how the Middle Eastern countries feel. "Hi! We're America [East Germany]! We're here to 'help'" 'No please go away I don't want you here' "TOO BAD. Huh this looks fucked up LET'S FIX IT" 'No no that's supposed to be like that it's part of our cult- fucks sake.' "No worries Afghanistan [Canada], we'll bill you for it! Say 'Thanks America [East Germany] little kids!" [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] And then they fight back to make them go away and are labelled terrorists.

So... how bout them Bruins? But seriously, wtf is the turn?

[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35473527]Because then it invalidates my argument and puts Face in the same hemisphere as me which is wrong. The biggest hemispheric separation has ALWAYS been East/West. North/South is hardly ever used.[/QUOTE] Until now. :D [editline]7th April 2012[/editline] Wait what? Turn is already bieng posted? SHIIIIIIIT

What the hell're you guys on about? Seed JUST did the map and it still isn't 100%. Also AFAIK Brazil's shit isn't in the turn yet

SHUT UP VEN. Must you argue about every single thing that ever appears in a thread?