Empires and revolutions - Historical Forum RP V2: Blame Brazil for all our problems.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35478100]Void. :v:
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Regardless, I wish to take up as my former nation for sentimental value. Kriegs hasn't been East Germany for too long, therefore it won't impact him. I know exactly how to run East Germany as I know what the civilians like and what they dislike.[/QUOTE]
I know what they like, They like Kriegs. I know what they Dislike, and that is Face. :v:
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[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478261']There would need to be some, uh, interventions if massacres are necessary, friend.[/QUOTE]
No thanks, the people are fine, really. Im sure just a few(Million) executions will take place .. nothing big
[i]Maple Syrup for motherfucking everyone[/i]
If by massacre you mean civil war then I doubt Communism won't survive without a bitter and bloody fight. Face even said the Austrians wouldn't take the transition to a Communist approach so lightly.
[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35478329]If by massacre you mean civil war then I doubt Communism won't survive without a bitter and bloody fight. Face even said the Austrians wouldn't take the transition to a Communist approach so lightly.[/QUOTE]
If it was a civil war, then I'd support the communists as long as they promised a free Balkans. If it's legit massacres, then I'm doing the opposite.
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[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478268]
... So your communist (Right? I am right about this? ... Right?) Yet you dont like massacres? OR secret police? Or beheading's torture etc etc .... Your a sad sad sad type of communism. :v:[/QUOTE]
I am a communist. The only thing out of those I have is a secret police. I'm the good type of communist. There have been some massacres, but never by my authority and punishment has been handed out, except in the case of an incident in France that I brushed under the rug.
You wouldn't be helping anyone, especially not communism, by being a stalinist.
HEY THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING UP SWEDISH WAR CRIMES IN FRANCE THAT WERE NEVER DEALT WITH, HAH, HA!
As the official RotNC report says, it was a "tactical retreat".
[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35478329]If by massacre you mean civil war then I doubt Communism won't survive without a bitter and bloody fight. Face even said the Austrians wouldn't take the transition to a Communist approach so lightly.[/QUOTE]
Which is why they would be massacred (for disobeying Kriegs). They dont like my type of Communism Then I can ship them (By Casket) to WG. But hey I just came up with a better idea. LETS GO FASCIST EVERYBODY!
I don't think they would like Fascism either. So in the end, there would still be some unrest and potentially a civil war anyways.
[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478420]LETS GO FASCIST EVERYBODY![/QUOTE]
why yer jus askin fer it, ya snot nose brat, ya
Oh god not Fascism. It's a bit early for Adolf.
You know what I'm wondering? Why did nobody mention the Swiss government change that Seed forced?
The Swiss were capitalist for a reason, they don't like communism.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35478463]Oh god not Fascism. It's a bit early for Adolf.[/QUOTE]
keine seiner nie zu spät zu sein Faschist. Schraube Hitler, Ihr alle habt Kriegs
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[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35478469]You know what I'm wondering? Why did nobody mention the Swiss government change that Seed forced?
The Swiss were capitalist for a reason, they don't like communism.[/QUOTE]
GO TO SLEEP FACE
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35478463]Oh god not Fascism. It's a bit early for Adolf.[/QUOTE]Correction; you mean Mussolini, not Hitler.
[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35478501]Correction; you mean Mussolini, not Hitler.[/QUOTE]
But were talking about Austria ... not Italy
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Also a side note, IF I do take Austria [U]IT WILL[/U] be named [B]PDCROK[/B] Communist or not. (Most likely will stay capitalist)
I didn't mention it because I don't give a shit.
Unlike a certain someone I could name, I don't feel the need to meddle in other people's politics. Especially those of people across a fucking ocean.
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[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478506]Also a side note, IF I do take Austria [U]IT WILL[/U] be named [B]PDCROK[/B] Communist or not. (Most likely will stay capitalist)[/QUOTE]
People's Democratic Crack Rock and Opiate Killaz?
[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35478469]You know what I'm wondering? Why did nobody mention the Swiss government change that Seed forced?
The Swiss were capitalist for a reason, they don't like communism.[/QUOTE]
Swissman of Communism:
-I make what I produce! No upper limit to my earnings! Bye bye, wages!
-Me and my fellow workers democratically run our own companies!
-I am a part owner in the industry I use!
-WOW! I have almost 100 government-enforced rights!
-But what's cool is that I can still decide to voluntarily work under an employer if I want!
-And I can even employ!
-My local government has more power than my federal government!
-It's cool that I have the protection of the German Volunteer People's Army!
-I'll never go hungry as long as I do my part! I'm guaranteed a job or welfare!
Swssman of Capitalism:
-It makes sense to me to force everyone to work under an employer!
-Golly, I sure love giving up my say in my workplace!
-Jeez, ain't that just the coolest thing! My employer owns all the machinery!
-Wowzers, I have almost 10 rights!
-Man, that federal government sure is mean! I like that! I'm a masochist!
-What little safety net I have is weak, but that's okay! I still have a job. Wait, oh, nevermind.
-How come all my representatives are richer than me?
-My country is weak...and the threat of violence is always there from the rising Fascist menace....
-All the profits go to my employer, and I do all the work. I'm limited to an hourly wage. That's not fair...
-Maybe this capitalism thing isn't so cool...
MAKES SENSE THAT THEY CHOSE THE LATTER, RIGHT?
There's no way in hell they legitimately did that. Government was hijacked. The exploiters exploited.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35478538]I didn't mention it because I don't give a shit.
Unlike a certain someone I could name, I don't feel the need to meddle in other people's politics. Especially those of people across a fucking ocean.
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People's Democratic Crack Rock and Opiate Killaz?[/QUOTE]
NIEN! Peoples Democratic Communist (Communist or Capitalist or Corrupt? Still deciding) Republic Of Kriegs.
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[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478569']Swissman of Communism:
-I make what I produce! No upper limit to my earnings! Bye bye, wages!
-Me and my fellow workers democratically run our own companies!
-I am a part owner in the industry I use!
-WOW! I have almost 100 government-enforced rights!
-But what's cool is that I can still decide to voluntarily work under an employer if I want!
-And I can even employ!
-My local government has more power than my federal government!
-It's cool that I have the protection of the German Volunteer People's Army!
-I'll never go hungry as long as I do my part! I'm guaranteed a job or welfare!
Swssman of Capitalism:
-It makes sense to me to force everyone to work under an employer!
-Golly, I sure love giving up my say in my workplace!
-Jeez, ain't that just the coolest thing! My employer owns all the machinery!
-Wowzers, I have almost 10 rights!
-Man, that federal government sure is mean! I like that! I'm a masochist!
-What little safety net I have is weak, but that's okay! I still have a job. Wait, oh, nevermind.
-How come all my representatives are richer than me?
-My country is weak...and the threat of violence is always there from the rising Fascist menace....
-All the profits go to my employer, and I do all the work. I'm limited to an hourly wage. That's not fair...
-Maybe this capitalism thing isn't so cool...
MAKES SENSE THAT THEY CHOSE THE LATTER, RIGHT?
There's no way in hell they legitimately did that. Government was hijacked. The exploiters exploited.[/QUOTE]
You said you were going to leave the Swiss alone. Im ... Dissapointed.
[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478580]
You said you were going to leave the Swiss alone. Im ... Dissapointed.[/QUOTE]
No I didn't? We talked about this and you said you were okay with a regime change, as long as I didn't invade. I didn't invade, and there was a regime change. Tah dah. The only difference is that now I'm considering, heavily, in acting in a Swedish-style confederacy of states between me and Switzerland.
[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478506]But were talking about Austria ... not Italy
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Also a side note, IF I do take Austria [U]IT WILL[/U] be named [B]PDCROK[/B] Communist or not. (Most likely will stay capitalist)[/QUOTE]Nevertheless the Fascist ideology started with Mussolini. It would only make sense if it started to surface historically as it did in the 1900s'.
Then again the RP's world history is so twisted at this point that I doubt Hitler and Mussolini will ever exist, which in return the ideas of Nazism and Fascism will never be born.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478606']No I didn't? We talked about this and you said you were okay with a regime change, as long as I didn't invade. I didn't invade, and there was a regime change. Tah dah. The only difference is that now I'm considering, heavily, in acting in a Swedish-style confederacy of states between me and Switzerland.[/QUOTE]
At first I was fine with a regime change yes. But then I talked it over with a few others and said no.
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[QUOTE=kamikaze470;35478616]Nevertheless the ideas of Fascism started with Mussolini. It would only make sense if it started to surface historically as it did in the 1900s'.
Then again the RP's world history is so twisted at this point that I doubt Hitler and Mussolini will ever exist, which in return the ideas of Nazism and Fascism will never be born.[/QUOTE]
Fascism is here. Nazism is not. East Germany has (Or Had) a very large Fascist problem, Until I took care of it.
[QUOTE=KriegsMar1ne;35478618]At first I was fine with a regime change yes. But then I talked it over with a few others and said no.[/QUOTE]
I never got a "no" from you. When it deals with the actions of another nation, you really need to let that nation know about it. I announced my intentions beforehand, and even said that I didn't plan on keeping them under my oversight, to which you replied. So you knew about it and haven't raised an issue until now.
Oh god I wish I could unrate.
Disregard that dumb rating Seed, I meant to hit reply.
Also, I wish I could copy paste what I just sent to Seed by PM but I didn't save the message elsewhere.
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Also, you're dictating foreign affairs by forcing a regime change in Switzerland. You may believe that Communism is the correct course to take but the Swiss don't. Perhaps if you saw it from their point of view (the Swiss were demolished in war and their economy left in shambles) you would understand their apprehension to be communist again.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478638']I never got a "no" from you. When it deals with the actions of another nation, you really need to let that nation know about it. I announced my intentions beforehand, and even said that I didn't plan on keeping them under my oversight, to which you replied. So you knew about it and haven't raised an issue until now.[/QUOTE]
Your right, I need to be stricter with my responses. For now on its a NO to all of you :v:
"Kriegs you want 100 tons of Syrup for Free?" "NO"
In other news Wikipedia has a sense of humor.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UMD4N.jpg[/IMG]
Here.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater]'][QUOTE=Mr. Face]
The Swiss failed massively with Communism in game, mainly because of being pushed around by the USSR and West Germany. Let me put it this way. Say Switzerland is a person. He went to a restaurant and tried a new dish. He took a bite and discovered he didn't like it so he never got that dish again. Perhaps if he tried a different restaurant with the same dish it would have been different but as it stands he dislikes that dish and wants to try a different one. Now, he went back to that restaurant and ordered a different dish that he was looking forward to trying. The waiter comes out with the dish he had before and force fed that dish to Mr. Swiss.
How would you like to be force fed something that you didn't like the first time around?[/QUOTE]
That's not the case. They were under German communism before. they had the good stuff, and they illogically decided they wanted the not-as-good. I can understand the distaste a bit because of the history, but I made it very, VERY clear during my counter-invasion into Swissland and Italy, as in France, that I was NOT the previous regimes. The Swiss lived under my brand of communism for a turn, they would know the benefits. Plus, I fed and clothed their refugees. I kept things running. I even housed them in my nation. It makes no sense that they'd be like, "Yea, thanks Germany, we love this, and you've been awesome at winning us over, but we're going to give all of this up and go with sub-par capitalism. You saved us from our evil, cheddiciding government of similar but very different ideological persuasion, but we're going to lump you two together anyhow."[/QUOTE]
Our PM convos, from the relevant part.
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And you can unrate. Refresh page and hit another rating.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478713']Here.
Our PM convos, from the relevant part.
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And you can unrate. Refresh page and hit another rating.[/QUOTE]
Can I see the unrelevent part? Might be something interestin
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[QUOTE=Mr. Face;35478701]In other news Wikipedia has a sense of humor.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UMD4N.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I cant Fucking breath
Is there [i]anything[/i] we can say that won't set Seed off on an angry bitchfit
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about capitalism. Or Switzerland. Or France. Or Face. Or anything else.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35478746]Is there [i]anything[/i] we can say that won't set Seed off on an angry bitchfit
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about capitalism. Or Switzerland. Or France. Or Face. Or anything else.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
"Let's just let him have Switzerland."
I could care less if the Swiss had chosen to be Communist but they didn't, they chose to be Capitalist and you forced a regime change. You may think that they should want communism but that doesn't mean that they [I]do[/I] want communism.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35478754']Yes.
"Let's just let him have Switzerland."[/QUOTE]
In Occurance with my recent posting, The answer is NO
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Face is now East Germany and I am now Austria aka Peoples Democratic Capitalist Republic Of Kriegs
-snip because Gyazo has a limit-
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