This new heavy minigun is just what the heavy needed.
Good scouts will no longer be a problem. Good scouts generally listen for spin-ups and jump out at the right time, or flank, and it's easy to locate heavies with their loud spinups as well. (and Natascha didn't really do jack shit against good scouts)
Now scouts won't be able to rely on slow spin-up times or sound to determine when best to jump out at the heavy.
[QUOTE=G-Guy;30598039]This new heavy minigun is just what the heavy needed.
Good scouts will no longer be a problem. Good scouts generally listen for spin-ups and jump out at the right time, or flank, and it's easy to locate heavies with their loud spinups as well. (and Natascha didn't really do jack shit against good scouts)
Now scouts won't be able to rely on slow spin-up times or sound to determine when best to jump out at the heavy.[/QUOTE]
Scouts were always SOL against a Heavy pointed in their direction or spun-up, pick one. I think this pack will only encourage sneakier Heavy play, not necessarily nerf Scouts.
I'm liking that snub nose revolver
finally I can be ninja heavy with the GRU and silent minigun :v:
and hey, finally more Nzdjh's stuff got added.
congratulations bro
The new minigun spins faster, but shoots slower? I don't understant those stats at all
I do wonder if there's gonna be a soldier pack.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;30598111]The new minigun spins faster, but shoots slower? I don't understant those stats at all[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing the time it takes to start firing is 75% faster.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;30598111]The new minigun spins faster, but shoots slower? I don't understant those stats at all[/QUOTE]
You can start shooting faster, but you're less of a tank while shooting. It's a trade-off.
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:ninja:
I wonder how many melee weapons Demoman will get.
[QUOTE=Populus89;30598130]I do wonder if there's gonna be a soldier pack.[/QUOTE]
Garbage gear
From SPUF
[quote]Tomislav:
Silent, speedier rev up is completly worth the downfall. For comparison:
Minigun: 500-540 DPS CR, 50-300 DPS MR, 50-100 DPS LR
Tomislav: 400-432 DPS CR, 40-240 DPS MR, 40-80 DPS LR
(CR = Close Range, MR = Medium Range, LR = Long Range)
This means that the Tomislav will lose to Overhealed Soldiers and Heavies compared to the minigun, but will spin up faster and still do tons of damage against smaller classes.
The Family Business:
40% clip size could mean 8 or 9 bullets. (8.4 actually) That's worth the damage loss in terms of long-term damage, but not for the "burst" damage the regular shotgun will give you.
inb4 Sandvich beats everything
The Eviction Notice:
GRU and FoS beat this. I think everything beats this.
The Enforcer:
Biggest Change: You can now TWO SHOT 125 HP classes (72 damage per shot vs. 60 damage per shot) at CLOSE RANGE. No more annoying child Scouts ruining your suit. Still up in the air whether or not this affects the DR, if it doesn't, pure-upgrade.
The Big Earner:
30% cloak on kill is a bit more then a Small Ammo Box and a bit less then a Medium Ammo Box. (25% and 50% respectively). I wouldn't count that as great, considering that lowering yourself to 100 HP puts you into 1-shot range by stray Huntsman arrows, 1 Direct Hit, and 0.2 seconds under Minigun fire.
IW: Just find a small ammo pack. The 5% is negligible.
C+D: Stand still.
DR: I suppose it could help considering DR gives you a lot of damage blocking, which shrugs off 25 HP. [/quote]
Tomislav isn't as OP as you people think.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;30598111]The new minigun spins faster, but shoots slower? I don't understant those stats at all[/QUOTE]
the bullets take longer to shoot, since the minigun's front part seems to be smaller. so it's less bullets being shot.
It doesn't have a spinning barrel. It's not a minigun. So it's "spinup" time, where it gets ready to fire, which I assume being that it is silent it's actually just the Heavy aiming the rifle, is faster. However, it's actual firing speed is slower.
The shotgun is kind of pointless. But I hope the Tomislav gets a Mafia Tommy Gun like sound.
Soldier Dumpster Pack next
In relation to the spy's new rose.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLBo-aiBBd0[/media]
I wish we didn't get that leak back in April, it ruins part of the fun.
Check Tf2 Blog
Manly tears to the tune of
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39QwQrfpeYg&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=Gurkenpirat;30598180]The shotgun is kind of pointless. But I hope the Tomislav gets a Mafia Tommy Gun like sound.[/QUOTE]
We'll be lucky to get a kill icon.
Guys
guys
what if
what if they optimize the game this update
[QUOTE=HyperTails;30598190]Soldier Dumpster Pack next[/QUOTE]
Can someone post pictures of that pack? It isn't on the polycount entry list
[QUOTE=zach34;30598235]Guys
guys
what if
what if they optimize the game this update[/QUOTE]
You are the most optimistic person ever.
[QUOTE=mutated;30598069]Scouts were always SOL against a Heavy pointed in their direction or spun-up, pick one. I think this pack will only encourage sneakier Heavy play, not necessarily nerf Scouts.[/QUOTE]
Scouts can generally take down most [b]lone[/b] heavies as long as they can listen and time when to jump out and attack, or flank.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;30598250]Can someone post some pictures of that pack? It isn't on the polycount entry list[/QUOTE]
It's long so I won't img tag it.
[url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7534716/DumpsterPackPromo.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=PyroCraz3d;30598157]From SPUF
Tomislav isn't as OP as you people think.[/QUOTE]
It'll be 8 bullets since Valve rounds down when it comes to decimals for the Family Business.
Eviction: Faster swing speed, lower damage. 65-39 (60% damage loss) -> 26. With the added speed, it'd do around 52 or maybe 78, but that's pushing it. Not a good trade off from other fists, except GRU.
Enforcer: Definite upgrade. A half second increase to cloak isn't going to do shit.
Big Earner: Dead Ringer lure. Maybe help out the IW a bit. And the loss of HP isn't all that grand since you're vulnerable to just about anything that hits you.
I came
[QUOTE=leonthefox;30598250]Can someone post pictures of that pack? It isn't on the polycount entry list[/QUOTE]
[quote][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7534716/DumpsterPackPromo.jpg[/img][/quote]
god damn it late
I've never actually flanked a heavy by listening to them rev up. I just jump out from a corner, if there's a heavy there, I just shoot and strafe. In fact, nobody has EVER ambushed me when I was revved up. :confused:
Hopefully the kunai will get a buff with this update.
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