[QUOTE=IceStormV1;24474217]Most of these I agree with, but I gotta give a big 'FUCK NO' to making the slowdown based on class speed. Natasha was built specifically for killing Fast classes like the Scout and Medic.
As for the whole 'Pub Vs. Pro' debate. The Pros really need to see this from the Pub's side of things. All pubs see in pro games is the now infamous 'Medic, Demo, Double Solly, Double Scout' team. Where every other class (sans Sniper) is considered not good enough for pro play. Then they see the Heavy, one of the supposed bad classes, get a buff to make so that he counters a pro-class quite well, the scout. Then pub players see the pros ban weapons for said heavy just so they can back to having their precious scouts not have a reliable counter.
I'm not saying that all that I just posted in the second paragraph there is true, but that's what it sounds like, and that's what's pissing the pub players off and causing this backlash.[/QUOTE]
That is indeed a major issue, people commenting without knowing what's actually going on. That we only use Soldier/Scout/Demo/Medic is a myth, as I said earlier. Yet you try and explain that to the majority of people who think it's true. Most of them are dead set in the mindset that we only ever use those classes and flatout refuse to accept that we use them all when appropriate.
[QUOTE=pikzen;24485392]What you forget about comp is that a heavy is never ever alone. He always has a medic, a soldier, maybe a scout and potentially the demo. A slowed down soldier will instantly be vaporized if he meets the heavy.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps that's their issues for attacking the Heavy alone then.
Natasha runs out of ammo crazy fast, so just distract the Heavy long enough and he'll be forced to retreat.
[QUOTE=Simski;24486245]Perhaps that's their issues for attacking the Heavy alone then.
Natasha runs out of ammo crazy fast, so just distract the Heavy long enough and he'll be forced to retreat.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't happen. We keep a close eye on how much ammo we have left, and very rarely enter a fight long enough to run out of ammo.
Natascha isn't under- or over-powered, just really fucking annoying and was a horrible idea from the beginning.
How about they bring back Ludamila instead?
Primary fire: Standard minigun attack but with 45% less damage done.
Secondary Fire: 65% less damage done, On Hit: +2 health, 25% slower firing rate.
:v:?
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;24486024]That we only use Soldier/Scout/Demo/Medic is a myth, as I said earlier. [/QUOTE]
A myth that's hard to prove wrong when you have matches like, say, the i40 LAN Finals two days ago. Where both Epsilon and Dignitas went with '2Scout, 2Solly, Medic, Demo' for 95% of the match. (On a side note: Props to the one dude who actually went Spy for a few minutes)
Until Pyro, Heavy, and Engie see more regular use in Pro play. Having weapons banned from them is just really fucking hard to justify in the eyes of pub players.
[QUOTE=IceStormV1;24498888]A myth that's hard to prove wrong when you have matches like, say, the i40 LAN Finals two days ago. Where both Epsilon and Dignitas went with '2Scout, 2Solly, Medic, Demo' for 95% of the match. (On a side note: Props to the one dude who actually went Spy for a few minutes)
Until Pyro, Heavy, and Engie see more regular use in Pro play. Having weapons banned from them is just really fucking hard to justify in the eyes of pub players.[/QUOTE]
1 match isn't indicative of all matches. Yes they don't pop up all match every match, but they are certainly used. I was also quite surprised at the fact Sniper wasn't used.
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