[QUOTE=Inacio;24157573][I]GUIS MAH TEEM LOTS LATS COMPTETION SO I SAY TEH GAEM NO B BALANCDED[/I]
:downs:
Fucking retards.[/QUOTE]
Hi I'm a competitive gamer 6v6 is perfectly balanced Natascha&Wrangler are OP nerf plz :downs:
My only beef with competitive players is that they have no regard for people who only play the game for fun, like I assume most of us here do. I accept the fact that they don't play for fun, but I resent the fact that they're trying to change the game to suit their playstyle and theirs alone.
Im a pro player that lives in my parents house and never leave it because i dont have a life and dont play the game for fun.
/robinstartslistening
ITT: Expert tf2 facepunchers whine about natascha being nerfed because it's the only weapon they get kills with
Robin didn't even say anything about competitive community wanted to nerf natascha, he said general community complained about it, BUT the heavy is also still "useless" in 6v6 competitive play and he wanted to change that.
[QUOTE=GM0D;24158091]ITT: Expert tf2 facepunchers whine about natascha being nerfed because it's the only weapon they get kills with
Robin didn't even say anything about competitive community wanted to nerf natascha, he said general community complained about it, BUT the heavy is also still "useless" in 6v6 competitive play and he wanted to change that.[/QUOTE]
avatar fits
[QUOTE=GM0D;24158091]ITT: Expert tf2 facepunchers whine about natascha being nerfed because it's the only weapon they get kills with[/QUOTE]
ITT: I play Heavy Natascha all the time
Fuck the competetive players. We should send Robin a mail, or something, to stop listening to those tourneyfaggots.
A prime example: The Sandman. It was a fucking awesome weapon, something that could stop an uber. And now what is it? It can't stun über, if stunned you can run away, and scout has less Health.
Seriously, fuck you, the Sandman was my favourite weapon.
I don't mind Natasha, the only thing I want them to do is to nerf the Wrangler shield.
whenever comp players make a small change, FP TF2 Section goes through all the pub vs comp bullshit. when pub players makes changes, no one cries.
???
[QUOTE=GM0D;24158091]Robin didn't even say anything about competitive community wanted to nerf natascha, he said general community complained about it, BUT the heavy is also still "useless" in 6v6 competitive play and he wanted to change that.[/QUOTE]
Explain me why it's possible to get one of the highest scores with (Sacha) Heavy on Highlander servers.
[editline]06:36PM[/editline]
And seriously, Natascha was designed to be an "anti-cowards" weapon (The fact you are slowing down when hit). So...
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;24158013]My only beef with competitive players is that they have no regard for people who only play the game for fun, like I assume most of us here do. I accept the fact that they don't play for fun, but I resent the fact that they're trying to change the game to suit their playstyle and theirs alone.[/QUOTE]
Do you live in the 90's where every corporation is an evil polluting money-hogging one?
There's a grey area to comp players too. There's people who enjoy comp play but also play on pubs, and comp players usually have the right idea of what works because they've been playing for so long.
[editline]05:42PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=ZuXer;24158373]Fuck the competetive players. We should send Robin a mail, or something, to stop listening to those tourneyfaggots.
A prime example: The Sandman. It was a fucking awesome weapon, something that could stop an uber. And now what is it? It can't stun über, if stunned you can run away, and scout has less Health.
Seriously, fuck you, the Sandman was my favourite weapon.[/QUOTE]
If Valve only listened to the non-comp TF2 fans, Mariokart would be on vanilla server rotations, every gun would have a tribal skin on it and Sandman would give you minicrits in duration of stun.
Valve listens to comp players because they're more experienced with the gameplay mechanics and they're usually a more mature audience. If you picked from a froup of random TF2 players, there'd be a good chance most of them would be underage and not really fit for game design.
Wow.
The ignorance about competitive play in this thread is truly mind numbing.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;24152568]Why the hell does robin even listen to the competetive fagholes[/QUOTE]
And you wonder why competitive players get a bit annoyed at pubbers with comments spewing around like that?
For fuck's sake people, GET A CLUE.
Wow, seriously guys? Natascha with a medic is so OP it's ridiculous, if the only way you can get kills is by practically freezing someone in place and peppering them with bullets then you should try a different class.
[QUOTE=Noz;24159062]Wow, seriously guys? Natascha with a medic is so OP it's ridiculous, if the only way you can get kills is by practically freezing someone in place and peppering them with bullets then you should try a different class.[/QUOTE]
Even a Sacha Heavy + Medic is "op" if you are fighting alone (and if you're stupid enough to rush straight ahead).
What's your point now?
[QUOTE=ADT;24159162]Even a Sacha Heavy + Medic is "op" if you are fighting alone (and if you're stupid enough to rush straight ahead them).
What's your point now?[/QUOTE]
The point is that the slowdown even at range (because it doesn't fall off at range like the FAN's knockback, for instance) is ridiculous and completely unfun to fight against.
[QUOTE=Noz;24159062]Wow, seriously guys? Natascha with a medic is so OP it's ridiculous, if the only way you can get kills is by practically freezing someone in place and peppering them with bullets then you should try a different class.[/QUOTE]
It eats up ammo like a bitch though, so while you'll be able to kill like 6 enemies with Sasha before needing more ammo, you'll usually only kill 3 or 4 with Natasha before needing ammo.
[QUOTE=KarmaPolice;24159227]The point is that the slowdown even at range (because it doesn't fall off at range like the FAN's knockback, for instance) is ridiculous and completely unfun to fight against.[/QUOTE]
Again, you can't beat an Heavy + Medic without teamwork (Don't tell it's different on comp servers, I don't believe you). Spy and Sniper are the classes that can beat the shit out of the Heavy (Because he's too focused on his target).
[editline]06:58PM[/editline]
And any other classes that can sneak up of Heavy's watch.
Dangit, Someone give me robin walkers email, I need to tell him something...
[b]EDIT:[/b]
hey, cool, my first page king.
[QUOTE=Simski;24159245]It eats up ammo like a bitch though, so while you'll be able to kill like 6 enemies with Sasha before needing more ammo, you'll usually only kill 3 or 4 with Natasha before needing ammo.[/QUOTE]
Ammo isn't a problem, there are ammo boxes all over the map, dead people's weapon provides ammo, as well as dispensers. You'll only run out of ammo if you don't get new ammo.
[QUOTE=Simski;24159245]It eats up ammo like a bitch though, so while you'll be able to kill like 6 enemies with Sasha before needing more ammo, you'll usually only kill 3 or 4 with Natasha before needing ammo.[/QUOTE]
But ammo is even LESS of a problem, the enemy is almost as slow as you during slowdown, so it's not like their corpse is gonna be that far away.
[QUOTE=Kikka-2] Trading will arrive in next major update[/QUOTE]
Oh god yes :flashfap:
[QUOTE=iRunner;24160057]Oh god yes :flashfap:[/QUOTE]
we already knew that you maggot
why does that even excite you
fucking hat maggot
[QUOTE=NeoDement;24160294]we already knew that you maggot
why does that even excite you
fucking hat maggot[/QUOTE]
There he said [b]Next major update[/b]
:v:
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;24158013]My only beef with competitive players is that they have no regard for people who only play the game for fun, like I assume most of us here do. I accept the fact that they don't play for fun, but I resent the fact that they're trying to change the game to suit their playstyle and theirs alone.[/QUOTE]
Competitive players [I]do[/I] play for fun, they just enjoy a different way of playing
And they're not trying to change the game to make it only comp friendly. While there have been changes to make the game more comp friendly I haven't seen anything negative that can be proven is due to comp.
Golden wrench hats?
[highlight]GENIUS[/highlight]
[QUOTE=ZuXer;24158373]Fuck the competetive players. We should send Robin a mail, or something, to stop listening to those tourneyfaggots.
A prime example: The Sandman. It was a fucking awesome weapon, something that could stop an uber. And now what is it? It can't stun über, if stunned you can run away, and scout has less Health.
Seriously, fuck you, the Sandman was my favourite weapon.[/QUOTE]
I've never played any game competitively, but the original sandman was the fucking worst idea ever. Maybe it was fun for you if you play mostly scout, but it's in no way fun for the people on the other end. Completely shutting down ubers is way OP, no other weapon could or can do this. Besides it also removed one of the scout's primary and most useful abilities. FaN can replace doublejump, but you can't use it effectively in combat situations. Sandman is fine as it is right now.
ITT: Sandman is UP and doesn't need a buff
[QUOTE=NuckChorris;24160793]ITT: Sandman is UP and doesn't need a buff[/QUOTE]
Sandman isn't UP. You don't do diddlysquat with that 25 health, and stunning players near always gets them killed if they're fighting someone.
15 health*
And I'm a good Sandman user, well I [B]WAS[/B] until the nerf made me ragedelete it
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