Ripoff Trading Megathread v9-NOH MERCY - Games

[QUOTE=JimmyA;31137445]FXU is a dick, I don't give a fuck if he see's this, he's a grade A dick. Oh and have fun, he's a horrible admin. [code]Never tell your password to anyone. A r c h i m e d e s: you got reported over at source OP jweet seff: yeah i know jweet seff: im gonna talk to some UHC admins in a bit jweet seff: let em know what happened A r c h i m e d e s: Yeah jweet seff: Ill be off that list jweet seff: as well as everyone else A r c h i m e d e s: Thjey can't ban uss jweet seff: besides jweet seff: I NEVER play sourceop now A r c h i m e d e s: We don't even scam jweet seff: but I better get un fucking banned soon because I have a 300 dollar hat that i need to sell A r c h i m e d e s: They put everyone A r c h i m e d e s: but me on that list A r c h i m e d e s: I made a huge fucking profit A r c h i m e d e s: I admitted it A r c h i m e d e s: But if they add me A r c h i m e d e s: I can talk to admins A r c h i m e d e s: Because I offered the price of the guys fucking hat A r c h i m e d e s: he wanted the soldier & demo sword jweet seff: welp jweet seff: I think its time to make a new account A r c h i m e d e s: Talking to FXU right now jweet seff: wat jweet seff: FXU isnt even online A r c h i m e d e s: I'm getting this shit sorted out A r c h i m e d e s: Yes he is A r c h i m e d e s: Never tell your password to anyone. A r c h i m e d e s: Hey FXU A r c h i m e d e s: Some guy claimed a BUNCH of people were scammers fxu [reddit]: just read that A r c h i m e d e s: And alot of innocent people were added to the scammer list fxu [reddit]: are you in that list? A r c h i m e d e s: No A r c h i m e d e s: But I have friends who are A r c h i m e d e s: Who only lowballed A r c h i m e d e s: Mega is the only one who should be there A r c h i m e d e s: He admitted that he quickswitched an unusual fxu [reddit]: well the person who reported it is one of the main coders of steamrep fxu [reddit]: if he saw sufficient evidence, then he added them fxu [reddit]: tell your friends to appeal A r c h i m e d e s: There wasn't evidence fxu [reddit]: if there's no evidence A r c h i m e d e s: We had screenshots fxu [reddit]: they'll be taken off A r c h i m e d e s: That we traded items for another itme A r c h i m e d e s: http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1106693-Ripoff-Trading-Megathread-v9-NOH-MERCY A r c h i m e d e s: Pictures of our trades A r c h i m e d e s: This is an example A r c h i m e d e s: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/307/54074061.png A r c h i m e d e s: Its not scamming A r c h i m e d e s: SourceOP has a thread doing the same deal jweet seff: wow jweet seff: FXU is laughing in my fucking face A r c h i m e d e s: Why? jweet seff: because he actually thinks Im a scammer A r c h i m e d e s: AHAHAH A r c h i m e d e s: Where did he say that? jweet seff: Just because ONE instance of trying to get a hat back to some guy because the guy that ripped him was a genuine scammer MAKES ME A FUCKING HYPOCRITE jweet seff: jweet seff: Hey jweet seff: I tihnk you know what Im about to say already jweet seff: but uh jweet seff: do you know where I can appeal> jweet seff: ? fxu [reddit]: are you on that list? jweet seff: Yes I am jweet seff: and IMO its total bullshit fxu [reddit]: hahahahahahahaha jweet seff: Even SOP has the SAME FUCKIN THREAD jweet seff: Just diff title jweet seff: And your laughing at me.... fxu [reddit]: cus it's fucking hilarious jweet seff: yeah not from my point of view jweet seff: because now trading is fucked for me fxu [reddit]: you were claiming for a guy to help him get his hat back for getting ripped-off jweet seff: even though I have never done a scam fxu [reddit]: and you rip off people everyday jweet seff: because the fuckign dude scams people and blocked the guy when he ripped him fxu [reddit]: go appeal to datastorm or butane jweet seff: when he wanted his hat back fxu [reddit]: ONCE he found out the real price of his stuff jweet seff: No because he liked the damn hat and regretted the trade jweet seff: I fucking talked to the guy fxu [reddit]: I wonder if you would trade back with every single person you ripped off jweet seff: If they liked the fucking trade then what the fucks the problem? jweet seff: If I could give back their shit right fucking now I probably would jweet seff: But I dont add everyone I fucking trade A r c h i m e d e s: Report him to the UHC main admins A r c h i m e d e s: Mind if I post that chatlog? jweet seff: Yes jweet seff: Do not post it A r c h i m e d e s: Please A r c h i m e d e s: Fine A r c h i m e d e s: Can I mention it too fxu? jweet seff: Dude no A r c h i m e d e s: Can I tell caturday yet? jweet seff: No jweet seff: actuall jweet seff: yes jweet seff: do it jweet seff: but tell him not to post it in public jweet seff: the last thing I want is to be shat on by an admin because he got defamed in public for actually thinking Im a scamme jweet seff: talking to diego A r c h i m e d e s: Main UHC/SOP admin? jweet seff: yeah steam rep admins A r c h i m e d e s: I want to post that chatlog A r c h i m e d e s: REALLY BAD jweet seff: Do it jweet seff: I dont care anymore [/code][/QUOTE] I don't understand why these people can't get that it's not SCAMMING. IT'S GETTING. LUCKY. TRADES. Yes, we're not the BEST people in TF2 trading, but we aren't STEALING.

[QUOTE=Owner3;31137527]You guys take things way too seriously. TF2 was so much better off before it had hats and trading.[/QUOTE] You realize we're dealing with real life money, right? I don't know about you but I take hundreds of dollars seriously.

So I made an infographic. [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/infographic2.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Eeshton;31137542]You realize we're dealing with real life money, right? I don't know about you but I take hundreds of dollars seriously.[/QUOTE] Great, people play TF2 to trade and make real-life money now. That sure is the point of a video game. I'm not in the mood for an argument, or derailing this thread again (sorry I even did so in the first place), so whatever inevitably angry person responds to this post, enjoy the satisfaction of knowing I won't respond.

Somebody teach me how to rip someone off of Unusuals for 3 hats. I've tried every way in the book, on people of all ages, and people who have no idea what their Unusuals are worth.

I don't check the thread for an hour and now I'm marked as a SourceOP scammer. Well this is great.

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[QUOTE=Flicky;31137622]Somebody teach me how to scam someone out of Unusuals for 3 hats. I've tried every way in the book, on people of all ages, and people who have no idea what their Unusuals are worth.[/QUOTE] you're not helping

How do I know the person that reported us is Omega... Is anybody able to check that?

[QUOTE=Owner3;31137595]Great, people play TF2 to trade and make real-life money now. That sure is the point of a video game. I'm not in the mood for an argument, or derailing this thread again (sorry I even did so in the first place), so whatever inevitably angry person responds to this post, enjoy the satisfaction of knowing I won't respond.[/QUOTE] You act like people who scam NEVER play the game, and aren't in fact taking advantage of the large new player database. If I can make 100s of dollars from a virtual item, by giving some guy who owns this virtual item, a less valueable virtual item in the eyes of the general community, I'm all of a sudden taking the game to seriously? Shut up, and stop creating drama.

[QUOTE=Stormer77;31137647]Nobody is scamming anyone. Except omega.[/QUOTE] Fuck, did I really say Scam? I meant rip off. Dammit, I can't believe I said scam.

[QUOTE=Flicky;31137684]Fuck, did I really say Scam? I meant rip off. Dammit, I can't believe I said scam.[/QUOTE] I forgive you.

[QUOTE=Dreadknoght;31137677]How do I know the person that reported us is Omega... Is anybody able to check that?[/QUOTE]It wasn't, it was some dick who is a coder over at SteamRep.

[QUOTE=Stormer77;31137647]Nobody is scamming anyone. Except omega.[/QUOTE] It's the worst time to call names now you know

[QUOTE=JimmyA;31137746]It wasn't, it was some dick who is a coder over at SteamRep.[/QUOTE] BUT. He could have been tipped off....

We all got wrongly ratted out. I'm gonna go cry now :gonk:

I come back and see this thread, with 100+ new posts in like an hour, Many, MANY people being reported as scammers and other drama I thought we agreed there wasn't going to be a new thread? I mean seriously, after all the drama from the last thread it would seem to be common sense to close it. [img]http://fspaz.x10.mx/fileshare/images/cocmc.png[/img] "Rip-off" in this thread is used in the sense of No. 4, where people are exploiting a players (lack of) knowledge about the pricing of hats. Even then, the pricing of hat's are only a community guideline. [b]Hat's are worth whatever the person feels they are worth[/b], and obviously the newer players would price a hat less than a weapon, just as you guys would price a weapon less than a hat. [img]http://fspaz.x10.mx/fileshare/images/aoshb.png[/img] Take a look at the verb meaning of scam. Most ripoff trades have not had any trickery used. There have been some occasions where they have, but those were frowed upon. The guy who did the quickswitch 'tricked' the player into thinking he was getting something other than what he actually got. Most of the people on that list don't deserve to be.

I doubt some random coder happens to walk over here at the exact second a REAL SCAMMER CAME!

Besides making people reject to go buy stuff for money/games from me what does beign labeled as a scammer do?

Trying to talk to Diego right now.

We are exploiting the F2P and noobs by the mean of Appeal to Ignorance. So it is Ripping off.

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;31137831]Besides making people reject to go buy stuff for money/games from me what does beign labeled as a scammer do?[/QUOTE]Labels you/bans you in sourceOP and UHC servers

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;31137831]Besides making people reject to go buy stuff for money/games from me what does beign labeled as a scammer do?[/QUOTE] Besides that? I think admins on servers takes the scammer list & puts you on there ban list. I might be wrong though.

[QUOTE=Nukefuzz;31137847]We are exploiting the F2P and noobs by the mean of Appeal to Ignorance. So it is Ripping off.[/QUOTE]F2P players can't trade

[QUOTE=Dreadknoght;31137807]I doubt some random coder happens to walk over here at the exact second a REAL SCAMMER CAME![/QUOTE] I think it's a fluke. Maybe some sort of extreme scare tactics. I mean, as long as each party is legitimately happy with their offer, it's a good offer. How did they determine what was a scam before the economy formed in TF2? They based it off of the average personal ideas of the items, right? Well, if the people who were late to the party want a fucking bill's for their max's head, that's their own damn choice. That doesn't mean we should be labeled as scammers. I was always a nice guy. I asked for what THEY wanted. Not put an item in their face and say "Here you go, faggot". No, I asked what they were looking for. This is bullshit

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;31137831]Besides making people reject to go buy stuff for money/games from me what does beign labeled as a scammer do?[/QUOTE] You basically just get shit for being a scammer when you trade people. Like if you wanted to trade an unusual for $$$$$$ the person wouldn't do it since you're labeled as a scammer. And you're just generally hated.

[QUOTE=Dreadknoght;31137677]How do I know the person that reported us is Omega... Is anybody able to check that?[/QUOTE] Why would he report himself as a scammer? Wait a minute... THIS PLAN IS BULLETPROOF!

[QUOTE=goluffy;31137871]Why would he report himself as a scammer? Wait a minute... THIS PLAN IS BULLETPROOF![/QUOTE] Someone reported him, so he must have went to them and been like "BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TOOOO~"

If the reporters life had a face, I would punch it. I mean seriously? What does he get out of this?

[QUOTE=goluffy;31137871]Why would he report himself as a scammer? Wait a minute... THIS PLAN IS BULLETPROOF![/QUOTE] Uber heavy plan all up in dis bitch.