[QUOTE=Babycakes1377;19940638]Fact of the matter is that it needs a lot of work. Based on your attitude you seem to have posted this expecting praise and dick sucking. Rating everyone dumb in the thread who is critical of your map isn't going to make your map any less shitty, you need to go back and give it some more work. You need to realize that your work will be criticized especially when posted in a public forum and the best thing you can do is to learn from it.[/QUOTE]
It's a big mistake of most first-time creators: Post stupid shit, wait for awesome criticism and dick-sucking, get insultive crticism, yell and scream that people didn't even try it.
Ok guys, you've been pissing me off for long enough, so it pleases me to finally say that v3 is now ready.
This will be the final version(s).
:)
I will be posting the pack soon.
Changes:
more deeper trenches
multiple game modes (CTF, CP, ARENA, KOTH)
more obstacles
easier on every class (yes, every class)
I actually want to thank you guys. Your input helped a lot in perfecting the map(s).
[editline]06:08PM[/editline]
Here is the link:
[url]http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/124727[/url]
Wow, that is extremely better, I worship you know. That is the best map in the world.....!!1
No, you don't get the idea, DO NOT POST YOUR FUCKING MAP UNTIL YOU TAKE THE CRITICISM.
It is your first map using displacements? Considering the fact that the map is all about trenches which are displacements, it the exact same thing as your first map!
DON'T FUCKING POST IT UNTIL YOU GET BETTER.
The new one is an improvement on the old, I will admit, but it's still a bad map.
I'm sorry for being harsh, but it is true.
I am obligated to tell you nice try because my first displacement map was terrible and you have some good potential.
[B]EDIT:[/B]
I just played it a second time and it's a lot more balanced. But my point still stands.
Trenches aren't supposed to look like dirt roads, for your information.
Surely you could at least put the caps in bloc houses (I think that's what they're called, you know, the ones that hold machine guns in them. Or troops. Like in RUSE Beta for any of you who played. Anyway, I Digress) to stop them from being so sniper friendly.
Of course you could just add the prefix sn_ and then you'd cut the complaining.
The displacements are blocky too (Look at one of the pictures, its edge is almost as sharp as a bloody knife), and the players on the points can be sniped. Before you go "Ohh no you can't comment you haven't played", I can tell from the screenshots you posted. [URL=http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/screens/124727?img=http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/124726a.jpg]Here[/URL] and [URL=http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/screens/124727?img=http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/124726a.jpg]Here[/Url] (there is no fence covering redspawn to first cap, insta-snipe, anyone?)
Where's Ziron and his reviewing prowess when you need him
The map seems balanced, but a bit plain. The problem is that map is basically "TRENCHES DERP".
[QUOTE=KingKombat;19944087]The map seems balanced, but a bit plain. The problem is that map is basically "TRENCHES DERP".[/QUOTE]
lol
[editline]07:15PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=AshtonArdoin;19943698]Wow, that is extremely better, I worship you know. That is the best map in the world.....!!1
No, you don't get the idea, DO NOT POST YOUR FUCKING MAP UNTIL YOU TAKE THE CRITICISM.
It is your first map using displacements? Considering the fact that the map is all about trenches which are displacements, it the exact same thing as your first map!
DON'T FUCKING POST IT UNTIL YOU GET BETTER.
The new one is an improvement on the old, I will admit, but it's still a bad map.
I'm sorry for being harsh, but it is true.
I am obligated to tell you nice try because my first displacement map was terrible and you have some good potential.
[B]EDIT:[/B]
I just played it a second time and it's a lot more balanced. But my point still stands.[/QUOTE]
alright alright I get that it's too plain, but I still think it's a good enough map to be played on servers. Thanks.
[editline]07:17PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Roflking;19943966]Surely you could at least put the caps in bloc houses (I think that's what they're called, you know, the ones that hold machine guns in them. Or troops. Like in RUSE Beta for any of you who played. Anyway, I Digress) to stop them from being so sniper friendly.
Of course you could just add the prefix sn_ and then you'd cut the complaining.
The displacements are blocky too (Look at one of the pictures, its edge is almost as sharp as a bloody knife), and the players on the points can be sniped. Before you go "Ohh no you can't comment you haven't played", I can tell from the screenshots you posted. [URL=http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/screens/124727?img=http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/124726a.jpg]Here[/URL] and [URL=http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/screens/124727?img=http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/124726a.jpg]Here[/Url] (there is no fence covering redspawn to first cap, insta-snipe, anyone?)[/QUOTE]
Sheesh angry... I get it, i get it, it's a crappy map pack, okay? Fucking hate you all...do you realize that the only time anyone's ever really gave me any good input on this is when they felt sorry for me and my lack of mapping abilities...
[editline]07:20PM[/editline]
...oh my god... wait a sec.
[editline]07:21PM[/editline]
This is the original. No one seemed to catch onto that fact:
[url]http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/120451[/url]
Now do you understand? I actually have got a long way from where I started...
You can make it SO MUCH BETTER for midway cover.
[editline]07:22PM[/editline]
LIKE l DONT KNOW A TRUCK?
[editline]07:23PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=raubana;19944521]
This is the original. No one seemed to catch onto that fact:
[url]http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/120451[/url][/QUOTE]
That is actually a better representation of Trench warfare.
The current version is like a dry riverbed.
[QUOTE=xpod1;19944679]You can make it SO MUCH BETTER for midway cover.
[editline]07:22PM[/editline]
LIKE l DONT KNOW A TRUCK?
[editline]07:23PM[/editline]
That is actually a better representation of Trench warfare.
The current version is like a dry riverbed.[/QUOTE]
STFU! People hated that map! They said it was way too blocky and I'd get no where with it, so i went with the displacement maps!
That's worse
[editline]07:27PM[/editline]
[quote]Make me a fullbright map whever everything is made out of displacements.
[/quote]
Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...
[QUOTE=raubana;19944811]Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...[/QUOTE]
How could anyone be pleased by a shit map?
[QUOTE=raubana;19944811]Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...[/QUOTE]
do you think The epic people of Valve got where they are today by giving up? NO! NOW YOU GET BACK TO WORK AND SHOW US JUST HOW EPIC YOU CAN BE AT MAPPING YOU MAGGOT!
[QUOTE=DrTirD;19945171][img]http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/maps/124726c.jpg[/img]
Deeper trenches.. amazing[/QUOTE]
Trench was dug, Too deep.
[QUOTE=raubana;19944811]Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...[/QUOTE]
Giving up will get you nowhere. If people are not pleased, you try to make better stuff. If they still are not pleased, get better. Getting good takes some time, but it is rewarding
Trench slopes should be steeper, and maybe add some tunnels going to other trenches.
[QUOTE=raubana;19944811]Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...[/QUOTE]
Dude you put up no fences in the respawn room so anyone can spawn camp. Your displacements are pointy and sharp. It will work better if you put water in the trenches because it looks like crap without water.
This map is honestly really shitty, like everyone else is saying. There's a [i]lot[/i] to improve. These are generally all listed in order of importance, with the top being the most important. Don't get me wrong, they're all important, the lower ones are just less "most important".
[list]Enclose the spawns, probably with a bunker. Leaving them open as is allows and might even encourage spawn camping. Also include resupply cabinets so people can run back to safety and resupply, as well as re-equip if they so please.
[*]Make the trenches more realistic. They tend to have much steeper slopes. One picture that I remember well was that the trench had wooden walls installed to keep the dirt from falling in, and it was deep enough that one could walk in it without fear of being shot. To get up to ground level, one would climb, and I'd assume there would be stairs or ramps or something. There was also a step that one could sit on, or stand on and shoot over the top. See if you can do this.
[*]Create a more intricate series of trenches. Don't just have a few paths that all connect to each other - add some dead ends and the like. You might have to make the map larger to do this. Also try to keep from doing perfect angles, have them snake around. If you have to, just doodle in paint or photoshop or something. Lay them out on (digital) paper, then map them.
[*]Create underground tunnels and bunkers. Things that make it less bland. Bunkers could allow people to be above trench level, but below ground level and still fight, and with moderate protection from snipers.
[*]Add cover above the trenches to make no man's land a viable way to try and get across the map. Right now, anyone above ground level is going to be sniped. Ideas include destroyed vehicles and bunkers and other rubble.
[*]If you're going to have the capture points above ground with minimal cover in the surrounding area, at least surround the point with a little bit of stuff so you don't get snipers just picking everyone off. You could make a partially destroyed bunker or the like.[/list]
I apparently see that he has not studied up on Trench Warfare and tactics of the great war. I would suggest reading up on [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_warfare"]Wiki[/url] and looking at these wonderful pictures I found on [url="http://images.google.com/images?q=Trench Warfare"]google[/url] to get a better idea for his next attempt. Until then...it looks like a bad attempt at making the Los Angeles river into a map.
I think this is pretty decent. I mean it's pretty fun to play with bots.
So how many trenches are in this map? 'Cause if it's one, he is awful at mapping.
[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;19949947]So how many trenches are in this map? 'Cause if it's one, he is awful at mapping.[/QUOTE]
We've established that
:fuckyou:
[QUOTE=biodude94566;19946904]This map is honestly really shitty.[/QUOTE]
:smug: x2
Apparently he has rated everyone dumb.
[QUOTE=raubana;19944811]Wtf!
[editline]07:28PM[/editline]
I give up, man, no one will be pleased...[/QUOTE]
Valve didn't give up, and their fans are STILL bitching at them.
[QUOTE=Akasori;19960770]Apparently he has rated everyone dumb.[/QUOTE]
Oh no! What an evil thing to do! We are surely humiliated and will commit suicide very soon!
Jesus... what I miss?
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