[QUOTE=Bat-shit;31376899]tf2 community gets so easily excited about p. much anything that might get brought to game[/QUOTE]
It shouldn't be surprising that people get excited over the most crapped on class having the possibility of finally getting some new and fun items.
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What was wrong with this?
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needed custom animations
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What was wrong with this?
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$1 says revolver.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;31365589]But those are promo items made by their new partner WETA, I don't think those necessarily count[/QUOTE]
You know, you'd think the WETA's promo pack would include items that are just perfect for the Engineer, right? He's an Engineer! You'd think he's just LOVE to reverse-engineer some high-tech space guns, right?
The whole "There weren't enough submitted" argument is just ridiculous. That doesn't excuse the absolute ludicrous amount of weapons for the soldier.
Oh and what about the pyro? There are a wealth of brilliant items that have been submitted, so that bothers me as well.
By the way: engineer.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;31376675]Boohoo? I mean, you can make more mini sentry weapons, and more regular sentry weapons. It all balances out. If they want to use some other sentry, then get that damn weapon instead.[/QUOTE]
it's an ass-backwards and more complicated way to do it.
I'm interested in the new non demoknight weps they have their eyes on though
[QUOTE=HyperTails;31380454]I'm interested in the new non demoknight weps they have their eyes on though[/QUOTE]
wow something that's not Demoknight or Soldier oriented
[QUOTE=HyperTails;31380454]I'm interested in the new non demoknight weps they have their eyes on though[/QUOTE]
I'm sick of Demo weapons period.
I like seeing new Soldier weapons, as he is currently my favorite class, but the entire multitude that they give him is ridiculous.
I'd prefer more Engineer weapons overall, as his play-style is essentially the same with every weapon, excluding the Gunslinger, thus giving Battle Engineer's some sort of worth that actually pays off other than mindlessly spamming Shotgun like a blind-shitter, which is what Battle Engineer's did before the Gunslinger.
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[QUOTE=Mentlegen;31382231]I'm sick of Demo weapons period.
I like seeing new Soldier weapons, as he is currently my favorite class, but the entire multitude that they give him is ridiculous.
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[i]You[/i] might like seeing more Soldier weapons. But when you consider how many he has at this point, it's bullshit. I'd like more Demo weapons that AREN'T demoknight material. I mean, we have only one alternate grenade launcher and stickybomb launcher, it's crap.
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Whilst the Soldier has about four rocket launchers now
[QUOTE=HyperTails;31382256][i]You[/i] might like seeing more Soldier weapons. But when you consider how many he has at this point, it's bullshit. I'd like more Demo weapons that AREN'T demoknight material. I mean, we have only one alternate grenade launcher and stickybomb launcher, it's crap.
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Whilst the Soldier has about four rocket launchers now[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mentlegen;31382231]I'm sick of Demo weapons period.
[b]I like seeing new Soldier weapons, as he is currently my favorite class, but the entire multitude that they give him is ridiculous.[/b][/QUOTE]
As I just said, even I think that the amount they give him is just plain stupid.
Though I guess my sickness towards Demo weapons is 100% towards the fact that all but two of his weapons are geared towards Demoknighting.
I myself Demoknight (With of course some Skullcutter/Sticky Launching), but you just can't beat the Eyelander, and they should have just stopped after the Skullcutter.
I'd prefer many more Grenade Launchers.
Valve has developed severe cases of Hat-itis, Demo-knighting, and Soldier-pleasuring.
[QUOTE=Mentlegen;31382329]Valve has developed severe cases of Hat-itis, Demo-knighting, and Soldier-pleasuring.[/QUOTE]
Is there a cure, Herr Doktor?
[QUOTE=MrIcePho3nix;31382419]Is there a cure, Herr Doktor?[/QUOTE]
Nein. We will have to amputate.
I'm just not a fan of any of the "character-based" weapons, like the huntsman or the demoknight weapons. The bright pink and green hats I seem to keep seeing aren't helping either.
Herr Doktor
Who wants to bet the new Engineer item is just going to be a a generic wrench with some minor stat changes?
Like the Jag, which only got implemented because the community kept asking about it as well.
[QUOTE=V12US;31383217]Who wants to bet the new Engineer item is just going to be a a generic wrench with some minor stat changes?
Like the Jag, which only got implemented because the community kept asking about it as well.[/QUOTE]
Its not even that good either
[QUOTE='[GRiM];31370134']I want more Engy packs that are "I'm an Engineer" not "HURR DURR I'M FROM TEXAS"[/QUOTE]
Same for spy. Needs more "I'm a Spy and I have high-tech spy devices".
And because of that, no matter how much I love the Legacy pack, I think the best pack was this one:[IMG]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1488/tf2micoupdate.png[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Zannabluke;31367958][url]http://www.engineer.fragfestservers.com/index.html[/url]
Some of them are pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
Good Lord, they're fascinating!
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What was wrong with this?
:([/QUOTE]
God, I want so bad a revolver for the Engineer; it will fit so well with Big Country or Texas Ten.
You know with all this Soldier bitching I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that Scout gets similar treatment
Scout has got only 3 less weapons than Soldier (not counting promo reskins) and before the Uber update he actually had more
[QUOTE=t man;31393357]You know with all this Soldier bitching I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that Scout gets similar treatment
Scout has got only 3 less weapons than Soldier (not counting promo reskins) and before the Uber update he actually had more[/QUOTE]
While this is true, We're mostly focusing on the extremes of the spectrum of classes. The Soldier gets new sets every time, and the Demo gets new melees every time.
All the while, the Pyro has gotten a paltry number of everything, some of which is just a rehashing of the stuff he already had (Detonator), and the Engineer got a couple of interesting items once, and sporadically acquired two wrenches since.
In the midst of all of this, the Scout, Spy, Sniper, Heavy, and Medic have all gotten a fairly reasonable amount of new content.
Pyro has lots of melee weapons.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;31393663]Pyro has lots of melee weapons.[/QUOTE]
How many of them are actively used?
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;31393663]Pyro has lots of melee weapons.[/QUOTE]
Axtinguisher, Powerjack, Backscratcher, Homewrecker, Volcano Fragment... 5. I would agree with you, were it not for that fact that the Demo has 8.
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Also, I only ever see people using the Powerjack, Axtinguisher, and (occasionally) the Volcano Fragment. I see all the Demo melees getting used with varying frequency. All of which are very frequent.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31382546]I'm just not a fan of any of the "character-based" weapons, like the huntsman or the demoknight weapons.[/QUOTE]
Neither of those are character related at all.
[QUOTE=MrIcePho3nix;31393640]While this is true, We're mostly focusing on the extremes of the spectrum of classes. The Soldier gets new sets every time, and the Demo gets new melees every time.
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And so does Scout. Almost every update that adds new weapons to multiple classes has included Scout, the only exceptions being the first 2 community contribution updates.
Hell looking into it, the Grordbort's Pack is the only time Soldier has gotten an update that didn't include another class.
[QUOTE=MrIcePho3nix;31393777]Axtinguisher, Powerjack, Backscratcher, Homewrecker, Volcano Fragment... 5. I would agree with you, were it not for that fact that the Demo has 8.
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Also, I only ever see people using the Powerjack, Axtinguisher, and (occasionally) the Volcano Fragment. I see all the Demo melees getting used with varying frequency. All of which are very frequent.[/QUOTE]
Pyro's melees don't gimp him in exchange for gimmicky bullshit like almost all of Demoman's do though
[QUOTE=MrIcePho3nix;31393777]Axtinguisher, Powerjack, Backscratcher, Homewrecker, Volcano Fragment... 5. I would agree with you, were it not for that fact that the Demo has 8.
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Also, I only ever see people using the Powerjack, Axtinguisher, and (occasionally) the Volcano Fragment. I see all the Demo melees getting used with varying frequency. All of which are very frequent.[/QUOTE]
I don't see anyone using Volcano Fragment, and rightfully so because it's a useless melee. It might actually see use if it applied both Bleeding + Burning on hit, but besides being a very modest consideration in ONLY Medieval Mode for the sake of applying a condition, it's never used.
It's just so much easier to just spray your Flamethrower in the general direction of the enemy to light them on fire than to try to use your melee weapon to set them on fire. The fact that it does 20% less damage than even the never used vanilla Fire Axe is somewhat disconcerting. I do realize that is has to be balanced and be a sidegrade to the vanilla weapon, but I'd honestly rather use the Fire Axe over the Volcano Fragment any day of the week. I do more damage and because I have a brain I can apply burning with my Flamethrower anyways. Although of course, I'd prefer Axtinguisher to any Pyro melee item.
Personally, I don't like how Bleeding melee weapons are used in the game, and I'd rather Pyro not get a bleeding melee weapon, but the Volcano Fragment as it is doesn't fit any kind of useful niche at all. It's nice that Pyro got a melee that can light enemies on fire, but as I said before, it's just so much easier to light enemies on fire with the flamethrower that the Volcano Fragment only ever sees rare use in Medieval Mode.
Also, don't forget the fact that any Pyro with a brain will be using the Back Scratcher in Medieval Mode. +25% damage and +50% healing from medkits is amazingly good.
[QUOTE=t man;31394502]Pyro's melees don't gimp him in exchange for gimmicky bullshit like almost all of Demoman's do though[/QUOTE]
I suppose, but he's already a mega gimped class.
I just want a new Flamethrower thats got better afterburn mechanics. Maybe replace alt fire with a secondary oil stream that extends afterburn from a longer distance than the flames, and causes flames to mini-crit or harder to remove from liquids in jars and friendly airblasts.
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