I think the civilian is supposed to be underpowered.
He isn't underpowered, just people complaining because they can't defeat a heavy.
bring back the ludmila
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;16169442]He isn't underpowered, just people complaining because they can't defeat a heavy.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you're thinking about this the right way.
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Get a good Heavy, Medic, Pyro, and Scout offense all communicating, then you have a tank going through. Medic keeps the group alive, Pyro protects from Spies and projectiles, and Scouts keep enemy Snipers and the general other team busy.
If they are good enough, it's unstoppable.
The idea is that he's a killing machine when he has backup. Alone, not so much.
I just absolutely hate playing him because first off all he has SO many counters. Second of all it's hard to avoid getting raped by Snipers.
Every time I play Heavy (Only on 2fort), I rape and pillage... I don't think the Heavy is underpowered
he's well balanced, just like every class
Fuck no. He is just slow.
BAAWWWW PYRO IS OVERPOWERED W+M1 BAWWWWWWWw
The heavy is not at all underpowered, it's just most classes have an advantage over him. Like Scout is too fast for him, Spy can easily backstab him and Sniper can easily headshot him.
The heavy is, quite the most even class, like you say as well as the Soldier, I just think the sniper is a little weak though, just a bit more health would be nice, just a bit.
The heavy needs a mullet, then he will be perfectly balanced.
[QUOTE=Dlaor;16171291]BAAWWWW PYRO IS OVERPOWERED W+M1 BAWWWWWWWw[/QUOTE]
Coming from a spy, yes, he kind of is. The problem is there is no easy fix for that, other than maybe shortening the ridiculously long distance the pyro can ignite from.
For now you have to settle for plastic football helmets
[QUOTE=Necrotic Fever;16171448]The heavy is not at all underpowered, it's just most classes have an advantage over him. Like Scout is too fast for him, Spy can easily backstab him and Sniper can easily headshot him.[/QUOTE]
Actually I think that the Heavy was created as a counter to the Scout. Scout is weak and Heavy has great damage, and can usually hit him easily with his minigun.
Oh good god no not in the right hands.
I've seen heavies who never go into battle without a medic buddy.
These heavies are usually the most effective.
Talk to Kikka about playing an effective heavy.
Which is why natascha is here. slows the faster classes for easier mashing into bloody pulps.
Kikka is credit to team as heavy. too bad hes a bit of an ego-admin Name is Advice:XXXXXXX by the way
[QUOTE=Visage;16171911]Coming from a spy, yes, he kind of is. The problem is there is no easy fix for that, other than maybe shortening the ridiculously long distance the pyro can ignite from.[/QUOTE]
you do not represent spies
you represent terrible spies
good fucking day sir
Well. Classy suit iz NOT a synonym for fireproof
Not underpowered, underplayed. People don't play the class that much, and less people know how to play it well.
Also, doing well when alone is to a Heavy what walljumping is to a Soldier, or stairstabs to a Spy. It takes practice.
[QUOTE=phill977;16165471]Nope, it's fine in my opinon.
It has it's strengths and weaknesses.
Just like every class[/QUOTE]
This, it's just his strengths and weaknesses are both much greater than other classes.
When i play heavy i just plop my fat ass in front of the bomb cart and check behind me for spies occasionally. I've gone entire rounds with my ass on the cart without dieing. Just point at snipers so their aim gets fucked up.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;16165479]No, he destroys every other class one on one, but when he's teamed up on he dies VERY quickly.[/QUOTE]
Scouts rape him one on one.
This is taking into account that you're playing on a map where there's actual walls and shit to duck behind.
And no, I'm not talking about FAN / Sandman combo, I mean the regular layout.
[QUOTE=KStyleAzure;16175443]Scouts rape him one on one.
This is taking into account that you're playing on a map where there's actual walls and shit to duck behind.
And no, I'm not talking about FAN / Sandman combo, I mean the regular layout.[/QUOTE]I usually rape scouts when they try to fight me one on one. Maybe they were just bad scouts or something..
Good heavies needs good ears so they can hear when somebody behind them got backstabbed by a spy. I think I got the one spy raging because he stabbed my medic, I heard it, and I whipped around in time to blast him point blank with Sasha.
[QUOTE=Invulnerable;16171995]Actually I think that the Heavy was created as a counter to the Scout. Scout is weak and Heavy has great damage, and can usually hit him easily with his minigun.[/QUOTE]
However the FAN lets a scout literally kill a heavy in two shots. It also lets him push a heavy backwards and keep the heavy from going around the corner to kill that fucking scout or force the scout to retreat. Heavies aren't fast and by the time he recovers the distance lost by the FAN, he's knocked back again.
[QUOTE=DrTirD;16175653]I usually rape scouts when they try to fight me one on one. Maybe they were just bad scouts or something..[/QUOTE]
Good scouts take into account that attacking in various angles is the superior tactic. Some might even say it's even more important than aim.
[QUOTE=Yobdren;16167551]Civilian is underpowered.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit, I'll give you a video to prove it. I just have to upload it....
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