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[QUOTE=Real Hitler Fag;31495481]I'm speaking for the mods. Craptasket has had enough of your guys' whining, so, instead of going batshit on you guys and banning all of you + deleting your thread, he told me to cover for him. 20 pages. Hope you understand.[/QUOTE] you sure do post like him [editline]edit[/editline] and by that i mean trolling everyone just because you have the power to

[img]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4976/crap.jpg[/img] feedback was what you wanted :v:

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31495353]That isn't the point and you know it.[/QUOTE] yeah that's pretty much exactly what it is

you haven't made an important decision and then gone back on it and done something completely different regardless of the dozens of people wanting you to do the opposite yet though, i hope you do something like that soon

Wow, I can see why Craptasket was so annoyed with you guys. Listen, it's your decision. I'm just telling you guys that going 20 pages without an off-topic discussion will save your thread. If you decide not to believe me and make no effort towards that, then it's your choice. But it's not doing anything to save you.

[QUOTE=Kinglah Crab;31495532]yeah that's pretty much exactly what it is[/QUOTE] So you would also support merging every trading, unusual, item, and raffle thread into one large one? [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Real Hitler Fag;31495600]Wow, I can see why Craptasket was so annoyed with you guys. Listen, it's your decision. I'm just telling you guys that going 20 pages without an off-topic discussion will save your thread. If you decide not to believe me and make no effort towards that, then it's your choice. But it's not doing anything to save you.[/QUOTE] Honestly 20 pages of decent item-giving and raffling with 5 truly off-topic posts in them won't kill anybody.

[QUOTE=Real Hitler Fag;31495600]Wow, I can see why Craptasket was so annoyed with you guys. Listen, it's your decision. I'm just telling you guys that going 20 pages without an off-topic discussion will save your thread. If you decide not to believe me and make no effort towards that, then it's your choice. But it's not doing anything to save you.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure you're just a mod-impersonating troll but in case you aren't, whatever you say chief, go ahead and get started monitoring the thread day in and day out for off topic discussions lemme know when you get bored :smile:

[QUOTE=Doomish;31495627]I'm pretty sure you're just a mod-impersonating troll but whatever you say chief, go ahead and get started monitoring the thread day in and day out for off topic discussions lemme know when you get bored :smile:[/QUOTE] No need to get worked up.

[QUOTE=Real Hitler Fag;31495600]Wow, I can see why Craptasket was so annoyed with you guys. Listen, it's your decision. I'm just telling you guys that going 20 pages without an off-topic discussion will save your thread. If you decide not to believe me and make no effort towards that, then it's your choice. But it's not doing anything to save you.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure the active policing by other members of the thread, thus helping out the mods that said this was the biggest problem, is a much better example :V

I'll be back once you hit the 20 pages. See ya.

[QUOTE=Real Hitler Fag;31495688]I'll be back once you hit the 20 pages. See ya.[/QUOTE] I have to wonder if you even come to this section on a regular basis.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;31495054]deal with it, lmao[/QUOTE] That's right!

Don't you FHaIT guys have your own chat thread here, a raffle forum/site, and a active steam group. and reasons unknown other than complete incompetence still manage to off-topic post in FHaIT.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;31495824]Don't you FHaIT guys have your own chat thread here, a raffle forum/site, and a active steam group. and reasons unknown other than complete incompetence still manage to off-topic post in FHaIT.[/QUOTE] And people get banned when they do so. That's the point of having the "don't off topic post or you will be banned" in the title. Without that, you'd have every reason to get rid of the thread, but because you and the other mods of this section have [I]already made a commitment to ban people who off-topic post[/I], you have no reason to get rid of it without going back on your word about actually moderating it.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;31495824]Don't you FHaIT guys have your own chat thread here, a raffle forum/site, and a active steam group. and reasons unknown other than complete incompetence still manage to off-topic post in FHaIT.[/QUOTE] Most of that shit is dead. The group is for only when Jesse boots up his server and has an "event" where we have a contest for a hat or something.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;31495824]Don't you FHaIT guys have your own chat thread here, a raffle forum/site, and a active steam group. and reasons unknown other than complete incompetence still manage to off-topic post in FHaIT.[/QUOTE] I don't know about any related chat thread, but yes there is a Steam group. Most posts in FHaIT fall under several categories: posts presenting new raffles posts presenting raffle winners screenshots of raffle winnings comments on current raffles backpack links for the sake of giving items out from it legitimately off-topic posts The legitimately off-topic posts are out of place and should most definitely be curtailed, but doing that doesn't require deleting the thread. This has already been said, but it should be clear by now that posts discussing ongoing raffles that may seem off-topic or posts about item finds or new give-aways that may seem off-topic aren't hurting anyone. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Doomish;31495859]And people get banned when they do so. That's the point of having the "don't off topic post or you will be banned" in the title. Without that, you'd have every reason to get rid of the thread, [B]but because you and the other mods of this section have [I]already made a commitment to ban people who off-topic post[/I], you have no reason to get rid of it without going back on your word about actually moderating it.[/B][/QUOTE] To be fair that's kind of a semantics argument to treat the changing of the thread title as a promise to regulate it entirely. I think that was more to imply that it would be more closely watched, not monitored all the time.

you are too stupid to discuss this

[QUOTE=AxisofIdiocy;31495933]you are too stupid to discuss this[/QUOTE] To whom are you referring?

[QUOTE=Doomish;31495859]And people get banned when they do so. That's the point of having the "don't off topic post or you will be banned" in the title. Without that, you'd have every reason to get rid of the thread, but because you and the other mods of this section have [I]already made a commitment to ban people who off-topic post[/I], you have no reason to get rid of it without going back on your word about actually moderating it.[/QUOTE] Maybe the mods don't want to sped 24 hours a day watching the thread for when it inevitably goes to shit

[QUOTE=AxisofIdiocy;31495933]you are too stupid to discuss this[/QUOTE] *checks your post history* Yeah, you're one to be trusted on the topic of this thread. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ollih;31495993]Maybe the mods don't want to sped 24 hours a day watching the thread for when it inevitably goes to shit[/QUOTE] Members are actively trying to curve this to help the mods.

You guys forget who's in charge here...

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31495904]I don't know about any related chat thread, but yes there is a Steam group. Most posts in FHaIT fall under several categories: posts presenting new raffles posts presenting raffle winners screenshots of raffle winnings comments on current raffles backpack links for the sake of giving items out from it legitimately off-topic posts The legitimately off-topic posts are out of place and should most definitely be curtailed, but doing that doesn't require deleting the thread. This has already been said, but it should be clear by now that posts discussing ongoing raffles that may seem off-topic or posts about item finds or new give-aways that may seem off-topic aren't hurting anyone. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] To be fair that's kind of a semantics argument to treat the changing of the thread title as a promise to regulate it entirely. I think that was more to imply that it would be more closely watched, not monitored all the time.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1103857-TF2-General-Chat-Thread-v5!!-Exclamation-marks-are-cool-edition[/url]!!!! This is the chat thread, this is exempt from the off-topic rule. There is no excuse to off-topic post anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Ollih;31495993]Maybe the mods don't want to sped 24 hours a day watching the thread for when it inevitably goes to shit[/QUOTE] And I understand that, that's why I said the changing of the thread title wasn't a "promise to monitor it 24/7". As Behemothbear just stated, some of the more regular members as well as myself are trying to keep it to a minimum. [editline]2nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Craptasket;31496054][url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1103857-TF2-General-Chat-Thread-v5!!-Exclamation-marks-are-cool-edition[/url]!!!! This is the chat thread, this is exempt from the off-topic rule. There is no excuse to off-topic post anywhere else.[/QUOTE] I thought you meant when specifically for gift-giving chat or something (in retrospect that sounds rather idiotic), but yes I agree that off-topic posts having nothing to do with the thread's purpose should only go in that thread.

[QUOTE=Behemothbear;31495998]*checks your post history* Yeah, you're one to be trusted on the topic of this thread.[/QUOTE] you got somethin to say?

[QUOTE=AxisofIdiocy;31496104]you got somethin to say?[/QUOTE] Yes, don't get off-topic :v:

Since everyone is doing it, i'll throw my two cents in here too. I know alot of you disagree to the thread being shut down, but i for one want it to.The whole idea of the thread was to give to people and the good feeling you get from it.The thread now turned into a general spam and giveaway thread with endless drama and pages of...pretty much utter crap. I also see a large majority of people in the thread who shouldn't be even there. Most of the people there are leeching off generous people just to feed their item ADD. To be honest, it's a bit sickening when there are people with pages of hats asking to be added in a raffle to get another hat. On top of that, the thread always seems to have this idea that spamming the last ten pages of the thread just to fight over who makes the other OP is justifiable. Personally, if people want to give items away why don't they just fight over it in a sever like they always have done before?

I'll address each point: [QUOTE=TentuZero;31496203]The thread now turned into a general spam and giveaway thread with endless drama and pages of...pretty much utter crap.[/quote] From my point of view, this is false. If you believe this, examples would be nice. [QUOTE=TentuZero;31496203]I also see a large majority of people in the thread who shouldn't be even there.[/quote] Again, examples are need, seeing as this is somewhat vague. [QUOTE=TentuZero;31496203]Most of the people there are leeching off generous people just to feed their item ADD. To be honest, it's a bit sickening when there are people with pages of hats asking to be added in a raffle to get another hat.[/quote] The whole point of the thread is for gift-giving, and calling it leeching doesn't change what's actually going on. Also, raffles are for everyone who wishes to participate. [QUOTE=TentuZero;31496203]On top of that, the thread always seems to have this idea that spamming the last ten pages of the thread just to fight over who makes the other OP is justifiable.[/quote] Well now that there's no page limit, that shouldn't be a problem. [QUOTE=TentuZero;31496203]Personally, if people want to give items away why don't they just fight over it in a sever like they always have done before?[/QUOTE] Because that was a sloppy process and most folks don't want to be in-game all day to participate in raffles.

Alright, lets start from the top. [QUOTE=Megafanx13;31496358] From my point of view, this is false. If you believe this, examples would be nice. [b] There is way to many to list. So here's a page of nonsense just to start off. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1107879-Free-Hats-and-Items-Thread-v30-Don-t-post-off-topic-or-you-ll-be-banned./page12[/url] [/b] Again, examples are need, seeing as this is somewhat vague. [b] So we don't start a giant drama flame war, i won't list them. But if you want some examples of this, i'll gladly pm you a list. [/b] The whole point of the thread is for gift-giving, and calling it leeching doesn't change what's actually going on. Also, raffles are for everyone who wishes to participate. [b]Raffles are for everyone eh? I bet alot of people who had 4channers spam their raffles may disagree with you. [/b] Well now that there's no page limit, that shouldn't be a problem. [b] For now. [/b] Because that was a sloppy process and most folks don't want to be in-game all day to participate in raffles. [b] Who says they should be in game in all day? We have a group. Things can be announced and times can be set. [/b] [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TentuZero;31496553]Alright, lets start from the top.[/QUOTE] 1. And that page was indeed dumb and off-topic. What's your point? 2. Sure, send me a list. 3. I was referring to the in-thread raffles, not those on TF2R. 4. I'm just saying that's more effort than it's worth for a raffle that could otherwise take only a few minutes.

[QUOTE=TentuZero;31496553]There way to many to list. So here's a page of nonsense just to start off. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/110...banned./page12[/url] [/QUOTE] oh sweet jesus why