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[QUOTE=Speed Of Dark;31452825]Mann Co. would like to have a word with you.[/QUOTE] That's dumb to and anyone who bought over 100 dollars on hats should be shot on sight.

[QUOTE=Wootman;31452839]That's dumb to and anyone who bought over 100 dollars on hats should be shot on sight.[/QUOTE]Even the guys who bought the Japan charity hats?

[QUOTE=Wootman;31452839]That's dumb to and anyone who bought over 100 dollars on hats should be shot on sight.[/QUOTE] I suggest you not click this link wootman [url]http://www.goofball.com/news/Worlds_Most_Expensive_Hat[/url] We are shitting up the thread lets stop. I think it's an overall bad idea closing the items for games and items for money megathread.

[QUOTE=Pennywise;31452956]Even the guys who bought the Japan charity hats?[/QUOTE] Thats different.

[QUOTE=Wootman;31453240]Thats different.[/QUOTE] How so

If the stuff that annoys you and the stuff you love are going to be merged, we can have a thread for TF2 Ms paint drawings and not just stuff you love or hate?

[QUOTE=Sir Spicy Buns;31453286]How so[/QUOTE] One is for charity and one is being stupid and buying a hat you can get for free.

[QUOTE=Wootman;31453309]One is for charity and one is being stupid and buying a hat you can get for free.[/QUOTE] The money people gain from selling there hats is helping them

There should be one whole Patch General thread though People trying to whore the "first thread" is pretty bullshit

[QUOTE=Sir Spicy Buns;31453324]The money people gain from selling there hats is helping them[/QUOTE] I said buy not selling. Selling hats is smarter because they make money by selling a item for 1,000 dollars.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;31452121]Okay then, let's use the same logic for Unusual Trading that you use for the emporium; "I went in the Unusual Trading thread, and people are posting trades and trade requests. I don't see why not."[/QUOTE] Once somebody posted a pony in the Emporium; let's merge the Emporium and the MLP thread. :downs: But really, I see no reason to combine threads that aren't basically the same thing. It'll just cause problems in the long run.

DDT all old threads known and linked Leave FHaIT, emporium and chat thread alive Merge both trading threads Merge the ask shit questions threads with the chat thread Problem solved.

[QUOTE=Baboo00;31453749][B]Once somebody posted a pony in the Emporium; let's merge the Emporium and the MLP thread.[/B] :downs: But really, I see no reason to combine threads that aren't basically the same thing. It'll just cause problems in the long run.[/QUOTE] I'm okay with this. :)

I think FHAIT thread should be killed since it's 90% of shitposts and mostly everyone except posters in it basically hates it. Not to mention half of them post only to increase their post count. They can go to Jesse or whatever his name is forum and continue shitposting there. Oh and FHAIT always causes drama. Oh look all FHAIT posters rated me dumb what a suprise.

"Funny" TF2 Screenshots and TF2 Media should be merged.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;31457537]"Funny" TF2 Screenshots and TF2 Media should be merged.[/QUOTE] tf2 screenshots, media, and the spray thread.

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;31457425]I think FHAIT thread should be killed since it's 90% of shitposts and mostly everyone except posters in it basically hates it. Not to mention half of them post only to increase their post count. They can go to Jesse or whatever his name is forum and continue shitposting there. Oh and FHAIT always causes drama.[/QUOTE] I completely disagree, I haven't visited it for a while but Drama only happened once in a blue moon. And it quickly got sorted out. As far as I know, there was a rule where Raffles were to be kept to either ratings or PM's, but last time I checked people went back to calling out numbers in a post. There's the only problem I see with increasing post count/shitposting. Just reinforce that rule, and it won't be nearly as bad. TBH, I think you should keep FH[sub]A[/sub]IT. It's a rather nice concept, and if you just add a few more rules it won't be nearly as bad as you seem to make it.

[QUOTE=Silversoda;31457709]I completely disagree, I haven't visited it for a while but Drama only happened once in a blue moon. And it quickly got sorted out. As far as I know, there was a rule where Raffles were to be kept to either ratings or PM's, but last time I checked people went back to calling out numbers in a post. There's the only problem I see with increasing post count/shitposting. Just reinforce that rule, and it won't be nearly as bad. TBH, I think you should keep FH[sub]A[/sub]IT. It's a rather nice concept, and if you just add a few more rules it won't be nearly as bad as you seem to make it.[/QUOTE] We went back to the old way of raffling because people from 4chan were supposedly sneaking into the raffles we made on TF2R.com

[QUOTE=Silversoda;31457709]I completely disagree, I haven't visited it for a while but Drama only happened once in a blue moon. And it quickly got sorted out. As far as I know, there was a rule where Raffles were to be kept to either ratings or PM's, but last time I checked people went back to calling out numbers in a post. There's the only problem I see with increasing post count/shitposting. Just reinforce that rule, and it won't be nearly as bad. TBH, I think you should keep FH[sub]A[/sub]IT. It's a rather nice concept, and if you just add a few more rules it won't be nearly as bad as you seem to make it.[/QUOTE] The title is literally, "Don't post off-topic, or you'll be banned." Every. Single. Page has off-topic crap in it. Hell, the current page has a guy asking for the value of items because, "Honestly man. Because there is fuck all point asking in the other threads, never get a reply. Been ten minutes got two responses." One of the problems is, lots of people joined this forum just to post in that thread. So that thread attracts lots of new idiots that don't seem to understand how a forum works. Even after most of the main "problem posters" have been banned they just go right back to doing it. Just today Godzillabeast, a banned person, got someone else banned because he told him to post a game he gifted. This is after he got someone else banned for the same fucking thing. Lots of the people in that thread do not learn at all and there isn't really a way to solve that rather than perma banning half the posters. I love the concept of the thread, I've given and received a bunch of stuff. It used to be a great community but lately shit has gotten out of hand and I really don't see a way to fix it.

[QUOTE=Sparrowsluck;31457843]The title is literally, "Don't post off-topic, or you'll be banned." Every. Single. Page has off-topic crap in it. Hell, the current page has a guy asking for the value of items because, "Honestly man. Because there is fuck all point asking in the other threads, never get a reply. Been ten minutes got two responses." One of the problems is, lots of people joined this forum just to post in that thread. So that thread attracts lots of new idiots that don't seem to understand how a forum works. Even after most of the main "problem posters" have been banned they just go right back to doing it. Just today Godzillabeast, a banned person, got someone else banned because he told him to post a game he gifted. This is after he got someone else banned for the same fucking thing. Lots of the people in that thread do not learn at all and there isn't really a way to solve that rather than perma banning half the posters. I love the concept of the thread, I've given and received a bunch of stuff. It used to be a great community but lately shit has gotten out of hand and I really don't see a way to fix it.[/QUOTE] Staying neutral about any points raised in this post, the currently decided solution is to shove FHaIT into Trading thread, and that's just going to move all the points you just raised there into trading, causing the same thing to happen there.

One thing that's been bothering me though. We're being merged because the shit posters are annoying for the mods/too much work. I don't understand that thinking at all. Do you guys honestly think this problem is going to go away with a merge? If anything this will create more off-topic problems for you guys. The shit posters are just going to follow the thread where ever it goes so there are only two options really. 1. Keep the thread but increase the ban duration for off topic posting. Instead of a day to three, make it a week. Make it increase with each ban, 1 week, 1 month, perma. A three strikes rule. Surely that would reduce the problem. 2. Just delete it entirely. [editline]31st July 2011[/editline] Hah, a well timed ninja post.

[QUOTE=Speed Of Dark;31457822]We went back to the old way of raffling because people from 4chan were supposedly sneaking into the raffles we made on TF2R.com[/QUOTE] You don't NEED TF2R. Just use RATINGS, or PM'ing! You can't sneak in via that way unless you create a brand new account. And even then, if you're smart you won't accept new accounts with 0 posts. [quote]The title is literally, "Don't post off-topic, or you'll be banned." Every. Single. Page has off-topic crap in it.[/quote] Bitch, best heavily enforce the rules for a day or two. People WILL learn from others after the first few bans. [quote]I love the concept of the thread, I've given and received a bunch of stuff. It used to be a great community but lately shit has gotten out of hand and I really don't see a way to fix it.[/QUOTE] If there is a will, [b][i]there is a way.[/b][/i] Not much else can be said here, unless nobody really wants to make a small amount of effort. [sub]Also, on the idea of merging it with trading? WTF? Just axe the thread completely instead of merging it. It's either gone completely, or has it's own topic. Putting it into trading is silly.[/sub]

[QUOTE=Silversoda;31458057]Bitch, best heavily enforce the rules for a day or two. People WILL learn from others after the first few bans. [/QUOTE] They did try that, for quite a while actually. After Seiteki closed the thread around V 28 the rules have been more heavily enforced. I've seen entire pages of people banned for off-topic posting and they just do the same thing after each time. We've had weeks, maybe even a month of this. As you can see it's done very little. [B]Even changing the title to ,"Don't post off-topic, or you'll be banned" had little to no effect.[/B] [quote]If there is a will, there is a way. Not much else can be said here, unless nobody really wants to make a small amount of effort. [/quote] There isn't much we can do since the problem is out of our control. It's up to the shitposters to stop, no one can make them. I mean, if being banned for days on end doesn't do anything what can we do?

[QUOTE=Wootman;31453357]I said buy not selling. Selling hats is smarter because they make money by selling a item for 1,000 dollars.[/QUOTE] uh boy are you stupid or what to sell a hat, someone has to BUY it which is exactly what you are arguing against and you are therefore going back on your own word after arguing about it for 3 pages good job hypocrite

Merging the FHAIT with the Trading thread is a terrible idea.

[QUOTE=Suttles;31457595]tf2 screenshots, media, and the spray thread.[/QUOTE] Oh god not the spray thread too people will be posting shitty porn fan art of TF2 going "THIS IS MY TF2 SPRAY I AM SO FUCKING CLEVER BECAUSE I SPRAY IT AND I KILL PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT TOTALLY MY IDEA"

I certainly don't agree with FHaIT being merged with anything.

Face it we're not going to chance Crap's mind

[QUOTE=HyperTails;31460245]Face it we're not going to chance Crap's mind[/QUOTE] His literally crap mind.

Free hats and trading thread just sounds like shit :v: