[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683455]I hope that is a joke because i just laughed like a madman[/QUOTE]
It's a general outline, but he's got the general shape right.
His is still a little big.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683600]I'm just following the concept, I'm assuming that's a stop for the pump. If it doesn't fit, I'll fix it, along with probably other things when I do the test compile.
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Ok, throw insults out there, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Apparently following the concept isn't working out too well for you.
Does anyone know if Frankenhud released a fix for the Pip-Boy? It doesn't say on the website :/
What I don't understand is why you guys told me to make it shorter and then tell me to make it longer than it was before.
Sometimes it's good to deviate a little from the concept if it makes the model look good. Just sayin'. Hell, I never follow my own drawn concepts completely since they're terrible.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;31683631][IMG]http://gyazo.com/aab42ff850239290722c630fa246d4aa.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
It's not a fucking trench gun. And you're removing details relevant to the concept and the gun as a whole.
[QUOTE=ScreamingGerbil;31683634]Sometimes it's good to deviate a little from the concept if it makes the model look good. Just sayin'. Hell, I never follow my own drawn concepts completely since they're terrible.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but he's slowly making it a trench gun, which it is not.
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;31683641][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16429045/hopeithelps.png[/img][/QUOTE]
And that's not helpful. I'm not going to accept criticism from people who don't want to help.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683600]I'm just following the concept, I'm assuming that's a stop for the pump. If it doesn't fit, I'll fix it, along with probably other things when I do the test compile.[/QUOTE]
I think this could be a great shotgun replacement, but you can't stick to the concept art so ardently, or else it's going to come out ridiculous. It could stand to be a little longer, with the stock getting some more meat, and the barrel getting a little longer. All in all it depends how it fits into the character's hands, but there's more than one facet to the design to consider.
Not to interupt on the concept stuff, but some modelers have this unique ability to change a few lose screws in a concept and make it better, Spark, Sexy and Von have done this before and I look back at the original and see were those lose ends were. If it wasn't for concepts some video game characters would look nothing how they look today, just take a look at the old TF2 weapon concepts and look at how they are now. I'm not saying I'm super important but concepts are the back bone of society which helps out the rest work out well in the end.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683642]
And that's not helpful. I'm not going to accept criticism from people who don't want to help.[/QUOTE]
Exactly my point. Every time someone tries to give you constructive criticism you tell them they aren't helping/their just taking it out on you/some other stupid thing.
For God's sake people, let him get it ingame and try it out before criticising the shape. I mean hey, it might fit quite nicely.
On another note, does anyone know what this diamond model is in the game files?
[img]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1281/whatmodelisthis.png[/img]
Also, I don't think people are trying to be overly critical, but opinions matter with this sort of thing, because really what's the point of a skin if no one but you uses it?
[editline]11th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Szraneraxtq;31683663]For God's sake people, let him get it ingame and try it out before criticising the shape. I mean hey, it might fit quite nicely.[/QUOTE]
That's why I said it's important to consider how the gun fits in the character's hands.
[editline]11th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;31683660]Exactly my point. Every time someone tries to give you constructive criticism you tell them they aren't helping/their just taking it out on you/some other stupid thing.[/QUOTE]
You were a [I]little[/I] abrasive.
[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;31683660]Exactly my point. Every time someone tries to give you constructive criticism you tell them they aren't helping/their just taking it out on you/some other stupid thing.[/QUOTE]
You're telling me to basically scrap an entire week's worth of progress just because you say so, how is telling me to scrap a project helping me in anyway, quitting a project never helped anyone, especially since you're telling me relearn anything nullifying the "learned something" argument.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683691]You're telling me to basically scrap an entire week's worth of progress just because you say so, how is telling me to scrap a project helping me in anyway, quitting a project never helped anyone, especially since you're telling me relearn anything nullifying the "learned something" argument.[/QUOTE]
lol a week is nothing. I'm telling you to scrap it because it's completely wrong and there's nothing you can do to save it except remodel it. You need to relearn because what you've learned is wrong.
[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;31683709]lol a week is nothing. I'm telling you to scrap it because it's completely wrong and there's nothing you can do to save it except remodel it. I'm telling you to relearn because what you've learned is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Which is not in any way, shape, or form helpful. I've showed it to several people who like it, why is it that the people I have a history with are the only ones blatantly and abrasively giving me criticism?
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;31683716][img]http://tf2.com/images/artwork/concept/all_weapons01.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
All of those were [I]generally[/I] followed, I am [I]generally[/I] following it. I'm going to add stuff later that's going to add or remove stuff from the concept.
[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;31683716][img]http://tf2.com/images/artwork/concept/all_weapons01.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I would've preferred an SMG for Medic to a syringe gun actually. And a one-shot grenade launcher might've been an interesting idea for Demoman.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683637]It's not a fucking trench gun. And you're removing details relevant to the concept and the gun as a whole.[/QUOTE]
I am completely certain that the general base design of the concept was that of a trench gun. Sparkwire's editing there is a perfect canvas for the details to be added, because it's in correct proportion, unlike yours.
(Ahem,a friend linked me to this and I felt like being helpful,or not.Anyways.)Eeshton.What people are telling you is that the concept is pretty much the Winchester 1897, with a few modifications to make it fit with packs(and tf2)style.Plus,to make it a bit more intresting.
The bolt/shell ejector is.Tiny.Make a shell as big as your barrel,then try to move it out of the ejector in model viewer,you will see it doesnt.The gun just goes poof in your hands.The proportions overall would not fit TF2.Model it with knowleadge of how it may look in a hands of class you are making it for.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;31683721]Which is not in any way, shape, or form helpful. I've showed it to several people who like it, why is it that the people I have a history with are the only ones blatantly and abrasively giving me criticism?[/QUOTE]
I'm still sticking by the "longer barrel, bigger stock, check the hand positions" criticism.
[QUOTE=Mech Bgum;31683716][img]http://tf2.com/images/artwork/concept/all_weapons01.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That AR for the sniper is amazing, I guess that's what they were thinking of when they still looked at it from a TFC point of view. Would make a neat replacement if they could get it to work well with the animations.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;31683761]That AR for the sniper is amazing, I guess that's what they were thinking of when they still looked at it from a TFC point of view. Would make a neat replacement if they could get it to work well with the animations.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, the days of no giant swords and no lazer guns:
[img]http://www.digitalbattle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/teamfortress2logo.jpg[/img]
I wish TF2 still took itself a least a little seriously.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31683798]Ah yes, the days of no giant swords and no lazer guns:
[img]http://www.digitalbattle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/teamfortress2logo.jpg[/img]
I wish TF2 still took itself a least a little seriously.[/QUOTE]
The sniper in TFC had an assault rifle as a secondary that was close to the regular sniper rifle model, so I assume that's what they were thinking of making that.
I've always wondered what TF2 would have looked like in the old grungy concept style.
[thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/77/Dm_concept3a.png[/thumb]
[QUOTE=mastermaul;31683761]That AR for the sniper is amazing, I guess that's what they were thinking of when they still looked at it from a TFC point of view. Would make a neat replacement if they could get it to work well with the animations.[/QUOTE]
So, to summarize, someone needs to make that grenade launcher (the M79 I believe) for Demoman, and someone should make that assault rifle (might be a G3) for Sniper.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31683848]So, to summarize, someone needs to make that grenade launcher (the M79 I believe) for Demoman, and someone should make that assault rifle (might be a G3) for Sniper.[/QUOTE]
Someone could recreate the Medic's SMG as a Sniper secondary. He needs some more guns for that slot.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;31683846]The sniper in TFC had an assault rifle as a secondary that was close to the regular sniper rifle model, so I assume that's what they were thinking of making that.
I've always wondered what TF2 would have looked like in the old grungy concept style.
[thumb]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/77/Dm_concept3a.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I really wish they'd stuck with it:
[t]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/b/b7/Engineer_concept_r.png[/t]
[t]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/31/Soldier_concept_r.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31683798]Ah yes, the days of no giant swords and no lazer guns:
[img]http://www.digitalbattle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/teamfortress2logo.jpg[/img]
I wish TF2 still took itself a least a little seriously.[/QUOTE]
But Demoman...D-Demomen, would have been spamming dynamites and Medic has a huge fucking needle that probably doesn't go in your arm.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31683848]So, to summarize, someone needs to make that grenade launcher (the M79 I believe) for Demoman, and someone should make that assault rifle (might be a G3) for Sniper.[/QUOTE]
The AR looks more like a BAR to me.
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;31683879]Someone could recreate the Medic's SMG as a Sniper secondary. He needs some more guns for that slot.[/QUOTE]
Someone already made that gun for sniper:
[img]http://wizard.gamebanana.com/img/ss/srends/_1300-.jpg[/img]
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[QUOTE=Left_4_Pills;31683893]But Demoman...D-Demomen, would have been spamming dynamites and Medic has a huge fucking needle that probably doesn't go in your arm.[/QUOTE]
The way the dynamite worked originally, you couldn't spam it.
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