Would anyone actually use the trading system if it were to be implemented?
[QUOTE=TMlord95;16646470]It does more damage, but only when it is much closer. it makes you useless with a group of enemies.
[b] If you're a scout you shouldn't be taking on groups anyway[/b]
It takes almost twice as long to reload Shot-for-Shot. If we made it less efective, lets see what would happen.
[b]Well a longer reload time wouldn't be good at all I've decided. So a damage nerf would make it more balanced.[/b]
-Pyros get easy kills on scouts due to the fact we are used to Fan-N-Run
[b]Get yourself out of bad habits. If you use the scout's Scattergun to take on a pyro you are doing it wrong. Pistol pistol pistol[/b]
-Everyone will return to the scattergun, making fan a worthless unlock.
[b]Old FAN still had its uses[/b]
-Defensive scouts will get less knockback, thus destroying that playstyle completely.
[b]Since when does less damage = less knockback[/b]
-Less people in general will play scout, making for even more stand stills on CTF maps.
[b]No, less dumbass noobs will play scout because their easy button will be taken away.[/b]
-And many more.
[b]If "many more" refers to points that are actually relevant I'd really love to hear them[/b]
Edit: Hmm, I wonder what numb-nuts gave me a box. :D
[b]That would be me, because most if not all of your points are terrible arguments[/b][/QUOTE]
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I think we'll see some of those changes from the Beta that the competitive players have been testing.
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;16646342]Except not really. The FAN does more damage than the scattergun AND has the knockback. It's too easy to two-shot any class to death.
And to top it off, the "long reload time" which is supposed to be its downfall isn't really long at all.[/QUOTE]
Why do people always forget that the FAN is kinda missing 4 of the bullets the scatter has.
[QUOTE=GetCatTonight;16647258]Why do people always forget that the FAN is kinda missing 4 of the bullets the scatter has.[/QUOTE]
I didn't. And it doesn't matter all that much. It really doesn't take that long to reload at all.
It takes 2 seconds to reload that thing. Do you even play scout?
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;16647290]I didn't. And it doesn't matter all that much. It really doesn't take that long to reload at all.[/QUOTE]
But you still have to reload 4 shots before a non-fan user has to.
I do and with the current damage output the FAN has the reload time isn't nearly enough to compensate
Come to think of it making the reload time any longer would suck, so a lower damage output would be just fine
[QUOTE=scout-on-a-train;16647316]But you still have to reload 4 shots before a non-fan user has to[/quote]If i remember correctly, couldn't you shoot without a full reload? :D
[QUOTE=TMlord95;16646470]It does more damage, but only when it is much closer. it makes you useless with a group of enemies.
It takes almost twice as long to reload Shot-for-Shot. If we made it less efective, lets see what would happen.
-Pyros get easy kills on scouts due to the fact we are used to Fan-N-Run
-Everyone will return to the scattergun, making fan a worthless unlock.
-Defensive scouts will get less knockback, thus destroying that playstyle completely.
-Less people in general will play scout, making for even more stand stills on CTF maps.
-And many more.
Edit: Hmm, I wonder what numb-nuts gave me a box. :D[/QUOTE]
More pellets = more damage, thus more damage.
FAN up close means an almost instant death, even on a pyro
The scattergun has no knockback
Defensive scouts will not stop using the FAN
I disagree
Please continue.
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[QUOTE=GetCatTonight;16647311]It takes 2 seconds to reload that thing. Do you even play scout?[/QUOTE]
1.4 seconds.
Fan does damage up close, but only up close. And only up to 12 damage more. All this did was make it so that your enemies would stop surviving with ~1-5 hp left, forcing you to finish them off with the bat or pistol.
The only reason people think the FAN is overpowered is cause it's annoying to get hit by.
[QUOTE=GetCatTonight;16647651]Fan does damage up close, but only up close. And only up to 12 damage more. All this did was make it so that your enemies would stop surviving with ~1-5 hp left, forcing you to finish them off with the bat or pistol.
The only reason people think the FAN is overpowered is cause it's annoying to get hit by.[/QUOTE]
I think it's annoying because it is, in fact, a one hit kill on a scout.
No it isn't, it does at most 112 damage. And that's like 1% of the time.
:FaN: should be an emote.
[QUOTE=GetCatTonight;16647731]No it isn't, it does at most 112 damage. And that's like 60% of the time.[/QUOTE]
Fixed
[QUOTE=PCRShade;16647895]:FaN: should be an emote.[/QUOTE]
And it should be :downs: dressed as a scout
I think they might add some new speech. when i was looking around the the .cfg i found melee_dare.wav for the sniper and spy.
Old.
Olde.
Prehistoric.
[QUOTE=Thomo;16643569]You obviously don't know what you are doing in the first place.
ps. heroin.[/QUOTE]
Your avatar is so fucking...
I think it'll be a classless update next. Oh I'm so clever.
about the FaN it was good before because good scouts use pistols 2 shots they fly to mid range an then finish them with pistol durr i mean you have it for a reason
- More domination lines for every class
- Jarate responses for every class
- Finally adjusting the Force Of Irritation and buffing the razorback by 150%
- Making Bonk! not useless in 90% of all situations
- Trading system and more frequent hat drops, the way it is now is just rediculous
- More ways to earn weapons
- Removing that motherfucking DR decloak sound and lowering normal decloak noise (That means still louder for C & D)
- And giving the scout a pancake hat
That is all I want for Christmas/New year/Easter/Hanukkah. :regd09:
- Making Bonk! not useless in 90% of all situations
Oh, fuck, this. This this this. Please this.
Give the pyro back his 50 health buff for his Backburner.
I hope I don't have to explain why...
- Remove the DR uncloak sound
Even better- Make it so you can only hear enemies' DR going off. Swear to god, can't remember how many times we've turned around so fast to spy check when it was our own mate's DR going off.
Does anyone else hope they add the disguise style from Meet the Spy?
[QUOTE=Musicfreak59;16651927]Give the pyro back his 50 health buff for his Backburner.
I hope I don't have to explain why...[/QUOTE]
Get the fuck outta here.
I called it
[QUOTE=Yobdren;16645806]Hill defense gamemode[/QUOTE]
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