[QUOTE=YoYoYoDude;18132892]Get rid of "-developer" in the launch options.[/QUOTE]
thanks
[QUOTE=YoYoYoDude;18132347]Nice config, it works well, but what exactly does the "-high" launch option do?[/QUOTE]
forces tf2 to get high priority so the cpu devotes more resources to it or something
[QUOTE=longears34;18134525]forces tf2 to get high priority so the cpu devotes more resources to it or something[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I never knew a command like that existed.
[QUOTE=Ermandfa;18128154]Holy fucking shit, go get a job and buy a 60 dollar video card. Almost anything at that price can run this game on med/high.[/QUOTE]
Hey cool, I love how incorrect you are. I'm running what would be a '60' dollar video card. Can't even run TF2 on Low. I've heard a $100 dollar card will run the game barely at high.
Go flame elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Galeopus;18134987]Hey cool, I love how incorrect you are. I'm running what would be a '60' dollar video card. Can't even run TF2 on Low. I've heard a $100 dollar card will run the game barely at high.
Go flame elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Left4Dead,Marque_fbrandx4,Prix_fpricex0b100,1454.html]A 1680x1050, 4AA, 8AF, Very High Quality L4D benchmark.[/url]
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127448]The lowest priced card on the benchmark on newegg.[/url]
I limited it to ATI only because I'm pretty sure TF2/Source in general is built to perform best on ATI cards. Now, the benchmark is for L4D, but it still stands. The card runs L4D at 1680x1050, 4AA, 8AF, Very High Quality with approximately 40 FPS. TF2 would probably run close to that at the same settings. And anything above 60 FPS is overkill because your monitor can't refresh faster than that. The human eye is said to see at about 24 FPS, so a stable 40 is good and gives you a nice balance between quality and performance.
And look at the card. It's only $65. So there you go, a $60 dollar card that can [i]probably[/i] run TF2 at high.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;18135873][url=http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Left4Dead,Marque_fbrandx4,Prix_fpricex0b100,1454.html]A 1680x1050, 4AA, 8AF, Very High Quality L4D benchmark.[/url]
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127448]The lowest priced card on the benchmark on newegg.[/url]
I limited it to ATI only because I'm pretty sure TF2/Source in general is built to perform best on ATI cards. Now, the benchmark is for L4D, but it still stands. The card runs L4D at 1680x1050, 4AA, 8AF, Very High Quality with approximately 40 FPS. TF2 would probably run close to that at the same settings. And anything above 60 FPS is overkill because your monitor can't refresh faster than that. The human eye is said to see at about 24 FPS, so a stable 40 is good and gives you a nice balance between quality and performance.
And look at the card. It's only $65. So there you go, a $60 dollar card that can [i]probably[/i] run TF2 at high.[/QUOTE]
I apologize, but it's very noticeable when my FPS dips below 40 FPS. You are very correct about refresh rates, however.
I currently run [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131173[/url] at 1920x1200 (it runs just as sluggish on 1680x1050).
However, I doubt you have ever played on such a card. It is extremely annoying when any card dips below say, 70 FPS (I cap my FPS at 60 so it's usually around 40~) and frankly, I'd rather have a comfortable gameplay as opposed to something that cannot handle combat (or rather, 6 other characters running around on the screen) comfortably.
Graphic cards are all rather unrelated to performance, anyway. Q6600 should be ample power for such a non-demanding game, but apparently, it's not.
[QUOTE=Galeopus;18136290]I apologize, but it's very noticeable when my FPS dips below 40 FPS. You are very correct about refresh rates, however.
I currently run [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131173[/url] at 1920x1200 (it runs just as sluggish on 1680x1050).
However, I doubt you have ever played on such a card. It is extremely annoying when any card dips below say, 70 FPS (I cap my FPS at 60 so it's usually around 40~) and frankly, I'd rather have a comfortable gameplay as opposed to something that cannot handle combat (or rather, 6 other characters running around on the screen) comfortably.[/QUOTE]
My previous card was an nVidia GeForce 5500, I know what it's like to have to play on low graphics and stutter even then. And then when that burned out, I got a GeForce 2 series until I got a new computer for Christmas. I know FPS drops can be noticeable and annoying but it's pretty stupid to run your game at the lowest possible configuration to get an incredibly high FPS that you can't even notice, when you can run the game stably at a lower FPS and higher quality.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;18136351]My previous card was an nVidia GeForce 5500, I know what it's like to have to play on low graphics and stutter even then. And then when that burned out, I got a GeForce 2 series until I got a new computer for Christmas. I know FPS drops can be noticeable and annoying but it's pretty stupid to run your game at the lowest possible configuration to get an incredibly high FPS that you can't even notice, when you can run the game stably at a lower FPS and higher quality.[/QUOTE]
Well, you are correct on most of your points, but I disagree, my FPS is rather stable during combat, and thus, I'm able to make a backstab, or sidestab instead of missing entirely (I exclusively play Spy).
[QUOTE=biodude94566;18135873]The human eye is said to see at about 24 FPS, so a stable 40 is good and gives you a nice balance between quality and performance.[/QUOTE]
Any higher than 72 is overkill. I just read quick scientific analysis. Cinematic features run at 24 FPS because with the movie being the brightest thing in the room, the afterimage effect allows motion blur if I understand correctly. However, [url]http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_1.html[/url] just read the durn article...
[QUOTE=NiteCyper;18145353]Any higher than 72 is overkill. I just read quick scientific analysis. Cinematic features run at 24 FPS because with the movie being the brightest thing in the room, the afterimage effect allows motion blur if I understand correctly. However, [url]http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_1.html[/url] just read the durn article...[/QUOTE]
Reading through that was interesting and I can see your point, but there's another factor you have to take into consideration - the refresh rate of the monitor. Monitors and TV's actually differ in refresh rate in Europe and the US because of the powerline frequency. I have my notes somewhere but I'm not going to dig them up for specifics, but the gist of it is that monitors and TV's can only refresh either half or twice as fast as the powerline frequency, which is usually given as the Hz. So a monitor with 60 Hz can only refresh at 60FPS or something like that. I don't remember specifics, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Thinking about it, refresh rate might also be equal to hertz. I forget.
[QUOTE=haksword;18116601]That's not a proper FPS config ^
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA7My2hWywQ[/media]
This is a proper FPS config
This is what i have played on since they released the classless update.[/QUOTE]
You do know that mat_showlowresimage (or whatever the command is) does fuck all to help your FPS, right?
Ok, just a question before I fuck anything up: where can I get the settings I currently use, so they won't be lost the moment I execute this thing. i know I can set them back, but I'd rather do it with one click of a button.
[QUOTE=Caps lock;18146546]You do know that mat_showlowresimage (or whatever the command is) does fuck all to help your FPS, right?[/QUOTE]
People automatically assume that if it looks worse, the FPS is higher.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;18145502]Reading through that was interesting and I can see your point, but there's another factor you have to take into consideration - the refresh rate of the monitor. Monitors and TV's actually differ in refresh rate in Europe and the US because of the powerline frequency. I have my notes somewhere but I'm not going to dig them up for specifics, but the gist of it is that monitors and TV's can only refresh either half or twice as fast as the powerline frequency, which is usually given as the Hz. So a monitor with 60 Hz can only refresh at 60FPS or something like that. I don't remember specifics, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Thinking about it, refresh rate might also be equal to hertz. I forget.[/QUOTE]
Umm, hooray for 75 Hz refresh-rate monitors? Refresh-rate is expressed in Hertz, no? VSync.
So do I just copy pasta this all in the autoexe file?
[QUOTE=Man in the Moon;18156581]So do I just copy pasta this all in the autoexe file?[/QUOTE]
Yep.
Alrighty, I use a modified version of this under my new card. 9800 GT 1 GB, 16x AA, mat_picmip -10, r_rootlod 0, HVM models, etc. on 1920x1200 (capped at 59/60).
...and I must say that I was wrong. This runs fucking great.
[media]http://myimg.us/images/11.09.09/11850.jpg[/media]
EDIT: [media]http://myimg.us/images/11.09.09/11853.jpg[/media]
Wow, I thought after using this the game would be unbearable, but I'm pushing 120 fps and the graphics aren't as bad as i expected, great work!
[QUOTE=Pink Spy;18291449]Wow, I thought after using this the game would be unbearable, but I'm pushing 120 fps and the graphics aren't as bad as i expected, great work![/QUOTE]
Thanks. ;3
[QUOTE=haksword;18116601]That's not a proper FPS config ^
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA7My2hWywQ[/media]
This is a proper FPS config
This is what i have played on since they released the classless update.[/QUOTE]
Wow.. That looks terribad.
It doesn't help your fps though.
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[QUOTE=Galeopus;18289277]Alrighty, I use a modified version of this under my new card. 9800 GT 1 GB, 16x AA, mat_picmip -10, r_rootlod 0, HVM models, etc. on 1920x1200 (capped at 59/60).
...and I must say that I was wrong. This runs fucking great.
[media]http://myimg.us/images/11.09.09/11850.jpg[/media]
EDIT: [media]http://myimg.us/images/11.09.09/11853.jpg[/media][/QUOTE]
mat_picmip -10 does nothing without cheats.
[QUOTE=Smashman;1829611]5mat_picmip -10 does nothing without cheats.[/QUOTE]
Really? Had no idea.
[QUOTE=Galeopus;18297923]Really? Had no idea.[/QUOTE]
Actually it does. But anything above mat_picmip 2 won't work without sv_cheats 1.
[QUOTE=haksword;18116601]That's not a proper FPS config ^
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA7My2hWywQ[/media]
This is a proper FPS config
This is what i have played on since they released the classless update.[/QUOTE]
i want that. how did you do that?
[QUOTE=BassB;18298130]i want that. how did you do that?[/QUOTE]
Simple, buy the Wii version
[QUOTE=BassB;18298130]i want that. how did you do that?[/QUOTE]
Find out yourself. D:
[QUOTE=Galeopus;18301704]Find out yourself. D:[/QUOTE]
that was not my question. i asked how he did it, not some smart ass comment.
[QUOTE=BassB;18301743]that was not my question. i asked how he did it, not some smart ass comment.[/QUOTE]
umad
This cfg saved my Spy Career.
I <3 you.
[QUOTE=Smashman;18384398]This cfg saved my Spy Career.
I <3 you.[/QUOTE]
Anytime. :3
Thank you for the script, it increased my fps a lot and isn't overkill on graphics. YOU RULE! :buddy:
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