September 21, 2011 Beta Patch (Second Misc and Loadout Saving) - Games

also in the beta team colored paints are now referenced to as such. [quote] Removed "paintable" "1" Added "paintable_team_colors" "1" [/quote] That's what happened to all the team colored paints. This leads me to believe some items may be restricted to just team colored paint.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454948]also in the beta team colored paints are now referenced to as such. That's what happened to all the team colored paints. This leads me to believe some items may be restricted to just team colored paint.[/QUOTE] erry day fixing the artstyle

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626]- Some kind of "Expiration Date" was added as an attribute[/QUOTE]Not to sound overly worried but what the hell is this and do we know what it could be applied to?

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;32454330]Sandvich is OP? You're funny[/QUOTE] Using the primary function it's not bad But being able to toss Sandviches to yourself for 150hp is pretty broken

here's the exact schema entry for it { "name": "expiration date", "defindex": 302, "attribute_class": "expiration_date", "min_value": 0.000000, "max_value": 0.000000, "effect_type": "neutral", "hidden": true, "stored_as_integer": true } Also they also reworded the Overhealers old coding for unknown reasons Was: "description_string": "+%s1% more max overheal"," Is now: ""description_string": "%s1% more overheal","

[QUOTE=Political Gamer;32454980]Not to sound overly worried but what the hell is this and do we know what it could be applied to?[/QUOTE] Maybe it's pointing to a loaning system? You could give someone a weapon/hat to use for a certain period of time before its returned back to your account.

The Cow Mangler thing is old FYI. They use the system they use to paint hats in order to colour the Cow Mangler for Blu and Red players, thus saving on space by not having to use 2 textures, or 1 larger one. Also, are you sure that the expiration date thing isn't for summer/winter keys and summer coolers, things like that?

[QUOTE=Randdalf;32456221] Also, are you sure that the expiration date thing isn't for summer/winter keys and summer coolers, things like that?[/QUOTE] it was just added with the beta patch a few days ago.

[QUOTE=Randdalf;32456221]The Cow Mangler thing is old FYI. They use the system they use to paint hats in order to colour the Cow Mangler for Blu and Red players, thus saving on space by not having to use 2 textures, or 1 larger one.[/QUOTE] Close. The Cow Mangler originally used VMT commands (it still does, afaik) to control "default" paintability, like an unpainted hat, and the command in items_game that allows players to paint it (but only in team colours) is new.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626] - Heroes Hachimaki is a "Face" item, meaning no glasses can be worn with it.[/QUOTE] is it a misc now?

[QUOTE=Corporal Yippie;32456645]is it a misc now?[/QUOTE] no, it just takes the face "conflict group", I guess you could call it. It seems to be an effort to fix a lot of clipping issues some hats have with misc items.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626] ...is a whole head change, meaning no cosmetics on the face can be worn at all... ...- Same for Anger (no more Villain's Veil + Anger) [/QUOTE] Welp. Looks like it's time to get rid of my Anger. [sp]no pun intended[/sp] At least let me be able to use Deus Specs or something :<

Anger is a whole head, it cannot equip any misc items on the head at all (which means no Deus Spec either). Weird that the Dragonborn Helmet is also a fully face replacement. I would have thought Head + Face would have been enough to prevent clipping, since that's what the Spine Chilling Skull is set to.

You don't know how much I want this in normal TF2 now. I hope they add this VEEERY soon.

So what does this mean? We won't see cool combos like the Pyromancer+Deus Specs anymore?

Pyromancer is considered a hat, you can equip any misc you want with it

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32457052]Pyromancer is considered a hat, you can equip any misc you want with it[/QUOTE] I thought it was getting changed to misc. My bad.

[QUOTE=Randdalf;32456221]The Cow Mangler thing is old FYI. They use the system they use to paint hats in order to colour the Cow Mangler for Blu and Red players, thus saving on space by not having to use 2 textures, or 1 larger one.[/QUOTE] Textures will an alpha mask (for the paint) use the same memory as two textures without masks. Unless they intend to make it paintable at some point it was rather pointless doing it as it offers no benefits. You also got the fact it can only change one colour so you couldn't, for example, have red with red yellow and blue with blue yellow.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626] - Spine Chilling Skull is considered a "Hat" and a "Face" meaning face miscs can't be used (but beards can) - Steel jaw is a beard lol.[/QUOTE] Hewl ye. Also are the Beak and Physician's mask in complementary slots? (As in can they be used together?)

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626] - Lord Cockswane's Beard is a face and beard item, meaning no Hachimaki and the Beard (not that most people would do that combo anyway). This sadly means it isn't equippable with the Honcho's Headgear [/QUOTE] Oh good lord no. My dream of honcho's+cockswain's+fancy dress up in smoke...

Well I don't know about you guys, but it seems this 2nd misc slot is doing more bad to the customization system than it is doing good. Hopefully this'll get changed because the restrictions are a bit too much fro me.

[QUOTE=AntorkaDelta;32457111]Hewl ye. Also are the Beak and Physician's mask in complementary slots? (As in can they be used together?)[/QUOTE] Blighted Beak = Face Physicians Mask = Beard they're compatible To find out what slot a specific item is, just go here [url]http://git.optf2.com/schema-tracking/commit/?id=922f40f19e109c9e1f9934d9003868390199e732[/url] And search for the item's name. It's not the "real" name, but rather, what the GCF call it, so I guess you need to know that info. I also noticed a few weapons have cosmetic slots assigned to them. The Gunslinger takes the "arm" slot, for example.

[QUOTE=Rozzy85;32457084]Textures will an alpha mask (for the paint) use the same memory as two textures without masks. Unless they intend to make it paintable at some point it was rather pointless doing it as it offers no benefits. You also got the fact it can only change one colour so you couldn't, for example, have red with red yellow and blue with blue yellow.[/QUOTE] Well... two textures with RGB is 6 images, 1 with RGBA is 4. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=AntorkaDelta;32457111]Hewl ye. Also are the Beak and Physician's mask in complementary slots? (As in can they be used together?)[/QUOTE] I think Screaming Gerbil said that they can't be used together which is sad really. Dangit ninja'd and screaming gerbil lied.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32454626] - Some kind of "Expiration Date" was added as an attribute [/QUOTE] Erm, isn't this just like the winter and summer crates? They expire after a date?

Yea, but this was recently added [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] I just found a Dapper Topper in the beta ;_;

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32459155]Yea, but this was recently added [editline]24th September 2011[/editline] I just found a Dapper Topper in the beta ;_;[/QUOTE] Hopefully it was added recently as an 'attribute' for future special crates. Or something. Christ I really hope so.

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This is suddenly looking like a bad thing. Why do they have to add restrictions anyways? Why not just let us equip whatever we want with whatever?

[QUOTE=scotty-furs;32459738]This is suddenly looking like a bad thing. Why do they have to add restrictions anyways? Why not just let us equip whatever we want with whatever?[/QUOTE] atrocious clipping?