Hated Orgination/Clan Servers - Games

According to one hapless eGOlyte I interrogaited, eGO is paying paid for by some company... suspicious... Or just erecting his ePeen?

[QUOTE=Eva-1337;16754659]According to one hapless eGOlyte I interrogaited, eGO is paying paid for by some company... suspicious... Or just erecting his ePeen?[/QUOTE] Probably "sponsorship" from their parents as 12 year olds do not have a stable income.

[QUOTE=Dryvnt;16754241]So let's say you're at your friends house. Your friend has a 'no shoes inside' rules, and you're all cool with that. I then gets late and you have to visit your grandma because she has gotten operated for cancer. You then go to the hospital, go inside with your shoes on as you do on a hospital and visit your grandma. The next day your friend does not want you in HIS house because you have walked in a house/building owned by SOMEONE ELSE, with shoes on. That is how I see it.[/QUOTE] The difference is that in a clan you represent your clan while wearing that tag. If eGO members went around to other servers swearing and breaking their own clan's rules, they're disrespecting the clan and giving it a "bad name". Not to say eGO has a good name or is worthy of respect, but this is a pretty common idea. You go by your clan's code of conduct pretty much at all times.

[QUOTE=Aurora93;16753824]Somebody needs to band together, go on an EGO server, and then spam chat with cuss words and spam HLSS with this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MMuS7WQj0[/media][/QUOTE] I watched the video and looked at your avatar. I don't know why that was funny but it was.

eGo is horrible, and I'm not a fan of any server where the players take their clan seriously. My clan's motto is "pull up a chair, have fun." We're about the least competitive you can find.

[QUOTE=Cidem;16725784]Ego If Those HoLLa patrol TEAM ROOMBA wannabes have a server, them[/QUOTE] couldnt handle itin the holla patorlservehtr [editline]01:28PM[/editline] also more ego drama who gives afuck anymore really

Oh haha they call themselves a mature gaming community. [IMG]http://www.edgegamers.org/forums/egov4/header/header_logo.png[/IMG]

@Dr.Nick So it can make the person more violent regardless of age. And I would respond and quote things that you said if you made it even semi-easy to make a response to you, I don't know why you follow this weird format of bold letters inside their quote, but I'm not going to respond to it anymore. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16750943]If the story is fabricated, and worse than the actual event, then they should have never been removed from the clan. Because to me, the story is short, sweet, and simple: The clan is being too strict.[/QUOTE] What i'm saying is, that they come on to facepunch saying they were more strict then they were. Ex. "I said damn on another server and I got permabanned from all of eGo" Or, a more accurate example being that they leave out details, just as what they said, who really reported them, etc. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16750943]Let's say I own a store. I have clear rules posted at the doors that, in my store, there will be no racism, sexual/religious/etc. intolerance, and no swearing. Now. A man comes into my store, drops an item on his foot, and swears. Do I have the right to kick this man out of the store? No. He has only made one minor incurence. At most, I can give him a warning. If his "unlawful" behavior continues, he will be kicked.[/QUOTE] I'll ignore your analogy and go straight into the meat of it. I have a server where it clearly says "No swearing" I have the RIGHT to ban you for whatever reason I feel. If I don't want people using curse words on the server because my children play there, then I'm going to make it clear by baning anyone who excessively curses, and kick anyone who does it by accident. They will straighten up if they want to play by my rules, and if they don't they can leave. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16750943]Yes. The second argument specifically only applies to servers. You stated it yourself IN your argument.[/QUOTE] It doesn't apply to only their servers, if people in their clan go to other servers and curse and then talk about it later and how they went crazy in other servers then the kids are going to pick it up and do the same. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16750943]If a parent is creating a server in an M rated (for swearing, violence, etc.) game for their child that shouldn't be playing the game in the first place, it's still their fault. It's still bad parenting. Again, though, this argument [i]only applies to servers, as stated above.[/i][/QUOTE] Their kid shouldn't be playing it because ESRB thinks that fantasy violence makes you violent in real life. This isn't true, and if you are their to correct the child in real life it should be a quick and easy lesson. They are creating a server where their kids can play without hearing niggerfaggot thrown around and people yelling fuck over the mic. I don't see the problem. But apparently 99% of facepunch does when go into their servers and begin to grief and get banned for it. "HURF DURF I got banned for disrupting gameplay just spawn camping the admin because he kicked me for cursing, maybe I shouldn't be such a raging pompous ass in the first place" "HURF DURF I got kicked for saying damnit, and instead of accepting their rule of no cursing I went back and bitched at the admin using the word fuck every other word, how cool am I?"

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16757621] :words: [/QUOTE] You're going quite in depth, why the hell do you care so much?

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16757621]Their kid shouldn't be playing it because ESRB thinks that fantasy violence makes you violent in real life. This isn't true, and if you are their to correct the child in real life it should be a quick and easy lesson.[/QUOTE] Still, the game is rated for older players, and the children shouldn't be allowed to play it. If the parents care enough to set up whole servers to protect their little kids from the evil words, they should care enough to punish their child if he swears. Also, the admins on eGO are banning people for personal reasons, like dominating the admin or killing them or not preforming tactic Z when they say you should. My 2c

[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;16757734]You're going quite in depth, why the hell do you care so much?[/QUOTE] It's fun arguing, and it doesn't take much time. Plus, I think you're all wrong, and I'd like to correct that. [editline]03:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=scout-on-a-train;16757878]Still, the game is rated for older players, and the children shouldn't be allowed to play it. If the parents care enough to set up whole servers to protect their little kids from the evil words, they should care enough to punish their child if he swears. Also, the admins on eGO are banning people for personal reasons, like dominating the admin or killing them or not preforming tactic Z when they say you should. My 2c[/QUOTE] What reason is "still". I don't see any other reason why the kid can't play the game as long as he isn't exposed to swear words, and as long as he knows that the violence is fantasy. And if they care enough to make the servers, of course they are going to care enough to correct them in real life. You aren't a parent and neither am I, but I'm sure a parent would rather nip the source of the problem at the bud rather then just correcting the problem later. They probably do correct the problem later anyways because their always is people not listening to their rules, ignoring and disrespecting the people who run the servers.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16757621]I'll ignore your analogy and go straight into the meat of it. I have a server where it clearly says "No swearing" I have the RIGHT to ban you for whatever reason I feel. If I don't want people using curse words on the server [B]because my children play there[/B][/QUOTE] Then you are a bad parent who buys games rated unfit for your children. And you need to grown up and accept they will learn to swear anyway, if the game contains swearing why block it? Next thing you know eGO will ban for all forms of gore from the game too. Which means EVERYONE who kills is banned.

[QUOTE=scout-on-a-train;16757878]Still, the game is rated for older players, and the children shouldn't be allowed to play it. If the parents care enough to set up whole servers to protect their little kids from the evil words, they should care enough to punish their child if he swears. Also, the admins on eGO are banning people for personal reasons, like dominating the admin or killing them or not preforming tactic Z when they say you should. My 2c[/QUOTE] I have played on eGO servers for a over a year and half and that has NEVER happened ONCE.

[QUOTE=Ermandfa;16757964]I have played on eGO servers for a over a year and half and that has NEVER happened ONCE.[/QUOTE] People also have got hats from the idler, but I've ran it for around three months now, and I haven't got a single hat from it :argh:

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16757884]It's fun arguing, and it doesn't take much time. Plus, I think you're all wrong, and I'd like to correct that. [editline]03:04PM[/editline] What reason is "still". I don't see any other reason why the kid can't play the game as long as he isn't exposed to swear words, and as long as he knows that the violence is fantasy. And if they care enough to make the servers, of course they are going to care enough to correct them in real life. You aren't a parent and neither am I, but I'm sure a parent would rather nip the source of the problem at the bud rather then just correcting the problem later. They probably do correct the problem later anyways because their always is people not listening to their rules, ignoring and disrespecting the people who run the servers.[/QUOTE] No one's really listening to you and we all think you're wrong so uh gg

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;16758018]No one's really listening to you and we all think you're wrong so uh gg[/QUOTE] Did you even read the thread? [QUOTE=hexpunK;16757955]Then you are a bad parent who buys games rated unfit for your children. And you need to grown up and accept they will learn to swear anyway, if the game contains swearing why block it? Next thing you know eGO will ban for all forms of gore from the game too. Which means EVERYONE who kills is banned.[/QUOTE] Tell me why parents can buy their kids M rated games if they teach that the violence is fantasy and that the cursing is not how you should speak.

I think its a clear consensus that EgO sucks. Lets talk about something else. I refuse to rejoin any server which hasn't gotten out of its head that the whole RickRoll thing is long gone and has lost its funny factor.

[QUOTE=AxisofIdiocy;16757169]couldnt handle itin the holla patorlservehtr [/QUOTE] what is this i dont even [editline]01:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=hexpunK;16757955]Then you are a bad parent who buys games rated unfit for your children. And you need to grown up and accept they will learn to swear anyway, if the game contains swearing why block it? Next thing you know eGO will ban for all forms of gore from the game too. Which means EVERYONE who kills is banned.[/QUOTE] Besides nobody likes playing with children, tell them to go play the Wii or something

[QUOTE=Cidem;16758381]Besides nobody likes playing with children, tell them to go play the Wii or something[/QUOTE] My dad did when I was quite young.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16758425]My dad did when I was quite young.[/QUOTE] Your Dad liked you? Or your Dad told you to play the Wii? Or your Dad played the Wii? :confused:

[QUOTE=hexpunK;16758478]Your Dad liked you? Or your Dad told you to play the Wii? Or your Dad played the Wii? :confused:[/QUOTE] Sorry. My dad and I spent many hours playing call of duty united offensive. We were a good team for getting the flag and getting it back.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16757621]I'll ignore your analogy and go straight into the meat of it. I have a server where it clearly says "No swearing" I have the RIGHT to ban you for whatever reason I feel. If I don't want people using curse words on the server because my children play there, then I'm going to make it clear by baning anyone who excessively curses, and kick anyone who does it by accident. They will straighten up if they want to play by my rules, and if they don't they can leave.[/quote] You take this "absolute power" thing too far. Just because you own the clan and want people to act a certain way doesn't mean you have every right to try and correct everyone's behavior to your standards. Kicking someone for one swear one time is still too strict. You give them a warning, and if they continue, then you punish them. Let's say you're a parent, and that you do have a kid, and you don't want him swearing. He picks up "fuck" from somewhere, and uses it. Do you go all out and spank him? Or do you give him a warning that if he continues, you'll spank him? [quote]It doesn't apply to only their servers, if people in their clan go to other servers and curse and then talk about it later and how they went crazy in other servers then the kids are going to pick it up and do the same.[/quote] FOR FUCKS SAKE. You [i]specifically said, [b]IN YOUR OWN ARGUMENT[/b], that it's for servers.[/i] [quote]Their kid shouldn't be playing it because ESRB thinks that fantasy violence makes you violent in real life. This isn't true, and if you are their to correct the child in real life it should be a quick and easy lesson. They are creating a server where their kids can play without hearing niggerfaggot thrown around and people yelling fuck over the mic. I don't see the problem. But apparently 99% of facepunch does when go into their servers and begin to grief and get banned for it. [/QUOTE] If you're going to say that violence in video games (fantasy/cartoon, or otherwise) does [i]not[/i] make a child more prone to being violent, back it up with sources. Where's the study? What're the statistics? Et cetera. I'm going to bring up two key points, although one is rather against my argument: The ESRB's ratings are only supposed to be a recommendation system, letting parents take a quick look at what is in a game, and recommend what age range should be playing this game. While this system is enforced in stores by not allowing anyone under the recommended age purchase the game, it is not absolute. The ESRB does not rate online multiplayer due to the unpredictability of the game play and interactions with other players. But it is safe to assume that the game play with be at least the same as what it is rated, if not higher.

[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;16758109]I think its a clear consensus that EgO sucks. Lets talk about something else. I refuse to rejoin any server which hasn't gotten out of its head that the whole RickRoll thing is long gone and has lost its funny factor.[/QUOTE] Which is why I disable downloaded sounds so I don't have to hear that if our team loses in under 4 minutes or if they have Quake sounds. If I wanted to hear "Dominating!" every minute I'd go play Quake/Unreal Tournament.

[QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]You take this "absolute power" thing too far. Just because you own the clan and want people to act a certain way doesn't mean you have every right to try and correct everyone's behavior to your standards. Kicking someone for one swear one time is still too strict. You give them a warning, and if they continue, then you punish them.[/QUOTE] Oh, i'm not saying that because they own the servers they are justified in doing whatever they want, i'm saying they have the right to. They can do whatever they want. And they are justified in placing in whatever rules they want. They are not justified in going to other servers and telling them how to play, but they can do whatever they want in their server. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]Let's say you're a parent, and that you do have a kid, and you don't want him swearing. He picks up "fuck" from somewhere, and uses it. Do you go all out and spank him? Or do you give him a warning that if he continues, you'll spank him?[/QUOTE] I think you need to start learning not to use analogies, every analogy you've given so far is flawed. This one is flawed because spanking him is physical pain, and is only used for the serious offenses. Kicking does not involve physical pain, and isn't used for the worst of offenses. Now baning someone for saying damnit once would be excessive, and that would be correlating to spanking. They aren't known to do that. And even if they were, it still wouldn't be too excessive as it would definitely drive the point home that they don't want cursing in their server. Who cares if you get banned for a day for saying damnit? Just play on another server that lets you curse. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]FOR FUCKS SAKE. You [i]specifically said, [b]IN YOUR OWN ARGUMENT[/b], that it's for servers.[/i][/QUOTE] I don't see your point. Go ahead and quote me and pull out your argument a bit better. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]If you're going to say that violence in video games (fantasy/cartoon, or otherwise) does [i]not[/i] make a child more prone to being violent, back it up with sources. Where's the study? What're the statistics? Et cetera.[/QUOTE] It doesn't work that way. I don't need to prove something false, you need to first prove that violent videogames cause people to be more violent. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]I'm going to bring up two key points, although one is rather against my argument: The ESRB's ratings are only supposed to be a recommendation system, letting parents take a quick look at what is in a game, and recommend what age range should be playing this game. While this system is enforced in stores by not allowing anyone under the recommended age purchase the game, it is not absolute.[/QUOTE] I know this.. I don't see your point. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761379]The ESRB does not rate online multiplayer due to the unpredictability of the game play and interactions with other players. But it is safe to assume that the game play with be at least the same as what it is rated, if not higher.[/QUOTE] And this is for any multiplayer game. Because a parent cares enough and knows enough that a chosen few people on the internet are total dickheads they will create a server that goes by their rules, to keep the kid in a safe zone where he doesn't need to fill his vocabulary full of "niggerfaggotfuckshittitty"

[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;16761447]Which is why I disable downloaded sounds so I don't have to hear that if our team loses in under 4 minutes or if they have Quake sounds. If I wanted to hear "Dominating!" every minute I'd go play Quake/Unreal Tournament.[/QUOTE] Is there a way to permenantly disable them? I hate disabling Quake sounds every time I join No Heroes.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;16761569]Oh, i'm not saying that because they own the servers they are justified in doing whatever they want, i'm saying they have the right to. They can do whatever they want. And they are justified in placing in whatever rules they want. They are not justified in going to other servers and telling them how to play, but they can do whatever they want in their server.[/quote] So if I make a server and have the most obscene, stupid rules, it's justified? If I say "every other word said on this server must be racist or a curse", I am justified in making this, just because I paid for the server? [quote]I think you need to start learning not to use analogies, every analogy you've given so far is flawed. This one is flawed because spanking him is physical pain, and is only used for the serious offenses. Kicking does not involve physical pain, and isn't used for the worst of offenses. Now baning someone for saying damnit once would be excessive, and that would be correlating to spanking. They aren't known to do that. And even if they were, it still wouldn't be too excessive as it would definitely drive the point home that they don't want cursing in their server. Who cares if you get banned for a day for saying damnit? Just play on another server that lets you curse.[/quote] Or maybe you need to not take the analogies literally. And I dunno what standards you were raised by, but I remember I would get warned not to do something, and if I continued, I'd get spanked, taken to the car, etc., until I could behave. And yes, banning someone for swearing once (even a short while), is excessive. As well, if you get banned from a server you were actually having fun on, it does matter. I don't want to be kicked/banned from a server just because I swore once,when I was having a good time on the server. Hell, I hate being kicked/banned from servers, period, unless it's a terrible server. [quote]I don't see your point. Go ahead and quote me and pull out your argument a bit better.[/quote] [quote][b]ANY rule on their server can be inplace regardless of how silly or ironic it might be, it is their servers, and they pay for their servers,[/b] so you coming in there and saying "I want to play by these rules, and i'm not going to listen to the people who pay for this server" is immature and retarded.[/quote] Done. [quote]It doesn't work that way. I don't need to prove something false, you need to first prove that violent videogames cause people to be more violent.[/i] Now you're just admitting defeat. This is much like a religion saying "X deity exists because you can't disprove it". The burden of source is on you. Violent video games making people violent is commonly accepted as true, so if you want to prove it's NOT true, then YOU have to prove it with sources.

[QUOTE=OutOfExile;16761746]Is there a way to permenantly disable them? I hate disabling Quake sounds every time I join No Heroes.[/QUOTE] Well, I don't actually [I]disable[/I] them, I just turn "Do not download custom sounds" on. I wish games like TFC/Sven-Coop had that option, I hate downloading 50 sounds every time I join a server. :argh:

[QUOTE=biodude94566;16761990]So if I make a server and have the most obscene, stupid rules, it's justified? If I say "every other word said on this server must be racist or a curse", I am justified in making this, just because I paid for the server?[/quote] Yes, it is justified, because you don't have to play there, and they want to play there by there rules. There are plenty of servers, and if you can't play by their chosen rules at there group of servers, then there are plently of others to play. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761990] Or maybe you need to not take the analogies literally. And I dunno what standards you were raised by, but I remember I would get warned not to do something, and if I continued, I'd get spanked, taken to the car, etc., until I could behave. And yes, banning someone for swearing once (even a short while), is excessive.[/quote] Tell me how it is excessive. You know that they don't want cursing, you choose to do it anyways, and they ban you for it. Regardless, this is all based on a "what if", to my knowledge they've never banned anyone for saying damnit. If you want to apply this to real life, you could say that the rule listing was the warning. [QUOTE=biodude94566;16761990]As well, if you get banned from a server you were actually having fun on, it does matter. I don't want to be kicked/banned from a server just because I swore once,when I was having a good time on the server. Hell, I hate being kicked/banned from servers, period, unless it's a terrible server.[/quote] Hardluck for you then, I for one am not like you, I don't care if I'm banned from a server for breaking a rule because it is their rules and I didn't obey them. [quote]Done.[/quote] Right, and if they don't want you representing their clan breaking their own rules on different servers they are allowed to ban you from their servers and remove your membership from the clan. They have every right and justification to do so. [quote]It doesn't work that way. I don't need to prove something false, you need to first prove that violent videogames cause people to be more violent. Now you're just admitting defeat. This is much like a religion saying "X deity exists because you can't disprove it". The burden of source is on you. Violent video games making people violent is commonly accepted as true, so if you want to prove it's NOT true, then YOU have to prove it with sources.[/QUOTE] It's funny how you are saying that I'm the one saying "X deity exists because it can't be disproven" because that's exactly what you are doing, learn your burden of proof.

Everything is tl;dr now. ):

[QUOTE=Imperials ^^;16762440]Everything is tl;dr now. ):[/QUOTE] Agreed, I don't give a fuck what that one guy is saying to defend eGO. I don't even know his name, poor fucker.