I'm okay with the fact that you can buy items now. - Games

[QUOTE=DatWut?;25180521]Let's make it short: Let's see this as donation system for Valve being fucking awesome and delivering awesome patches for free. In return for donating to them, you get a hat of your choice...[/QUOTE] This, forever.

The only other thing that you can only get by buying is the Key, Ellis Cap and Man co cap. Regardless that the Ellis cap is nifty, that's not a big loss. Valve is still Valve, its natural that they should try to earn some money from their efforts.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;25180455]We can, the only kinds of paint you cant find is black paint and white paint, but you can find them in one of those crates[/QUOTE] Yesterfay I saw a grey one dropping, it's confirmed?

a few major flaws here: -Achievements no longer give weapons -Achievements are now dumbed down and use fucking less -The new weapons are ridiculously OP -Every server is a tradefest -The set bonuses are utter horseshit summary: fuck this update

[QUOTE=NotMeh;25192592]a few major flaws here: -Achievements no longer give weapons -Achievements are now dumbed down and use fucking less -The new weapons are ridiculously OP -Every server is a tradefest -The set bonuses are utter horseshit summary: fuck this update[/QUOTE] -Since when have achievements--in any game--been useful? -OP? Hell no. Besides, this has been said about every other update. -I suppose you were complaining about all the snipers after the sniper update too? -Set bonuses are balanced against ONLY being able to use the weapons in the set. summary: fuck your opinions.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;25192592]a few major flaws here: -Achievements no longer give weapons -Achievements are now dumbed down and use fucking less -The new weapons are ridiculously OP -Every server is a tradefest -The set bonuses are utter horseshit summary: fuck this update[/QUOTE] Went to 7 servers and only traded once. Your argument is invalid my fine sir.

[QUOTE=LetsGroove;25180295]I agree. [editline]08:27PM[/editline] I also don't get why people complain about this. It's only 2 dollars, or trade it.[/QUOTE] Can't trade purchased items. It should at least drop, but be pretty rare (Not hat rare, though)

[QUOTE=Lance99;25192547]Yesterfay I saw a grey one dropping, it's confirmed?[/QUOTE] All colors except for black and white drop

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- I want to buy the Rocket Jumper and the GRU but you need to pay but 10 instead of 5 -.-

What is so special about black and white?

I love the new Paint

The rocket jumper drops, right?

Haha, just had a chat to my friend... [quote=Steam Chat]Lord Hayden: What do you think of the new microtransactions in TF2...? Friend: They're bullshit. I hate them. Lord Hayden: Any paticular reason as to why you came to think that? Friend: I brought the Polycount pack for $49.99. Lord Hayden: And? You got all your items didn't you? Friend: Yeah, and I got a special item with it because I spent over $20 in one transaction Lord Hayden: That sounds good... Friend: It was a fucking Eyelander. :([/quote] Haha, this made me laugh.

[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;25192697]What is so special about black and white?[/QUOTE] They look super-stylish on some hats, I would love to have a white Fancy Fedora

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;25192754]They look super-stylish on some hats, I would love to have a white Fancy Fedora[/QUOTE] Ohh, I like style... :smile: I don't like big pricestags though... [editline]07:11PM[/editline] Also, what is the Rocket Jumper?

I traded heaps of metal for a supply crate, bought the key then opened it to reveal A SCOTTISH RESISTANCE!!!

[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;25192768] Also, what is the Rocket Jumper?[/QUOTE] A rocket launcher with nearly unlimited ammo, no blast damage to yourself, but does no damage to other people. Basically, a training weapon.

[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;25192768]Ohh, I like style... :smile: I don't like big pricestags though... [editline]07:11PM[/editline] Also, what is the Rocket Jumper?[/QUOTE] The key is only 2.50$

[QUOTE=HyperTails;25192794]A rocket launcher with nearly unlimited ammo, no blast damage to yourself, but does no damage to other people. Basically, a training weapon.[/QUOTE] Why would you want that? Seems useless in combat... [editline]07:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Laserbeams;25192814]The key is only 2.50$[/QUOTE] You mean paint? $2.50 for a bit of cosmetics is a $2.50 too much. I would buy it however, if it was reusable.

I have no problem with the store. What I do have a problem with is the fact hats are needed for sets. That is what gives people with money an advantage over me.

So a sniper who's immune to headshots, but cant deal out heatshots and takes more fire damage is an advantage? Besides Valve said they were going to add craft blueprints for the set hats so I wouldn't worry too much.

[QUOTE=Lord Hayden II;25192962]Why would you want that? Seems useless in combat... [editline]07:28PM[/editline] You mean paint? $2.50 for a bit of cosmetics is a $2.50 too much. I would buy it however, if it was reusable.[/QUOTE] No, I mean the key is, but the paint is $2.50

[QUOTE=Dance_Commander;25193637]So a sniper who's immune to headshots, but cant deal out heatshots and takes more fire damage is an advantage? Besides Valve said they were going to add craft blueprints for the set hats so I wouldn't worry too much.[/QUOTE] If you don't have the hat equipped, you're still vulnerable to fire and can't headshot from the weapons. The moment you equip the hat, the only thing that's added is immunity to headshots. It's the same for the Scout and Soldier packs.

What actually happened is that Valve introduced item set bonuses that are ENTIRELY unobtainable through regular play, unless you have thousands of hours to waste idling/playing the game praying that you'll be given the one or two specific items you need so that you can get a straight up bonus.

[QUOTE=postmanX3;25196467]What actually happened is that Valve introduced item set bonuses that are ENTIRELY unobtainable through regular play, unless you have thousands of hours to waste idling/playing the game praying that you'll be given the one or two specific items you need so that you can get a straight up bonus.[/QUOTE] But some item set bonuses are completely overpowered. "Immune to head shots," that [i]should[/i] take thousands of hours to obtain. For me, at first I was mad. Valve has always given us free stuff and never gone where others had to make money. But now that I think about it, Valve has given us tons and tons of free stuff, deals, and discounts. If valve charged what they easily could have for everything they've given us, it would cost more than everything in the Mann Co. Store combined. Valve deserves every penny they make off of this, it just feels weird when we're used to nothing like this from Valve. A lot of relief came to me when I figured out that the bundles weren't on "sale," they just show you what it costs separate and what you save. When I thought the polycount pack cost 134 bucks normally I was raging.

[QUOTE=Kentz;25182616]if another company but valve did the same you would all complain microtransactions sucks[/QUOTE] Must you bitch about [i][b][u]ANYTHING[/i][/b][/u] tf2 related? I mean come on.