Sydney Sleeper sounds like crap. - Games

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;25169758]I'm not sure how a tranq gun applies piss to people Are the darts filled with piss? That would mean the victim is getting sniper's piss injected into his bloodstream[/QUOTE] Maybe charged darts explode on impact. Poisoning somebody's blood stream with Jarate must do the damage, the darts alone don't have the same lethal power as a bullet. Or just maybe Valve couldn't fart out a fitting mechanic for the "Sidney SLEEPER" with TRANQUILIZER darts in time. Many things that were delivered still need touch-ups, new killicons, taunts, heck even some of the older weapons still need those.

[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;25162228]I no longer want this weapon than. It would have been a great combo with that new big knife but now its shit.[/QUOTE] My exact feelings. It sounded like a perfect weapon for someone like me, but since it requires scoping and charging to apply the jarate, the jarate effect is so negated that this weapon just feels like a regular sniper rifle without the ability to get headshots.

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;25172744]Or just maybe Valve couldn't fart out a fitting mechanic for the "Sidney SLEEPER" with TRANQUILIZER darts in time.[/QUOTE] They took the tranq gun out of the game for a reason, I highly doubt they'd add it back in just because someone who made an excellent weapon all but demanded the weapon's stats revolve around a tranq effect.

Charged shot + noscope spam on Heavy = Dead heavy.

[QUOTE=Lijitsu;25172949]They took the tranq gun out of the game for a reason, I highly doubt they'd add it back in just because someone who made an excellent weapon all but demanded the weapon's stats revolve around a tranq effect.[/QUOTE] Well they do have stuns (Sandman) and slowing effects (Natasha, Shortstop). Not saying I need more of those effects, but it would have made more sense this way.

[B]I love it[/B]. It's so good for 'marking' oncoming heavies or medics (or both) for your teammates. It also feels like you crit a lot more with it. Before I got it, I always felt so useless as a sniper. Now I'm actually contributing!

[QUOTE=Maximo13;25172998]Charged shot + noscope spam on Heavy = Dead heavy.[/QUOTE] With a regular sniper rifle charged shot = dead heavy. [sp]If it doesn't, you suck.[/sp]

In my opinion, the sleeper shouldn't need to charge to jarate, it should always jarate under any circumstance, the charge should just determine the DURATION of the coating.

[QUOTE=Bragdras;25256959]In my opinion, the sleeper shouldn't need to charge to jarate, it should always jarate under any circumstance, the charge should just determine the DURATION of the coating.[/QUOTE] thisthisthisthisthis

I like it the way it is. Snipers being able to magically tag you with their crit-inducing piss at any distance is already a horrible thing; it would be nightmarish if they could do it immediately.

If it's not fully charged is the jarate chance random? Sometimes a non fully charged shot will jarate an enemy, sometimes it wont

It has to be like 30% in order to give the jarate effect.

[QUOTE=Bragdras;25256959]In my opinion, the sleeper shouldn't need to charge to jarate, it should always jarate under any circumstance, the charge should just determine the DURATION of the coating.[/QUOTE] Yeah, this would be so much better

You guys aren't thinking balance, but rather "Wow, this would be cool if I was playing sniper". It'd be extremely cheap if it allowed you to nonestop coat everyone in jarate. Taking full mini-crits is a pretty major thing.

Its actualy a good weapon, especially when you use it in conjunction with the SMG, dealing fast minicrits can bring down lots of enemies fast, a few fast shots after a jarate charged shot can also bring down a heavy. [editline]10:11PM[/editline] Trust me ive done it. [editline]10:12PM[/editline] Dont even let me tell you how good a combo the [del]Piss O' Matic 2,000[/del] Sydney Sleeper, SMG, and the Tribalmans shiv is. [editline]10:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;25169758]I'm not sure how a tranq gun applies piss to people Are the darts filled with piss? That would mean the victim is getting sniper's piss injected into his bloodstream[/QUOTE] What you dont see is the needle is made of a very brittle glass that contains a lot of jarate, and apon impact detonates and coats the enemy in a ton of urine.

you can shoot through multiple people and walls, how isnt this good

^ This.

Give it a week or two, Valve almost always changes the stats on new weapons

[QUOTE=FEARME!;25260016]Give it a week or two, Valve almost always changes the stats on new weapons[/QUOTE] They had better not nerf the Powerjack, its much easier to use the axetinguisher, they will make it useless if they do.