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[QUOTE=Scarabix;33008928]Edgy? Is that all you could come up with? A half of the people who play TF2 hate reskins. Being part of that 50% isn't being edgy. In that logic, I could accuse you of trying to be conservative for liking reskins that are the same old weapons. Just like halloween engie and soldier sets.[/QUOTE] 69% of statistics are made up on the spot. Mind telling me where did you get that statistic from or did you make that up on the spot based on your own opinion

How is this still open?

[img]http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/chudtsankov/chudtsankov1004/chudtsankov100400533/6905773-man-traffic-director-holding-a-stop-sign-background.jpg[/img] i am sick of all of you

Instead of blindly ripping into Scarabix, how about some of you [purportedly more intelligent posters] start formulating a decent counter-argument stating why reskins are amazing?

Well, you dont HAVE to use them.

[QUOTE=marcus5;33008952]69% of statistics are made up on the spot. Mind telling me where did you get that statistic from or did you make that up on the spot based on your own opinion[/QUOTE] Actually, at least 50% of the people hate them. All my friends were dissapointed by the lack of new stats last night, and I heard most of spuf was raging over reskins. [QUOTE=Black;33008984]Well, you dont HAVE to use them.[/QUOTE] But I still HAVE to download them. And I WOULD use them, if they had stats. [QUOTE=Lord Exor;33008976]Instead of blindly ripping into Scarabix, how about some of you [purportedly more intelligent posters] start formulating a decent counter-argument stating why reskins are amazing?[/QUOTE] They do not care about the content of this thread. All they care about is shoving their e-peen in mediocre posters' face.

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;33008976]Instead of blindly ripping into Scarabix, how about some of you [purportedly more intelligent posters] start formulating a decent counter-argument stating why reskins are amazing?[/QUOTE]Our argument doesn't have to be the complete converse of their argument, I'm just saying reskns aren't the game breaking, world ending, puppy killing abortion scarabix makes them out to be

[QUOTE=Scarabix;33008991]Actually, at least 50% of the people hate them. All my friends were dissapointed by the lack of new stats last night, and I heard most of spuf was raging over reskins.[/QUOTE] Spuf rages over everything, and all of your friends ≠ half of TF2.

[QUOTE=Black;33008984]Well, you dont HAVE to use them.[/QUOTE] You don't [I]have[/I] to use anything, even weapons with stats. You don't [I]have[/I] to play this game either. So what's your point exactly?

[QUOTE=FeartheMango;33008951][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0[/media][/QUOTE] Look! an all purpose reaction video! I cannot take all the wittiness! [QUOTE=Uzbekistan;33009003]Our argument doesn't have to be the complete converse of their argument, I'm just saying reskns aren't the game breaking, world ending, puppy killing abortion scarabix makes them out to be[/QUOTE] Your hyperbole is pointless, all I said is that I didn't like them, and I have not heard a lot of people who supported them.

[QUOTE=Scarabix;33009023]Look! an all purpose reaction video! I cannot take all the wittiness![/QUOTE] Fuck Yeah! I WON AN INTERNET WIT BATTLE! I AM THE GREATEST!

A company focusing more on things they need to do literally nothing to do that will generate massive amounts of profit? Gee, I wonder why they'd do that!

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;33008723]1. You basically have to get close with heavy anyway[/QUOTE] Actually, it's an option, not that you [b]have[/b] to get close. Heavy is a defense class, specializing in a denial of area playstyle with his powerful minigun and high health, basically a massive blockade. Yes, Heavy [b]can[/b] go offensive, or even go in an ambush playstyle with the Tomislav, but his true potential is defense. It's better to fire at enemies from afar, potentially pinning them down. [QUOTE]2. You wouldn't have to adopt a new play style if it's an optional weapon[/QUOTE] True, but the point is that you [b]can[/b], and if it's not balanced well it's not going to be used much, making it useless. [QUOTE]3. No one said it had to be primary[/QUOTE] True again, but the issues at hand is that a chainsaw would likely have to be charged up first, which may make it a primary. The only other solution would be to make a minigun that has a chainsaw slapped on, at the cost of something else. (Lower health etc.)

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;33009015]You don't [I]have[/I] to use anything, even weapons with stats. You don't [I]have[/I] to play this game either. So what's your point exactly?[/QUOTE] I dont get the fuzz about it, its not a gameplay changing flaw at all, and you dont have to use it, so ... um.. isnt the solution to NOT use them then?

[QUOTE=Uzbekistan;33009003]Our argument doesn't have to be the complete converse of their argument, I'm just saying reskns aren't the game breaking, world ending, puppy killing abortion scarabix makes them out to be[/QUOTE] You're hyperbolizing his argument to create a strawman. He's simply expressing concern over a recent trend. [QUOTE]I dont get the fuzz about it, its not a gameplay changing flaw at all, and you dont have to use it, so ... um.. isnt the solution to NOT use them then?[/QUOTE] You are forced to download it though, meaning that hard drive space is occupied with ultimately inconsequential content.

[QUOTE=Scarabix;33008991]Actually, at least 50% of the people hate them. All my friends were dissapointed by the lack of new stats last night, and I heard most of spuf was raging over reskins.[/QUOTE] Well all of my friends have no problems with reskins, and none of my friends were disappointed by the lack of new stats yesterday. Thus I conclude that everyone has no problems with reskins and the lack of new weapons. See the problem here? Your friends and SPUF does not equal everybody. And you should know SPUF is notorious for whining. Why don't you see posters in spuf exclaiming that they have no problems with reskins? Bottom like being that your "statistics" are plain wrong and are just your opinion.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;33009035]A company focusing more on things they need to do literally nothing to do that will generate massive amounts of profit? Gee, I wonder why they'd do that![/QUOTE] I don't have anything against that, but why would they make 3 nearly consecutive major updates consisting (weapon wise) only of that? [QUOTE=Black;33009042]I dont get the fuzz about it, its not a gameplay changing flaw at all, and you dont have to use it, so ... um.. isnt the solution to NOT use them then?[/QUOTE] Yeah, and I've been forced to download 3 updates of stuff I won't use.

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;33008976]Instead of blindly ripping into Scarabix, how about some of you [purportedly more intelligent posters] start formulating a decent counter-argument stating why reskins are amazing?[/QUOTE] You do not understand. Just because one hates/dislikes reskins does not mean that we must formulate an argument on why reksins are amazing. We might just be players who have no problems with reskins.

[QUOTE=marcus5;33009053]Well all of my friends have no problems with reskins, and none of my friends were disappointed by the lack of new stats yesterday. Thus I conclude that everyone has no problems with reskins and the lack of new weapons. See the problem here? Your friends and SPUF does not equal everybody. And you should know SPUF is notorious for whining. Why don't you see posters in spuf exclaiming that they have no problems with reskins? Bottom like being that your "statistics" are plain wrong and are just your opinion.[/QUOTE] May I remind you that it was Uzbekistan that was assuming I was just being edgy in the first place, thus assuming that the people who disliked reskins were marginal?

Its 2 model files, probably lods and anim + materials and a update to the item scheme, I dont think it will take so extra long to download when the whole update takes 5 minutes max to download for most people.

Holidays Reskins are a good thing. They do not break the game mechanics or they do not cause huge debates like the polycount sets or Natascha (and many others) did. They follow a theme and give people a strong reason to play the game during this event, they are funny (but that's just personal opinion, i agree). Also, i don't think getting new weapons too often is a good thing, the players need time to get used to new things, new mechanics. I have to say i mostly play with Vanilla weapons, so that may interfere with my judgement, but still, I think most people will agree on this, Valve is wise enough to not throw new stats in the game like every months, and i'm grateful for this. Also, why do you think a Halloween update should give us weapons? It's a celebration, so i find quite logical to see only cosmetic item being added to the game. One last thing : stop whining so hard about free stuff. I hope people won't mind my badly formulated english.

[QUOTE=Scarabix;33008887]That is the definition of faggot, not faggotry. He was insulting me for who I am: a mediocre poster. So I reply by insulting him for what he is: a faggot brony[/QUOTE] [url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Faggot[/url]

[QUOTE=Black;33009124]Its 2 model files, probably lods and anim + materials and a update to the item scheme, I dont think it will take so extra long to download when the whole update takes 5 minutes max to download for most people.[/QUOTE] But why do they have to hype these updates so much if there is not going to be any items that will affect gameplay? Of course, the map is great, the costumes are funny, but valve seems to have forgotten why they updated the game in the first place. [QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;33009154][url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Faggot[/url][/QUOTE] I have never heard of this site. What tells me it's viable?

Because they want their players to have a good time. [editline]28th October 2011[/editline] In the end, it's not about hats or maps, or ghosts, or giant axe-wielding horsemen, or massive eyeballs, it's about the fun everybody gets from them.