Fortress' Edge (TF2 Parkour) - Games

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253227]I've finally awoken and given it some thought. The stuff will be removed within 48 hours (got exams and its a bit of a major project, hence the delay). What ever Max has said about our friendship, I really do care about him and the work he has done for me and for that I want to thank him. The fact that all of this happened may have made me a bit lightheaded. Sorry. It's unfortunate that stuff ends all tied up like this. I feel personally hurt by the accusations from people associated with MaxOfS2D, especially since these people don't know me. I don't agree with MaxOfS2D but I respect the fact that he's speaking out about it, although it would've been nicer had he said he was displeased with something while it was actually happening. Naturally I'll be seeking alternatives in regards to the people who purchased Max stuff, if not possible then at least a refund. Thanks.[/QUOTE] That's not what you said before.. But whatever, atleast you decided to apologize.

[QUOTE=NateDude;34253375]So this project is dead. Nightmare Fortress is dead. A shitton of Max content, making up the amazing of the servers is gone. And advanced weaponizer is only fun for [I]so long[/I]. fffffuck[/QUOTE] Not all hope is lost, mecha can still apology properly to max Or someone else can start similar projects with a different name

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253227]I've finally awoken and given it some thought. The stuff will be removed within 48 hours (got exams and its a bit of a major project, hence the delay). What ever Max has said about our friendship, I really do care about him and the work he has done for me and for that I want to thank him. The fact that all of this happened may have made me a bit lightheaded. Sorry. It's unfortunate that stuff ends all tied up like this. I feel personally hurt by the accusations from people associated with MaxOfS2D, especially since these people don't know me. I don't agree with MaxOfS2D but I respect the fact that he's speaking out about it, although it would've been nicer had he said he was displeased with something while it was actually happening. Naturally I'll be seeking alternatives in regards to the people who purchased Max stuff, if not possible then at least a refund. Thanks.[/QUOTE] I find it extremely amusing that you only post this after Max goes offline. I also find it even more amusing that comments were being removed, videos were being set to "Comment Approval", and activity was being preformed on the SLAG Forums while you were "asleep." A ghost must have done it.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253227]I've finally awoken and given it some thought. The stuff will be removed within 48 hours (got exams and its a bit of a major project, hence the delay). What ever Max has said about our friendship, I really do care about him and the work he has done for me and for that I want to thank him. The fact that all of this happened may have made me a bit lightheaded. Sorry. It's unfortunate that stuff ends all tied up like this. I feel personally hurt by the accusations from people associated with MaxOfS2D, especially since these people don't know me. I don't agree with MaxOfS2D but I respect the fact that he's speaking out about it, although it would've been nicer had he said he was displeased with something while it was actually happening. Naturally I'll be seeking alternatives in regards to the people who purchased Max stuff, if not possible then at least a refund. Thanks.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/YoIPy1.gif[/IMG] This apology feels slightly backhanded. Still, it's an apology... I think.

[QUOTE=Paradox_Qc;34253370]So he did talk to you about it. Its not because it wasnt "a big deal" that you had to act like you did.[/QUOTE] I don't know what you mean by 'act like I did' because all I did was decline at the time (unless you're talking about now).

Even though Max is in the right for some reason I feel like hes giving an asshole vibe into his posts. Sorry dude.Just saying what I'm feeling. Hope Mecha brings down your stuff from the server

Glad to see a little bit of resolution. I just woke up and saw the shit that was going on in Max's tumblr.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253227]I've finally awoken and given it some thought. The stuff will be removed within 48 hours (got exams and its a bit of a major project, hence the delay). What ever Max has said about our friendship, I really do care about him and the work he has done for me and for that I want to thank him. The fact that all of this happened may have made me a bit lightheaded. Sorry. It's unfortunate that stuff ends all tied up like this. I feel personally hurt by the accusations from people associated with MaxOfS2D, especially since these people don't know me. I don't agree with MaxOfS2D but I respect the fact that he's speaking out about it, although it would've been nicer had he said he was displeased with something while it was actually happening. Naturally I'll be seeking alternatives in regards to the people who purchased Max stuff, if not possible then at least a refund. Thanks.[/QUOTE] The moment we were all waiting for. Alright people it's over now so we can stop lurking here and move on with our lives until Max gets back.

[QUOTE=PYC128;34253667]The moment we were all waiting for. Alright people it's over now so we can stop lurking here and move on with our lives until Max gets back.[/QUOTE] Sad thing is, i think we will be having some people pressing F5 for a good while waiting for Max to come online.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253635]I don't know what you mean by 'act like I did' because all I did was decline at the time (unless you're talking about now).[/QUOTE] Oh, you want to know what i mean by "Act like you did"?. He asked you to take down a video with his face on it, you didnt. He ask you some explanation why you didnt gave the wings to Rebb or something like that, i didnt understand all that part of the story but i know Rebb should have received the wings in question. Plus, you gave them to someone else that wasnt suppose to receive them. Also, he asked you to take down his work and the work of Rebb off your servers before he posted it all over his tumblr and guess what, you didnt give 2 shit about it. Thats what i mean by "Act like you did".

What I'm interested in is the future of the gamemode. Will it be abandoned?

[QUOTE=Paradox_Qc;34253823]Oh, you want to know what i mean by "Act like you did"?. He asked you to take down a video with his face on it, you didnt. He ask you some explanation why you didnt gave the wings to Rebb or something like that, i didnt understand all that part of the story but i know Rebb should have received the wings in question. Plus, you gave them to someone else that wasnt suppose to receive them. Also, he asked you to take down his work and the work of Rebb off your servers before he posted it all over his tumblr and guess what, you didnt give 2 shit about it. Thats what i mean by "Act like you did".[/QUOTE] Actually, I told Max I would remove everything if he made a proper post here on Facepunch and on Slag Gaming explaining why he was taking it off (I'm sure he'll verify this). He didn't do so in the last part, despite given several opportunities. Then he proceeded with the tumblr, YouTube, Twitter and Facepunch stuff, at which point I realized he was never going to do it. But I digress. [QUOTE=zombojoe;34253902]What I'm interested in is the future of the gamemode. Will it be abandoned?[/QUOTE] No, but there probably won't be much activity in this topic specifically in the future. You can check out the [url=http://mechatheslag.net/gaming/forumdisplay.php?fid=6]forum section[/url] where there's updates almost daily!

[QUOTE=Silversoda;34246392]This touched me deeply. Thank you for sharing[/QUOTE] You're quite welcome my good sir. Anywho, I think we can all learn something from this. Don't make mods if you can't cooperate with your fellow devs. This is how great mods die. Remember the that one WW1 mod everyone was hyped for? Dead because the devs couldn't get along. Now this has spiraled down that same path.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253922]Actually, I told Max I would remove everything if he made a proper post here on Facepunch and on Slag Gaming explaining why he was taking it off (I'm sure he'll verify this). He didn't do so in the last part, despite given several opportunities. Then he proceeded with the tumblr, YouTube, Twitter and Facepunch stuff, at which point I realized he was never going to do it. But I digress. No, but there probably won't be much activity in this topic specifically in the future. You can check out the [url=http://mechatheslag.net/gaming/forumdisplay.php?fid=6]forum section[/url] where there's updates almost daily![/QUOTE] And if he didn't do what you asked then what? Would you hold all of his and Rebb's content hostage? Why should he justify having you remove the content he made if he doesn't want it on there?

[QUOTE=Demon!;34253962]And if he didn't do what you asked then what? Would you hold all of his and Rebb's content hostage? Why should he justify having you remove the content he made if he doesn't want it on there?[/QUOTE] It seemed like a reasonable request considering he would be the one setting the project back.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253922]Actually, I told Max I would remove everything if he made a proper post here on Facepunch and on Slag Gaming explaining why he was taking it off (I'm sure he'll verify this). [/QUOTE] Still, you are only talking about 1 of the 3 situations I gave. I dont know if what you are saying is true but lets say it is, you still acted like an asshole (In my opinion) when he asked you to take down the video and also asked you to give the wings to Rebb.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34253998]It seemed like a reasonable request considering he would be the one setting the project back.[/QUOTE] Reasonable or not, if Max doesn't think that his content should be hosted on your servers anymore then that's his decision. I really don't think you should've been making requests in this situation, especially when he's asked for perfectly reasonable things in the past from you to which you've never acquiesced.

[QUOTE=Paradox_Qc;34254013]Still, you are only talking about 1 of the 3 situations I gave. I dont know if what you are saying is true but lets say it is, you still acted like an asshole (In my opinion) when he asked you to take down the video and also asked you to give the wings to Rebb.[/QUOTE] I don't understand the entire wings situation. Max and Rebb made the femscout and (greatly) insisted that I put it on the server. Out of generousity, I wanted to reward them, so I gave them a shiny model each. Max really liked the sparkles, for the record. Once when they were gone (due to a glitch), he got quite upset. Max and Rebb made the director skin and once again, greatly insisted that I put it on the server. Once again, I award them both a shiny version each. Max slaps wings on to the femscout. Rebb had, from what I was told, not much if anything to do with it. Yes, she helped with the femscout, and that's why she got a shiny femscout. She didn't appear to need a shiny version in this case. I award Max a shiny version. He doesn't appear upset about the decline to give Rebb one. He explicitly suggests it could be used to award to donators or good community members. Tristy, Slag Gaming member, helps me get all the fastdownload services back up and running. A major job without pay, and I award the person a wing femscout. Max explodes in anger. I don't know what I did wrong.

And the video? Whats your excuse for this one?

[QUOTE=Paradox_Qc;34254068]And the video? Whats your excuse for this one?[/QUOTE] Nothing. It was a joke that apparently wasn't appreciated. He didn't tell me he wanted it off until the day after (you can even see that he's playing along in the comments on said video). I made it unlisted because I had put quite a lot of work into it. Max didn't like it. I made it private. Max is still not happy despite the fact that no one but myself can view it. I didn't want to delete it because Max seemed at this point very demanding. Not just in this case, but in general. He always wanted me to do stuff instantly, while I have been busy with either exams or other projects. I felt like it wasn't his issue as long as it wasn't viewable to the public, thus no one could see it.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254052]I don't understand the entire wings situation. Max and Rebb made the femscout and (greatly) insisted that I put it on the server. Out of generousity, I wanted to reward them, so I gave them a shiny model each. Max really liked the sparkles, for the record. Once when they were gone (due to a glitch), he got quite upset. After all, you're the one who's all about "reasonable requests." Max and Rebb made the director skin and once again, greatly insisted that I put it on the server. Once again, I award them both a shiny version each. Max slaps wings on to the femscout. Rebb had, from what I was told, not much if anything to do with it. Yes, she helped with the femscout, and that's why she got a shiny femscout. She didn't appear to need a shiny version in this case. I award Max a shiny version. He doesn't appear upset about the decline to give Rebb one. He explicitly suggests it could be used to award to donators or good community members. Tristy, Slag Gaming member, helps me get all the fastdownload services back up and running. A major job without pay, and I award the person a wing femscout. Max explodes in anger. I don't know what I did wrong.[/QUOTE] It was a simple request, why didn't you just grant it? After everything the two of them have done for you, you couldn't just let Rebb have the wings? After all, you seem to love "reasonable requests."

[QUOTE=Demon!;34254111]It was a simple request, why didn't you just grant it? After everything the two of them have done for you, you couldn't just let Rebb have the wings?[/QUOTE] The idea with awarding these shiny models is that they're only awarded to the creators. Rebb wasn't the creator (or co-creator) in this case. edit: You could argue that because Rebb helped with the femscout, she deserved femscout + wings. I actually never thought of it that way, and Max never brought it up. In fact, he never insisted that she should have it. He asked once and I declined. That's all there was to it. Though these awards are an act of generousity, not a demand. I have no obligation to do it, and Max knows that.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254120]The idea with awarding these shiny models is that they're only awarded to the creators. Rebb wasn't the creator (or co-creator) in this case.[/QUOTE] If Max had truly suggested what you said, then doesn't Rebb fall under "good community members" or "donators" regardless? It was the work from the both of them combined that got you the traffic and donations to your server. They've been good to you, I can't think of one reason why you wouldn't just be nice and let them have it.

[QUOTE=Demon!;34254163]If Max had truly suggested what you said, then doesn't Rebb fall under "good community members" or "donators" regardless? It was the work from the both of them combined that got you the traffic and donations to your server. They've been good to you, I can't think of one reason why you wouldn't just be nice and let them have it.[/QUOTE] I've never spoken with Rebb in person, I've only met her once or twice on a server for a short period of time. I don't know how much she contributed, and it's difficult to think of her as a donator / community member when it's someone you hardly know but by name. I also want to emphasise that nowhere in the proccess did I make any promises of anything. They did it out of generousity (I assume) and now I am getting scolded for not being as generous back as I "should have been". If they didn't like the way I repaid them, they had every chance to leave.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254120]The idea with awarding these shiny models is that they're only awarded to the creators. Rebb wasn't the creator (or co-creator) in this case. edit: You could argue that because Rebb helped with the femscout, she deserved femscout + wings. I actually never thought of it that way, and Max never brought it up. In fact, he never insisted that she should have it. He asked once and I declined. That's all there was to it. Though these awards are an act of generousity, not a demand. I have no obligation to do it, and Max knows that.[/QUOTE] It sounds like the real problem isn't about digital items, but that you are treating Max like your fanboy instead of an equal. You're like an elementary school principal who rewards his teachers with gold star stickers.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254189]I've never spoken with Rebb in person, I've only met her once or twice on a server for a short period of time. I don't know how much she contributed, and it's difficult to think of her as a donator / community member when it's someone you hardly know but by name.[/QUOTE] Okay. So then let's pretend Rebb hasn't contributed much, or very little at all (which is silly) Why couldn't you just do it as a favor to Max? He wanted something special for a good friend of his that would show his appreciation, so why not just be a good person and do it for the guy that's worked so hard on this stuff? Why is that so hard for you? He was your partner in all of this, without him, I'm sure none of what you currently have would have happened, aside from Advanced Weaponizer. From the looks of it, he didn't even ask for a share of the donations he's received. You couldn't just give the guy this one thing?

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254189] I don't know how much she contributed, and it's difficult to think of her as a donator / community member when it's someone you hardly know but by name.[/QUOTE] Yeah she made two models used in the Slag servers and those two models give you money to keep the server up and running.

[QUOTE=Demon!;34254216]Okay. So then let's pretend Rebb hasn't contributed much, or very little at all (which is silly) Why couldn't you just do it as a favor to Max? He wanted something special for a good friend of his that would show his appreciation, so why not just be a good person and do it for the guy that's worked so hard on this stuff?[/QUOTE] Because he was demanding it. I wouldn't be giving it to her out of generousity, he was demanding that I gave her the item. When I declined, he dropped it. Keep in mind that in all the other cases, I had no problem being very generous to these two people. But in this case, it didn't make sense to me at the time. Instead of building up anger, Max could've tried reasoning with why she deserved it. But he didn't.

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254189]I've never spoken with Rebb in person, I've only met her once or twice on a server for a short period of time. I don't know how much she contributed, and it's difficult to think of her as a donator / community member when it's someone you hardly know but by name. I also want to emphasise that nowhere in the proccess did I make any promises of anything. They did it out of generousity (I assume) and now I am getting scolded for not being as generous back as I "should have been". If they didn't like the way I repaid them, they had every chance to leave.[/QUOTE] Yet here you have a content creator WHO does know Rebb...

[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34254235]Keep in mind that in all the other cases, I had no problem being very generous to these two people. But in this case, it didn't make sense to me at the time.[/QUOTE] So there was other cases with these two people, yet, you know one of them only by name and never really heard of her.