[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34273864]Max is trying to DMCA an entire folder which is ridiculous, especially since it does not (and did not at time of filing) contain any of his stuff.
The remaining stuff in there is mine and that's why I'm filing a counter-notification.[/QUOTE]
lol, what an ass. You guys sure Mecha isn't Notch in disguise? The ego's are similar in where they can ground communication satellites with their swollen heads. Wait.. aren't both from Denmark?
/tinfoil hat
EDIT: Seems this "tristy" person is a bit of a questionable person. What with names like "Steam Support Bot" and such from [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/id/tristy1/namehistory"]their name history[/URL].
[QUOTE=stand;34273888]lol, what an ass. You guys sure Mecha isn't Notch in disguise? The ego's are similar in where they can ground communication satellites with their swollen heads. Wait.. aren't both from Denmark?
/tinfoil hat
EDIT: Seems this "tristy" person is a bit of a questionable person. What with names like "Steam Support Bot" and such from [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/id/tristy1/namehistory"]their name history[/URL].[/QUOTE]
Would you kindly get out of this thread please.
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34273864]Max is trying to DMCA an entire folder which is ridiculous, especially since it does not (and did not at time of filing) contain any of his stuff.
The remaining stuff in there is mine and that's why I'm filing a counter-notification.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, listing the exact files in the folders which were to be removed is so filing a claim against the whole folders.
Unless the host misunderstood the initial letter, he did list what was to removed specifically.
But whatever it's a middleman fight now.
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;34273963]Would you kindly get out of this thread please.[/QUOTE]
Would you kindly get bent?
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;34274019]Hey, cut it out.[/QUOTE]
Well, can't argue with sound reasoning such as that. k
[QUOTE=stand;34273995]Would you kindly get bent?[/QUOTE][img]http://www.designthenewbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/moving_box1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34273864]Max is trying to DMCA an entire folder which is ridiculous, especially since it does not (and did not at time of filing) contain any of his stuff.
The remaining stuff in there is mine and that's why I'm filing a counter-notification.[/QUOTE]
I'm willing to believe that you've removed all of my stuff from that folder, but then why did you say in your counter-claim that you "had the source files, but it is copyrighted by Valve Software either way"? Because that sounds like the playermodels mods to me, which is what /parkourfortress/ contain(ed); I have given you their SMDs/QCs in the past.
[QUOTE=stand;34273758]Please teach me in the ways of telling some assholes mindless followers that they are assholes [B]without[/B] sounding like a dick?[/QUOTE]
Well, by not throwing out insults at everybody every passing moment, for starters.
People are more willing to listen to somebody who actually spells out their points and reasons as to why they dislike something than somebody who just insults everyone and then expects everyone to follow them regardless.
[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;34273972]Indeed, listing the exact files in the folders which were to be removed is so filing a claim against the whole folders.
Unless the host misunderstood the initial letter, he did list what was to removed specifically.
But whatever it's a middleman fight now.[/QUOTE]
[i] tf\models\parkourfortress (everything in the directory and the subdirectories; as far as I'm aware, this is only on one of the servers.)[/i]
Max's words (I'm assuming). Which includes stuff like pipes, detail models and whatnot, of which I am the rightful owner to.
Aren't you the one who kept on saying Max couldn't refer to donation stats since you're the only one with access to them? Why are we saying we shouldn't trust Max on non-public info (donations), but trust you on the same (contents of the folder in question)?
[QUOTE=A Noobcake;34274306]Aren't you the one who kept on saying Max couldn't refer to donation stats since you're the only one with access to them? Why are we saying we shouldn't trust Max on non-public info (donations), but trust you on the same (contents of the folder in question)?[/QUOTE]
Don't forget all the servers having a donation tracker in the MOTDs...
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34274263][i] tf\models\parkourfortress (everything in the directory and the subdirectories; as far as I'm aware, this is only on one of the servers.)[/i]
Max's words (I'm assuming). Which includes stuff like pipes, detail models and whatnot, of which I am the rightful owner to.[/QUOTE]
Alright then, but:
1) what I had gotten in that directory from my last connection was only a billboard model. I assume you're talking about the map props; those are not mine AND they're only on the client through the maps (pakrat), hence my mistake. Sorry.
2) If that's YOUR map props you're defending, it still doesn't explain that you said that the copyright was held by Valve in your counter-claim.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34274513]
1) what I had gotten in that directory from my last connection was only a billboard model. I assume you're talking about the map props; those are not mine AND they're only on the client through the maps (pakrat), hence my mistake. Sorry.
[/quote]
No, they also exist on the server, in those specific folders.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34274513]
2) If that's YOUR map props you're defending, it still doesn't explain that you said that the copyright was held by Valve in your counter-claim.[/QUOTE]
I specified this a while ago in a reply; my guess is that you haven't received it yet.
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34274608]I specified this a while ago in a reply; my guess is that you haven't received it yet.[/QUOTE]
My wish has been, and still is to get this mess sorted ASAP. Could you post it here, please?
I'm sure the middleman has some additions so better wait for those.
In addition, while I do believe that it is only fair of you to ask for your stuff to be removed (and that wish being granted), I don't agree with the DMCA on the models. In this case I do not believe you are legally right, but I don't know the specifics, which is why I am investigating the issue.
Also, would you stop attacking me with only half a story? The counter-notification was completely justified yet you blew it out of proportions again.
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34274754]I'm sure the middleman has some additions so better wait for those.
In addition, while I do believe that it is only fair of you to ask for your stuff to be removed (and that wish being granted), I don't agree with the DMCA on the models. In this case I do not believe you are legally right, but I don't know the specifics, which is why I am investigating the issue.[/QUOTE]
On the models? Which models exactly? Because this is kinda what I'm confused about right now
If the DMCA was applied to Max's models (and other content), that's a legal use of DMCA. Keep in mind that he sent it before he knew for sure that his content was removed from the server.
If they are not Max's models... well, hopefully Max didn't get the list wrong or made it too vague (specifying a folder that has more than just Max's models inside). Based on previous posts about the DMCA, it sounds like he specified exactly what was his in the e-mail to the host. If he did specify something that is not his, he has no grounds to request its removal (but hopefully it's a mistake if that's the case).
EDIT: When I say Max's stuff, I mean Rebb's stuff too, since he's speaking for both of them.
Reading the last 3 pages makes me sick. Max claims that I'm claiming his work as mine and everyone jumps the bandwagon? That wasn't at all what the counter-notification was about.
[url=http://mechatheslag.net/gaming/showthread.php?tid=1535]and Max's personal army attacks any opportunity seen fit[/url]
And here we go again?
lol,why even reading this jonas?it's just a random dumb comment i put cuz i'm bored
I wish you two would finally decide if you're gonna have a civil conversation, or are you gonna play keep-away with DMCA threats and stirring up the community
I am on Max's side so far, but I am a bit skeptical about what the counter-notification actually was. Maybe it was written too vaguely, so Max interpreted it incorrectly?
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34275017]Reading the last 3 pages makes me sick. Max claims that I'm claiming his work as mine and everyone jumps the bandwagon? That wasn't at all what the counter-notification was about.
[url=http://mechatheslag.net/gaming/showthread.php?tid=1535]and Max's personal army attacks any opportunity seen fit[/url][/QUOTE]
Hey, you still haven't answered my last question which I've asked a few times already so right now, there's no way to tell
I've already told you it's specified in the email. I'm sure the host will verify my claim in my response so just wait for it.
Get the popcorn out!it's drama time
Yes, here we go.
[QUOTE=Vehlman;34275073]Get the popcorn out!it's drama time[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;34275080]Yes, here we go.[/QUOTE]
Was this really required?
edit: Okaaay i understand all my comments are fucking dumb,i'm just so bored i can only say shit.
[QUOTE=A Noobcake;34274306]Aren't you the one who kept on saying Max couldn't refer to donation stats since you're the only one with access to them? Why are we saying we shouldn't trust Max on non-public info (donations), but trust you on the same (contents of the folder in question)?[/QUOTE]
If I show you a screenshot you could always use the argument that it had been modified. So no, I have no possibly way of confirming this, but neither does Max.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34274513]Don't forget all the servers having a donation tracker in the MOTDs...[/QUOTE]
At no point did it hit the amount you specified. Just stop, it's a pointless argument and none of us can confirm or deny.
:suicide:
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34275142]At no point did it hit the amount you specified. Just stop, it's a pointless argument and none of us can confirm or deny.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure you can ask several SLAG regulars. After all, they see the donation counter every time they connect.
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34275017][url=http://mechatheslag.net/gaming/showthread.php?tid=1535]and Max's personal army attacks any opportunity seen fit[/url][/QUOTE]
boohoo i'm the victim etc etc
[QUOTE=Jonas Kaerlev;34275017]Reading the last 3 pages makes me sick. Max claims that I'm claiming his work as mine and everyone jumps the bandwagon? That wasn't at all what the counter-notification was about.[/QUOTE]
Look, you keep avoiding my question on which models the counter-claim is concerning besides your map props — [highlight]which were indeed included in the initial DMCA claim by error on my part, I sincerely apologize for this and will clear this up with the host[/highlight] — therefore, by deduction, I'm going to assume it is indeed the PF Scout models/skins/animations.
1) Based on all your previous actions since page 14, especially the one which led to me clicking the Send button, I think you may recognize my reaction was nothing short of understandable.
2) You did not make any of the models, skins or animations. You did not even touch one line of the QCs, since I kept sending you the new sources every time you wanted something to be fixed.
3) Rebbacus and I still have the .max and .blender files for every single one of those assets. You only have the SMDs and QCs.
4) Even if the host was to rule in your favor concerning this (because they're derivatives of Valve's original work or something), let me repost something from page 14:
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;34246719]is it hard to just remove some content that the [B][I]creator[/I] of it[/B] asks you to?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Do I need to remind you ONE MORE TIME that if you had held your promise to remove our content when I posted my public statement, we wouldn't be here right now?
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;34275263]Max, should try fixing some of that "[I]collateral damage[/I]". You didn't pull the [B]same[/B] shit as Mecha, you pulled [B]different kind of[/B] shit. You keep on making those bulletins of yours to turn everone against Mecha, which is completely different from making that open letter.[/QUOTE]
Ask yourself if people are turning yourself against Mecha because I "told them to" (which I didn't!) or because they're seeing what is happening because he didn't hold his initial promise.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;34275263]And now it happens to be that he didn't claim your animations as his and you don't even correct yourself. And I'm not talking about just deleting it, but openly stating you were wrong.
And I'm being completely neutral here.
But if I'm wrong, just keep on bashing him.[/QUOTE]
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How are you gonna explain that one now Mecha? "whoops I worded it badly" ?
Why don't you two make another thread called "Drama here (bring popcorn)"?
This [B]WAS[/B] supposted to be thread about the parkour gamemode, and not about two people yelling at each other and everyone keeping it "fun".
Edit: This is "getting" serious, sombody call Sherlock Holmes.
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