[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34287941]edit: it's time to [URL="http://i.imgur.com/ncqwR.png"]grow up[/URL], please[/QUOTE]
Oh boy... Here we go again...
[QUOTE=NateDude;34291268]The new scout look is WAY different from Max's. Sucks that you are now forced to make something completely different.[/QUOTE]
I kinda like this version better actually. Max's was also great, but I personally didn't like the dark team-colours too much.
I like some of Mugen's additions as well, such as the team yellow coloured bags.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34287941][url]http://tf2tip.maxofs2d.net/resources/ambient_occlusion_maps.zip[/url]
courtesy of the team fortress 2 texture improvement project
edit: it's time to [URL="http://i.imgur.com/ncqwR.png"]grow up[/URL], please[/QUOTE]
Thanks Max, I'll take a look whenever I get home today. :)
Please forgive my lack of skill, it's been quite some time since I last did any sort of modding. I spent like 30 minutes gathering the materials I needed again (vtf photoshop plugin, gcfscape, vtfedit, etc)
I promise I'll be working on/improving these.
[QUOTE=MugenOverlord;34292230]Thanks Max, I'll take a look whenever I get home today. :)
Please forgive my lack of skill, it's been quite some time since I last did any sort of modding. I spent like 30 minutes gathering the materials I needed again (vtf photoshop plugin, gcfscape, vtfedit, etc)
I promise I'll be working on/improving these.[/QUOTE]
If you want (more of) my two cents, you should also be working from the [URL="http://tf2tip.maxofs2d.net/downloads/playermodels_prerelease.zip"]actual TF2TIP diffuse materials[/URL].
They're 2048x1024 and completely lossless, whereas the Valve originals are 1024x512 and already compressed — this means your texture will most likely have an awful JPEG-like feel to it by starting off from the Valve VTFs, whereas you'll be doing a 100% fresh start with the TF2TIP ones.
Also, I remember Jonas telling me that team-colored gloves were a no-go because of consistency issues with the viewmodels — interesting to see he's changed his mind on that.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;34292530]If you want (more of) my two cents, you should also be working from the [URL="http://tf2tip.maxofs2d.net/downloads/playermodels_prerelease.zip"]actual TF2TIP diffuse materials[/URL].
They're 2048x1024 and completely lossless, whereas the Valve originals are 1024x512 and already compressed — this means your texture will most likely have an awful JPEG-like feel to it by starting off from the Valve VTFs, whereas you'll be doing a 100% fresh start with the TF2TIP ones.
Also, I remember Jonas telling me that team-colored gloves were a no-go because of consistency issues with the viewmodels — interesting to see he's changed his mind on that.[/QUOTE]
Ooo, shiny. Thanks again.
Honestly view model consistency doesn't seem like a huge issue, but if he really wanted to keep it that way, it's fine. It would make sense for a freerunner to wear handwraps, so I don't see a problem with keeping it. The only problem I have with it then would be just making it look nice.
My only problem with the skins so far is that they seem a bit overly bright and cheery-looking. The original TF2 palette had more darker colors implemented. Even your skins had darkened shirts (although I opted for regular colors to make team ID'ing a nonissue). I've been trying to implement more of that brownish gray from scout's bag, just to introduce some more colors.
I could try the darker team colors again and see what public opinion on those are. I'd like to find some middle ground between easy team ID'ing and... not looking like Play-doh.
I'm gonna keep a list of ideas here for when I get home since I'm a forgetful mofo:
-dark colored rings around the sleeves and collar
-brighten/desaturate the pants for red team at least
-pick up the uncompressed textures and acquire a new AO map for them
-move the flap on the bag down so it's more towards the middle
-Redownload the Normal Map plugin for photoshop and properly normal map the bag's flap
[IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly255qP6TS1r42s8uo1_r1_500.png[/IMG]
This was posted on Max's tumblr. Can I get an explanation?
[QUOTE=aDoctor;34293759][IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly255qP6TS1r42s8uo1_r1_500.png[/IMG]
This was posted on Max's tumblr. Can I get an explanation?[/QUOTE]
As I said before, we should leave them to work this out in private rather than have the public get in on it.
Anyhow, the new skins sound like they're coming along nicely! Maybe put some socks with team colored bands on.
[QUOTE=MugenOverlord;34284167][IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x22/mugenoverlord/promo3.png[/IMG]
Whipped these up for Mecha, hopefully we'll see these on sooner or later?[/QUOTE]
Make the pants lighter than that.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;34294011]As I said before, we should leave them to work this out in private rather than have the public get in on it. [/QUOTE]
Well this already is in public, and I want an explanation for what he has stated.
And also for this:
[IMG]http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8035/screenshot2012011920450.png[/IMG]
This also proves that he planned on not removing/keeping on using the content since the start.
[QUOTE=aDoctor;34294131]Well this already is in public, and I want an explanation for what he has stated.
And also for this:
-snip for length-
This also proves that he planned on not removing/keeping on using the content since the start.[/QUOTE]
Well, unless you're somehow involved in a way I don't know of, neither of them owe you, me or any of us explanations.
[QUOTE=Ericson666;34294248]Well, unless you're somehow involved in a way I don't know of, neither of them owe you, me or any of us explanations.[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't he owe everyone an explanation? He even stated his acts in public so of course he owes the public an explanation.
[QUOTE=aDoctor;34294394]Why wouldn't he owe everyone an explanation? He even stated his acts in public so of course he owes the public an explanation.[/QUOTE]
As you can even see in the quote above, Mecha is the one who made it even more public when he asked Max to, well, post a PUBLIC statement, and then didn't hold his word on removing Rebb's and Max's content from the servers following that.
Do we really need to go through this again? Max's content is not on the servers. The DMCA is all about who is right legally.
We were [I]so close[/I] to getting back on track until Max decided that no, it definitely needs to be put on Tumblr.
While speaking of the actual gamemode, the Hookshot is being reworked to become an actual hookshot, ie. aim->fly towards.
[QUOTE=aDoctor;34293759][IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly255qP6TS1r42s8uo1_r1_500.png[/IMG]
This was posted on Max's tumblr. Can I get an explanation?[/QUOTE]
Is he trying to start more drama by posting this on Tumblr?
[QUOTE=Roflman;34294594]Is he trying to start more drama by posting this on Tumblr?[/QUOTE]
More like he's trying to show how much of an immature brat Mecha really is.
[QUOTE=Roflman;34294594]Is he trying to start more drama by posting this on Tumblr?[/QUOTE]
Max is trying to start more drama? What more drama is there to START? Mecha is the one who hasn't let it go since the beginning. Why not remove something when the creator of it asks you to?
Can we not start this again? All it does is draw in more people who want to jump into the affair like flies to a pile of shit.
Especially random people who make FP accounts just to jump get on the bandwagon.
[QUOTE=Raikujo;34294700]More like he's trying to show how much of an immature brat Mecha really is.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make him look any more mature by trying to start something again. He should've really just left private matters private.
[QUOTE=lilguy;34294776]Can we not start this again? All it does is draw in more people who want to jump into the affair like flies to a pile of shit.
Especially random people who make FP accounts just to jump get on the bandwagon.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm a new member, but I've been following this for quite a while. Veteran status means nothing.
[QUOTE=Kite117;34294806]but I've been following this for quite a while.[/QUOTE]
then you would have realised this ended ages ago. All this is is Max trying to restart the drama.
[QUOTE=Roflman;34294779]He should've really just left private matters private.[/QUOTE]
It WOULD'VE been private, but keep in mind that Mecha was the one who asked Max to make a public post. This has been repeated numerous times, yet people continue to insist that this should've been private.
[QUOTE=themooselord;34294829]then you would have realised this ended ages ago. All this is is Max trying to restart the drama.[/QUOTE]
If the situation was over "ages ago" then there would have actually been a concession between the two.
I have yet to see a final agreement.
[QUOTE=themooselord;34294829]then you would have realised this ended ages ago. All this is is Max trying to restart the drama.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe just common people trying to bring this back.
Max didn't try at all,and it's better like that.
[QUOTE=Kite117;34294806]Yeah, I'm a new member, but I've been following this for quite a while. Veteran status means nothing.[/QUOTE]
Define "a while."
Before the whole situation unfolded? When the situation first started? When you first got wind of it by word of mouth after it started?
As far as I can recall, FP threads are still not view-able by unregistered guests. And yes, "veteran status" means nothing. It should really depend on whether or not you're part of the drama that it means something to you.
I'm not part of it, but drama is ugly and I for one, do NOT like it cluttering a public space.
[QUOTE=Raikujo;34294860]It WOULD'VE been private, but keep in mind that Mecha was the one who asked Max to make a public post. This has been repeated numerous times, yet people continue to insist that this should've been private.[/QUOTE]
I told Max to inform people that the animations were going off the server. That's it.
That's all I've got to say about this matter, the rest is between Max and I.
On a completely unrelated-to-drama note, am I the only one who thinks the pyro hookshot would be good for it's own gamemode? Hit an enemy, they go towards you, hit a wall and you move towards it - navigate around the level to avoid being shot, but be sure to hit a few enemies along them way and drag them into a pit. No respawning, like arena.
TF2 mods are serious business
[QUOTE=AlfieSR;34294933]On a completely unrelated-to-drama note, am I the only one who thinks the pyro hookshot would be good for it's own gamemode? Hit an enemy, they go towards you, hit a wall and you move towards it - navigate around the level to avoid being shot, but be sure to hit a few enemies along them way and drag them into a pit. No respawning, like arena.[/QUOTE]
Maybe make a special map for that?
[QUOTE=AlfieSR;34294933]On a completely unrelated-to-drama note, am I the only one who thinks the pyro hookshot would be good for it's own gamemode? Hit an enemy, they go towards you, hit a wall and you move towards it - navigate around the level to avoid being shot, but be sure to hit a few enemies along them way and drag them into a pit. No respawning, like arena.[/QUOTE]
It'd get old quite fast.
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