EDGE Suggests Valve start selling advantages in TF2
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[QUOTE=CommanderPT;32167602]All the weapons are sidegrades, [B]not upgrades[/B]. So I don't see the problem with selling weapons in TF2.[/QUOTE]
[B]Buff without any cons[/B]
- The Solemn Vow
- Amputator
[QUOTE='[Z];32168018']My point was it's a straight upgrade from the vanilla weapon. Same story with The Solemn Vow.[/QUOTE]
The Equalizer is not a "direct" upgrade. It does less damage than the shovel at full health. The Equalizer is more of a practical upgrade as in it is more useful than the shovel, though. Kinda like the Übersaw and Axtinguisher. To be a direct upgrade it has to be better in every aspect. The only weapons that "are" direct upgrades are the Amputator and Solemn Vow
EDIT: Great.....ninjad....
plus weapons in TF2 are super easy to get within an hour of them being released without paying a dime.
So "upgrades" are not quite as harsh as they would be if upgrades were pay-only.
[QUOTE=Cructo;32167865]It's balanced though, and doesn't provide an advantage in gameplay, as it can be easily countered.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean it's not a straight upgrade :downs:
[QUOTE=coverop;32168103][B]Buff without any cons[/B]
- The Solemn Vow
- Amputator[/QUOTE]
I wonder whether they'll just leave it like that of buff the Bonesaw. Kinda looks like they just didn't care anymore.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;32168303]I wonder whether they'll just leave it like that of buff the Bonesaw. Kinda looks like they just didn't care anymore.[/QUOTE]
They can't really buff the Bonesaw, as it's a stock melee and all of those are suppose to be the same, other than the knife (which is core to the Spy class) and Scout (such a melee weapon would be more powerful in a hit-n-run style).
[QUOTE=Raptortheawesome;32169234]EDGE is like the PETA of game developers.[/QUOTE]
Didn't PETA get annoyed by super meat boy? Or did they just make tofu boy because they felt like it.
[QUOTE=Raptortheawesome;32169234]EDGE is like the PETA of game developers.[/QUOTE]
EDGE is a magazine...
[QUOTE=Erfly;32169299]Didn't PETA get annoyed by super meat boy? Or did they just make tofu boy because they felt like it.[/QUOTE]
PETA is like China in that they make half-assed copies of popular games, only PETA does it because they like flaunting free speech.
[QUOTE=Erfly;32169299]Didn't PETA get annoyed by super meat boy? Or did they just make tofu boy because they felt like it.[/QUOTE]
They did. They've made Tofu Boy in the first place after the flash, and then in Super Meat Boy, Tofu Boy is there to play as.
tofu boy is like twice as hard as meat boy too
Thought I'd contribute
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[QUOTE=FeartheMango;32169635][img]http://i.imgur.com/sNakx.gif[/img]
Thought I'd contribute.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zadrave;32169534]They did. They've made Tofu Boy in the first place after the flash, and then in Super Meat Boy, Tofu Boy is there to play as.[/QUOTE]PETA didn't have Tofu Boy into SMB, that was the work of Team Meat. Within 24 hours of Super Tofu Boy going live on PETA's site, Team Meat responded by mocking them with Tofu Boy in SMB; as the literal worst character in the entire game, then proceeded to crack jokes about PETA on their twitter. It was pretty funny :v:
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;32170261]PETA didn't have Tofu Boy into SMB, that was the work of Team Meat. Within 24 hours of Super Tofu Boy going live on PETA's site, Team Meat responded by mocking them with Tofu Boy in SMB; [b]as the literal worst character in the entire game, then proceeded to crack jokes about PETA on their twitter.[/b] It was pretty funny :v:[/QUOTE]
Stay Classy Team Meat, Stay classy.
[QUOTE=FeartheMango;32170295]Stay Classy Team Meat, Stay classy.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Edmund McMillen]How many PETA members does it take to change a light bulb? None, PETA can't change anything.[/quote]
:v:
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;32170261]PETA didn't have Tofu Boy into SMB, that was the work of Team Meat. Within 24 hours of Super Tofu Boy going live on PETA's site, Team Meat responded by mocking them with Tofu Boy in SMB; as the literal worst character in the entire game, then proceeded to crack jokes about PETA on their twitter. It was pretty funny :v:[/QUOTE]
I know, that is what I meant. I want Valve to do that with Final Combat so bad.
[QUOTE=coverop;32168103][B]Buff without any cons[/B]
- The Solemn Vow
- Amputator[/QUOTE]
Except that to use the Amputator's Buff you need to stand still for 4 seconds and be an easy target.
I think this slightly altered quote from Barney Calhoun fits nicely: If you see Philip Resiberger, tell him I said FUCK YOU!
[QUOTE=TheJoey;32167198]I got it
Team Fortress promo items for TF2.[/QUOTE]
No, what I'm saying is that it's kinda funny how if someone wants to play a newer Team Fortress game, he is going to have to deal with a game that has a lot of off-related promotional content in it. And I know you were joking, so this an open reply.
Now, what there is left to do for Valve when it comes down to Team Fortress (plus mandatory Half-life) is to create a new with the help of what they've learned (Like BF3) by launching a Team Fortress 3, then after the stock content, update it with the MannCo Store + Valve wpns/hats also being droppable, plus nametags, paints, crates, unusuals, with a little new to everything. And it would be a definite hit, probably?
[QUOTE=NitronikALT;32170617]Except that to use the Amputator's Buff you need to stand still for 4 seconds and be an easy target.[/QUOTE]Except doing the exact same thing with the Bonesaw yields the exact same downside.
Player incompetency is not a downside. It's a literal upgrade to the stock weapon and there is nothing that can refute that.
[QUOTE=coverop;32168103][B]Buff without any cons[/B]
- The Solemn Vow
- Amputator[/QUOTE]
Remember when the Solemn Vow was in the Beta and everyone thought it was fantastic because everyone thought it would be a bonesaw buff and not an individual weapon? I wonder why Valve never caught that.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;32170871]No, what I'm saying is that it's kinda funny how if someone wants to play a newer Team Fortress game, he is going to have to deal with a game that has a lot of off-related promotional content in it. And I know you were joking, so this an open reply.
Now, what there is left to do for Valve when it comes down to Team Fortress (plus mandatory Half-life) is to create a new with the help of what they've learned (Like BF3) by launching a Team Fortress 3, then after the stock content, update it with the MannCo Store + Valve wpns/hats also being droppable, plus nametags, paints, crates, unusuals, with a little new to everything. And it would be a definite hit, probably?[/QUOTE]..... What?
I don't really get what you're saying, promos hamper enjoyment of the current newer tf2 so they have to make tf3?
[editline]7th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Cructo;32171123]Wasn't it an attribute for the Vita-Saw?[/QUOTE]No they later changed it to it's own weapon and they were called beta bone saws, so people naturally thought it was going to be a default weapon buff.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;32171176]
No they later changed it to it's own weapon and they were called beta bone saws, so people naturally thought it was going to be a default weapon buff.[/QUOTE]
...no they didn't
Did anyone think the Sniper Rifle was suddenly going to gain a combo system?
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;32171259]...no they didn't
Did anyone think the Sniper Rifle was suddenly going to gain a combo system?[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm recalling it wrong but I'm pretty sure there were some standalone beta bonesaws.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;32171346]Maybe I'm recalling it wrong but I'm pretty sure there were some standalone beta bonesaws.[/QUOTE]The fact that they were standalone items was enough to imply that it wasn't going to be added to the core class. If you wanted to test a buff to the stock, just buff the stock and remove it from the non-stock; an added standalone item isn't a stock item.
[QUOTE=Cructo;32171381]He means people didn't think the bonesaw was getting a buff.[/QUOTE]Oh sorry.
I thought the general idea was, because of all the complaining about the amputator being a straight upgrade people assumed the seeing opponents health was moved onto it's own weapon to test it as a buff to the bonesaw to compensate for the amputator, and because it had no other stats that would warrant it being it's own weapon.
But now we have the solemn vow, which is pretty confusing in the same vein of the amputator. It's no big balance problem but it's still odd.
Regardless I apologize.
