[QUOTE=RikohZX;34211434]And as Drury notes above me, why have Quote and Curly Brace as playable characters in Gang Garrison 2? (Admittedly, they were test characters for certain aspects, or so I heard, but still.)
Because it's funny; the point of playing a joke character generally comes out of the fun of messing around with them rather than trying to play them seriously to win. Of course, opinions will differ on that. :v:[/QUOTE]
I'll just shed a little light on this and be on my merry way.
He was originally used as a placeholder character when Medo was writing up the physics engine and was left in as an Easter egg due to a common trait on tigsource at the time to have Cave Story elements in a game at some point, I think that still happens, I'm not too sure. However, once he lost the rocketlauncher and was given the blade+bubbler, the class has gone through a lot of changes to see if it can be perfected. It's a wildcard that makes development a little more interesting, since we have essentially created a class from the ground up. We aren't entirely sure what direction the class should be heading or what it should specialize in, but it's balanced according to feedback given by the community and our own judgement. Once the main 9 classes are relatively balanced, there are not that many interesting or daring things to do that don't involve creating completely new things. But since we're hobbyists, we have the freedom to do just that and it's at no monetary cost to us; whereas if Valve were to do that with TF2, it's a much larger job for them to create a slew of animations, models, hire a voice actor, hook up response lines, create a new arsenal and give the class a solidified role or specialty in the game among other things.
And now I go :v:
[QUOTE=BloodNThunder;34211163]So?[/QUOTE]
So that means the idea is bad.
[QUOTE=Erfly;34211969]So that means the idea is bad.[/QUOTE]
The most it could be is a game mod.
The harm is minimal.
Valve adopting my designs? That's about as likely as Final Combat getting an English language international version.
[editline]14th January 2012[/editline]
I don't even understand what harm is there in designing such a character.
Tell me, what harm is there in building this fan character?
Yes its all coming together.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4hecW.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=tepholman;34209339]If that is so, he needs to have a assault rifle covered in useless attachments. This will attracts the F2Ps, who will religiously play him without realizing that even with all the scopes and rails on his gun, it only does about ten damage every clip. However, while they are playing it, subliminal messages will flash on the screen reading "PLAY MEDIC AND HEAL YOUR TEAM EQUALLY", "PLAY SCOUT AND CAPTURE THE INTEL WHEN YOUR TEAM HAS THE MOST POINTS", "DO NOT W+M1", "BE A FRIENDLIER FITTER HAPPIER MORE PRODUCTIVE PLAYER AND REMEMBER YOUR OBJECTIVES", and "BUY LOTS OF HATS TO BE GOOD". Thus, the F2P problem is solved. We'll also need to add the messages to the Machina.[/QUOTE]
I like the machina though :c
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;34198639]This is a terrible idea.[/QUOTE]
Which class suggestion was ever a good idea?
[QUOTE=BloodNThunder;34211163]So?[/QUOTE]
So why would Valve ever waste their time and money on adding in a class that you've already admitted adds absolutely nothing to the game?
[QUOTE=PredatorKing;34233830]So why would Valve ever waste their time and money on adding in a class that you've already admitted adds absolutely nothing to the game?[/QUOTE]
Did I even suggest Valve should do anything similar to what I presented in this thread?
I just want to share a joke character.
Pants
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gBLbA.jpg[/IMG]
Nobody cares about your Joke character, quit bumping your own thread.
[QUOTE=NateDude;34237313]Nobody cares about your Joke character, quit bumping your own thread.[/QUOTE]
:(
[QUOTE=Lenzikus;34228978]Which class suggestion was ever a good idea?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skerion;34210231]If anything, if there were to be an actual 10th class, it should had been this guy:
[media]http://vimeo.com/1146169[/media]
At least he'll most likely have an over-the-top personality, just like the rest of TF2's classes. Having a generic rifleman for the tenth class would be a huge disappointment.[/QUOTE]
It looks good and is a pretty good idea. The textures are the only thing i don't like. Rain of dumbs incomin'.
If you don't like my work in its current state, please offer constructive criticism.
[QUOTE=BloodNThunder;34243139]If you don't like my work in its current state, please offer constructive criticism.[/QUOTE]
Don't have a generic rifleman.
[QUOTE=Erfly;34243151]Don't have a generic rifleman.[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid that didn't help.
I'm asking for help to improve the design of the Generic. Scrapping the character would not be beneficial to its design.
[QUOTE=BloodNThunder;34243609]I'm afraid that didn't help.
I'm asking for help to improve the design of the Generic. Scrapping the character would not be beneficial to its design.[/QUOTE]
For starters, since a lot of the characters are quite mad and have distinct personalites already. A generic personality would seem very unfitting.
Maybe even just some psychopath from ireland would be suffice. Try giving more information about the character. Some proposed voice lines, taunts etc.
Even unlocks and hats would be good stuff.
[QUOTE=Erfly;34243755]For starters, since a lot of the characters are quite mad and have distinct personalites already. A generic personality would seem very unfitting.
Maybe even just some psychopath from ireland would be suffice. Try giving more information about the character. Some proposed voice lines, taunts etc.
Even unlocks and hats would be good stuff.[/QUOTE]
That's better.
First off personality.
I tried my best to answer the questions, "How do I make an interesting non-interesting character?" "How do I create a distinctive flavor of bland?" So far no answers.
[I]Background
[/I]
I've got some candidates:
The Conscript-- Forced to fight with the mercenaries.
The Defector-- Once fought for a third faction against RED and BLU but had a change of heart.
The Reject-- Repeatedly got merc job applications rejected on the grounds of "boring".
[I]Taunts[/I]
Rifle-- Michigan J. Frog-like dancing using the rifle as the cane.
Pistol-- Charles's Angels-ish pose
Bayonet-- Blade tip balance
EDIT:
I want to make this character over-the-top boring. If you think that can be done in a funny way, please tell me how you would envision it.
Very drone-speaking guy in a bowler hat is how I envision boring.
We totally need this
make him have a tacticool assault rifle that's ten times worse than the SMG and then watch all the F2P players ragequit
F2P problems solved
I've managed to blend the possible backstories of this class into one.
The Generic defected to the mercenaries (reasons still being decided preferably something humorous). The Administrator rejected him due to his lack of special talents, but the mercs drafted him into the team to be use as cannon fodder, a practice target, and as a scapegoat.
Cool, when do we get a model? When do you figure out how to model? and when does he get in game? when does valve hires you?
oh wait
since you made this thread you lack the intelligence of doing any of those listed above. :(
Over-the-top boring is an oxymoron that just doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Overseer No. 2;34251402]Over-the-top boring is an oxymoron that just doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, how about relatively boring?
I mean he is considered "normal" compared to the other nine classes.
Didn't we mostly cover all of the important gameplay aspects, though?
I can't envision a unique way to blend this guy in the game, even as a Generic Rifleman, considering everyone else would out-class him.
And yes, I know he's a joke character, but that's the reason the whole thing is retarded.
And I don't know how "Tricking F2P's to use a CoD Character" is a good idea.
At all.
The problem with 10th class is that the 10th class is Civilian/VIP. The Rifleman would be 11th class, really.
[QUOTE=gufu;34252670]The problem with 10th class is that the 10th class is Civilian/VIP. The Rifleman would be 11th class, really.[/QUOTE]
The name is Generic.
Rifleman has too much positive connotations.
[QUOTE=NateDude;34252542]Didn't we mostly cover all of the important gameplay aspects, though?
I can't envision a unique way to blend this guy in the game, even as a Generic Rifleman, considering everyone else would out-class him.
And yes, I know he's a joke character, but that's the reason the whole thing is retarded.
And I don't know how "Tricking F2P's to use a CoD Character" is a good idea.
At all.[/QUOTE]
I can. He shoots people. Not much too it.:v:
[QUOTE=NateDude;34252542]And I don't know how "Tricking F2P's to use a CoD Character" is a good idea.
At all.[/QUOTE]
It's not a good idea, it's a joke
meaning, we're not being serious
the sad part is how it looks like the OP IS being serious
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34252976]It's not a good idea, it's a joke
meaning, we're not being serious
the sad part is how it looks like the OP IS being serious[/QUOTE]
I'm only serious about making the art. Then the model.
I won't be considering a mod.
So the end result will probably be a ragdoll for all your G-mod silliness.
Striker is the reason I wish I could read chinese
[sp] I actually want to play final combat[/sp]
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