[QUOTE=MRTW113;21202445]It's actually funny that someone would pay the price of the game to get a virtual item in that game that can be acquired for free[/QUOTE]
It's so funny it's almost sad.
In reality Valve doesn't care if people idle for hats and stuff. It doesn't effect the balance much and the hats are just to look cool.
I remember the first night I decided to idle with srctools. I went into a server the next day and got 8 weapons and the fancy fedora. People were pissed! All of the weapons went towards crafting hats by the way.
[QUOTE=Duecez;21213805]In reality Valve doesn't care if people idle for hats and stuff. It doesn't effect the balance much and the hats are just to look cool.[/QUOTE]
*cough* halos *cough*
I know, they stopped that because it wasn't TF2 but another program.
But I'm pretty sure they don't like it, but realize that it is impossible to stop idlers.
[QUOTE=Keychain;21176731]What? Play the game?[/QUOTE]
But If you are idling you can do a lot of many things, I don't know why idling is bad for you.
[QUOTE=Seibitsu;21249585]But If you are idling you can do a lot of many things, [b]I don't know why idling is bad for you[/b].[/QUOTE]
Do you even know who Keychain is?
Most simpletastic idling fix evar: Found items must be claimed in an hour.
[QUOTE=BeefMcGraw;21188880]I never turn it off. I already have to run the server hunter for [url=http://tf2stats.net/blacklist]tf2stats.net blacklist[/url] 24/7... so ya... never close the PC. Electricity is cheap and generated by hydroelectric dams, so I don't feel wasteful ;)[/QUOTE]
You also wrote that?!
Damn, you're awesome.
[QUOTE=Cael;21249751]Most simpletastic idling fix evar: Found items must be claimed in an hour.[/QUOTE]Living for unusual amounts of time is now detrimental to finding items. It thus becomes common for defensive players who don't see the frontlines that often kill themselves regularly during drawn-out games; leaving said areas completely unguarded until they respawn and make their way back.
[QUOTE=Maurice;21249996]You also wrote that?!
Damn, you're awesome.[/QUOTE]
The data gathered is done through an add-on of Source Tools.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWrGcKbPN4I][b]Video demonstration[/b][/url]
The video was made before I found textmode. I was looking for a method to reduce resource usage since I run the thing in VMWARE.
When I discovered textmode, I promptly brought it to Source Tools 0.95a and later, SPUF got a hold of it and things caught on fire in the idling community :p
You have to thank Fireslash too, he operates tf2stats.net and he's the one supplying the list of servers to Source Tools and then receiving the data to build a database and make nifty blacklists.
They're not harming anyone by sitting on their own, why should VALVe care?
I suppose it was third party usage of exploitation. Prolly a tad illegal. I lost a Fedora to them, though, so their is still friction between us. :mad:
[QUOTE=Hell-met;21199918]and you can't idle on official maps because ... ?[/QUOTE]
By no custom content I mean 24/7 unchanging 24 man TF2
I earned all my weapons fair and square, I found 2 hats during regular play. But the idea of receiving hats when you're not playing is very tempting. That's why I idle.
[QUOTE=Pennywise;21251256]Living for unusual amounts of time is now detrimental to finding items. It thus becomes common for defensive players who don't see the frontlines that often kill themselves regularly during drawn-out games; leaving said areas completely unguarded until they respawn and make their way back.[/QUOTE]
Who lives for an hour in a given match?
Regardless, that's not how this works. Rather than dying to claim your item, a small Steam-esque message appears saying you've obtained an item. You simply open a menu at the next convenience to claim it.
[QUOTE=Cael;21254514]Who lives for an hour in a given match?[/QUOTE]
My longest life is roughly 52 minutes as an Engineer on defense on a 24/7 Turbine server. So yes, it happens.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;21257769]My longest life is roughly 52 minutes as an Engineer on defense on a 24/7 Turbine server. So yes, it happens.[/QUOTE]
Well, as I stated, you would be able to claim mid-life, so, moot point.
Idling is really cutting into my electricity bill
I have a server online 24/7 so it really doesn't do much. I just run it in a virtualized instance.
[QUOTE=blah45;21194876]or tape.[/QUOTE]
clocks for you.
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