TF2 Emporium 44: v. Whole Lotta Love

[Lexar]

[QUOTE=Roninsmastermix;34849487]lol. One comment i dont add ":)" and people say i'm offended. It'll take more than that to put me down kid. Also, i never took your words as criticism in ANY sense of the word, why should i be offended?

also, i trust my texturer, if he says its a gimmick not worth exploring, then i'll go with that.[/QUOTE]

lol, out of all the things you have made why wouldn't anyone take it as a joke, its one bad hat, we've all made (especially me) bad items at one point or another, i've seen many people make the "ill quit modding" joke and yet yours is the only one that ive seen anyone take seriously, i just couldn't help but laugh at this

[Jetamo]

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/sidebyside.PNG[/img]

[Lexar]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849643][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/sidebyside.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]

ohgodwut? (not in a bad way just a confused way)

[Psyke]

[QUOTE=Lexar;34849617]lol, out of all the things you have made why wouldn't anyone take it as a joke, its one bad hat, we've all made (especially me) bad items at one point or another, i've seen many people make the "ill quit modding" joke and yet yours is the only one that ive seen anyone take seriously, i just couldn't help but laugh at this[/QUOTE]

Remember that post where people said shut up and move on?

yeah i do.

[Lexar]

[QUOTE=psyke;34849667]Remember that post where people said shut up and move on?

yeah i do.[/QUOTE]

i started typing that post before you made that one, so i didn't get to see it before i did post my message.

[lemonade1950]

Hey guys remember that spycrab claw that I was modeling a while ago?

Yeah. Finally got around to uving it

[thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32006613/Models/spycrabclaw_5_3.png[/thumb]

[sp]Finally content[/sp]

[[Square]]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849643][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/sidebyside.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]

Elephant Pyros... they're coming...

[Deodorant]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849643][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/sidebyside.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]
My suggestions: Shorter trunk with less stretched segment-things. Less or no rounding on the up- and downside of the filter-thing.

[Jetamo]

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/heads.PNG[/img]

Which is better?

[derosaj]

the right one

[Totenkreuz]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849773][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/heads.PNG[/img]

Which is better?[/QUOTE]

Far right.

That nozzle bes' be jiggleboned.

[Inspecter]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849773][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/heads.PNG[/img]

Which is better?[/QUOTE]

I would go with the one that doesn't have issues with the deus specs and sore eyes.

[Psyke]

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/flowers.png[/img]

toying with some simple little patterns

anything here that could work. if built upon?

[Jetamo]

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/howsthis.PNG[/img]

Alright, how's this? What's wrong with it, or is it ready to attempt a UV

[Ducksink]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849773][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/heads.PNG[/img]

Which is better?[/QUOTE]
far left

[JoeJohns]

[QUOTE=psyke;34849832][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/flowers.png[/img]

toying with some simple little patterns

anything here that could work. if built upon?[/QUOTE]
Much better.
Perhaps less flowers, though?

[jimmee]

[QUOTE=psyke;34849832][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/flowers.png[/img]

toying with some simple little patterns

anything here that could work. if built upon?[/QUOTE]

Maybe put some daisies in the bow?

[Evil_Knevil]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849773][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/heads.PNG[/img][/QUOTE]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/CJOz7.jpg[/t]

[install gentoo]

[QUOTE=psyke;34849832][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/flowers.png[/img]

toying with some simple little patterns

anything here that could work. if built upon?[/QUOTE]

Looks perfect, completely spot on. Don't change anything.

[DarkD3filer]

How come, when all you do is flip a model, not modifying ANYTHING but it's position, it doesn't show in-game?

[IMG]http://speedcap.net/img/029fca203fb97ef32e643fb1c128346e/9414b071.png[/IMG]

The Ludmila Belt won't render in-game, same filename (s_v_ludmila.mdl).... But just doesn't show. What the fuck.

[Deodorant]

[QUOTE=psyke;34849832][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/flowers.png[/img]

toying with some simple little patterns

anything here that could work. if built upon?[/QUOTE]
A flower pattern would be nice, but those flowers look way too modern. I think an elaborate rose pattern would look best.
[QUOTE][IMG]http://www.diamondstatepartysales.com/images/English%20Rose.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34849858][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/modelling/2012/wippics/howsthis.PNG[/img]

Alright, how's this? What's wrong with it, or is it ready to attempt a UV[/QUOTE]
Is it supposed to look like a little separate thing attached on top of the default mask?

[Jetamo]

[QUOTE=Deodorant;34850084]A flower pattern would be nice, but those flowers look way too modern. I think an elaborate rose pattern would look best.

Is it supposed to look like a little separate thing attached on top of the default mask?[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I was wondering if that wasalright, as it makes it give a different look to say, the Foster's Facade, or the other pretty-much-the-same Pyro masks. I could add something so it looks like it's held on by like a strap or something.

[Grimhound]

[QUOTE=HelmoChipChop;34850061]How come, when all you do is flip a model, not modifying ANYTHING but it's position, it doesn't show in-game?

[IMG]http://speedcap.net/img/029fca203fb97ef32e643fb1c128346e/9414b071.png[/IMG]

The Ludmila Belt won't render in-game, same filename (s_v_ludmila.mdl).... But just doesn't show. What the fuck.[/QUOTE]

The Minigun and Natascha use a separate model for first person that's really fucked up. They wanted to show more of the guns on the screen, and so you have some monstrous clusterfuck of features shoved forward. It's why I use the Iron Curtain. Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.

[DarkD3filer]

[QUOTE=Grimhound;34850107]The Minigun and Natascha use a separate model for first person that's really fucked up. They wanted to show more of the guns on the screen, and so you have some monstrous clusterfuck of features shoved forward. It's why I use the Iron Curtain. Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.[/QUOTE]

I know, I use the IC too, but I love the sound for natascha and the belt is neat. The v_minigun_heavy.mdl has c_v_ludmila.mdl (the belt) attached when using natascha. All I did was flip the belt model and for some reason it just wont appear in-game. I had some trouble re-compiling though, something to do with the bones. Could this be the issue? Anyone care to lend a hand? :s

[Psyke]

The only issue with complicated details is that they become very visually busy from a distance

i gave filling in the gap a go too

[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25325795/25125.png[/img]

The images i'm showing here are just proof of concept. none of the texturing is what it's going to look like. it'll be quite different in terms of attention/quality

[Deodorant]

[QUOTE=Jetamo;34850104]Yeah. I was wondering if that wasalright, as it makes it give a different look to say, the Foster's Facade, or the other pretty-much-the-same Pyro masks. I could add something so it looks like it's held on by like a strap or something.[/QUOTE]
Are you, like, asking for my permission? You're the modeller, do whatever the hell you want.

If you want my opinion, though, I think one of those baggy, creepy, WW1-style canvas masks would look awesome.

[IMG]http://i.imm.io/heGG.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=psyke;34850163]The only issue with complicated details is that they become very visually busy from a distance
[/QUOTE]

How about a pattern of stylized blotches that resembles a classical rose pattern in color and shape?

[Constructor]

My bones are set up like this:
[IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40395733/BONES.png[/IMG]
Highlighted bone is "smokeparticle."
.qc is like this:

$cd "C:\Users\Käyttäjä\Desktop\guile\potpott"
$modelname "player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl"
$model "Body" "backypacky.smd"
$cdmaterials "\models\player\items\pyro\"
$cdmaterials ""
$texturegroup skinfamilies
{
	{ "models/player/items/pyro/drg_pyro_fuelTank.vmt" }
	{ "drg_pyro_fuelTank_blue.vmt" }
}
$hboxset "default"
$hbox 0 "prp_fuelTank" -5.668  -25.096  -6.345  9.861  15.795  4.559
$surfaceprop "plastic"
$illumposition -0.893 2.097 -4.651
$attachment "drg_pipe_smoke" "smokeparticle" -0.00 -0.00 -0.00 rotate 0 -0 -0
$sequence idle "idle" loop fps 30.00
$jigglebone "jigglytree" {
	is_flexible {
		yaw_stiffness 100
		yaw_damping 5
		pitch_stiffness 100
		pitch_damping 5
		tip_mass 20
		length 20
		angle_constraint 90 }
}
$jigglebone "jigglytube1" {
	is_flexible {
		yaw_stiffness 1
		yaw_damping 5
		pitch_stiffness 100
		pitch_damping 5
		tip_mass 20
		length 20
		angle_constraint 90 }
}
$jigglebone "jigglytube2" {
	is_flexible {
		yaw_stiffness 1
		yaw_damping 5
		pitch_stiffness 100
		pitch_damping 5
		tip_mass 20
		length 20
		angle_constraint 90 }
}
$jigglebone "jigglytube3" {
	is_flexible {
		yaw_stiffness 1
		yaw_damping 5
		pitch_stiffness 100
		pitch_damping 5
		tip_mass 20
		length 20
		angle_constraint 90 }
}
$keyvalues
{
 particles
  {
effect
{
name"drg_pipe_smoke"
attachment_type"follow_attachment"
attachment_point"smokeparticle"
}
  }
}

But console gives me this:

KeyValues Error: RecursiveLoadFromBuffer:  got empty keyname in file models/player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl
mdlkeyvalue, Particles, effect, 
KeyValues Error: RecursiveLoadFromBuffer:  got empty keyname in file models/player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl
mdlkeyvalue, Particles, attachment_type, (*effect*), 
KeyValues Error: RecursiveLoadFromBuffer:  got empty keyname in file models/player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl
mdlkeyvalue, attachment_point, (*Particles*), (*attachment_type*), (*effect*), 
KeyValues Error: LoadFromBuffer: missing { in file models/player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl
(*mdlkeyvalue*), (*attachment_point*), (*Particles*), (*attachment_type*), (*effect*), 
KeyValues Error: LoadFromBuffer: missing { in file models/player/items/pyro/professor_speks.mdl
(*mdlkeyvalue*), (*attachment_point*), (*Particles*), (*attachment_type*), (*effect*), 
Invalid attach type specified for particle effect in model '(null)' keyvalues section. Trying to spawn effect 'drg_pipe_smoke' with attach type of ''

And no particles. What am i doing wrong?

[Jalcober]

[QUOTE=Deodorant;34850328]Are you, like, asking for my permission? You're the modeller, do whatever the hell you want.

If you want my opinion, though, I think one of those baggy, creepy, WW1-style canvas masks would look awesome.

[IMG]http://i.imm.io/heGG.png[/IMG]

How about a pattern of stylized blotches that resembles a classical rose pattern in color and shape?[/QUOTE]

Oh god that is scary.

[Deodorant]

[QUOTE=Jalcober;34850445]Oh god that is scary.[/QUOTE]

Otto Dix. [URL="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2010/12/Screen-shot-2010-12-09-at-11.22.27.png"]Pretty neat guy.[/URL]

[[Square]]

[QUOTE=Deodorant;34850328]
If you want my opinion, though, I think one of those baggy, creepy, WW1-style canvas masks would look awesome.

[IMG]http://i.imm.io/heGG.png[/IMG]

[/QUOTE]

Not sure if your talking about the same thing but I've always wanted to see someone make one of these creepy WW1 gas masks

[QUOTE=][IMG]http://www.battlesofwar.com/media/wwi-picture-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://longstreet.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83542d51e69e20133f5962837970b-800wi[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img3.photographersdirect.com/img/17863/wm/pd1043021.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
they remind me of penguins...