TF2 General chat and everything that isn't TF2 - May - Games

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845368]Mooman, you should totally add a Moonman Backpack to your loadout of things. [sp]Then we can just call you Moonman more often[/sp][/QUOTE] I'm actually not very fond of the moonman cosmetics, the phlog is nice though.

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[QUOTE=l l;35845014]happy birthday to me[/QUOTE] Happy birthday. Now what did you mean by that comment on my profile dammit I am still wondering

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845368]Mooman, you should totally add a Moonman Backpack to your loadout of things. [sp]Then we can just call you Moonman more often[/sp][/QUOTE] Shadiko told me he accidentally almost called him moobs. Moobsman. Sounds like some godawful superhero.

[QUOTE=l l;35845357]i am sad i can't play my gamecube (I only have Wind Waker but it's like my favorite game anyway) because composite died out and nothing I own has a slot for it[/QUOTE] I think they make composite to hdmi converters, not sure. Do you use hdmi? [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] Fuck it's late Someone help

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845375]the phlog is nice though.[/QUOTE] I hope you're talking about its appearance.

[QUOTE=Renim;35845378]Happy birthday. Now what did you mean by that comment on my profile dammit I am still wondering[/QUOTE] oh sorry dude I forgot to reply, thanks btw I was referring to the picture on your title, it kinda looks like a hippo (besides the teeth)

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845393]I hope you're talking about its appearance.[/QUOTE] Aw hell naw, don't you be talkin shit about the phlog.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845405]Aw hell naw, don't you be talkin shit about the phlog.[/QUOTE] Don't you make me bring the smackdown, moobman.

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845409]Don't you make me bring the smackdown, moobman.[/QUOTE] Engineers can't bring smackdowns with out their overcompensation guns.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845427]the phlog is shit[/QUOTE] No It's 3 am Help

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845421]Engineer can't bring smackdowns with out their overcompensation guns.[/QUOTE] Son, all I need is my trusty shotty and my handy little gun that's got 100 hp, costs only 100 n&b, can't be upgraded nor repaired, erects in 2.5 seconds, and fires 6 8-damage shots per second. You best be fearin' the smackdown.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845427]the phlog is shit[/QUOTE] The phlog excels at suppression and medium term survivability.

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845433]Son, all I need is my trusty shotty and my handy little gun that's got 100 hp, costs only 100 n&b, can't be upgraded nor repaired, erects in 2.5 seconds, and fires 6 8-damage shots per second. You best be fearin' the smackdown.[/QUOTE] Oh hoo hoo, tough guy using mini sentries, they die before they can fire one shot, and before the you hit ground from being flareshot.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845441]it excels at being the worst pyro weapon[/QUOTE] No, that was post +50hp Backburner. Phlog actually does a decent job at what the Backburner was originally designed to do. And that design is still terrible.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845436]The phlog excels at suppression and medium term survivability.[/QUOTE] Really? Well the airblast excells at suppression and long term survivability.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845445][b]mini sentries[/b][/QUOTE] That's Autogun to you, shorty.

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845449]No, that was post +50hp Backburner. Phlog actually does a decent job at what the Backburner was originally designed to do. And that design is still terrible.[/QUOTE] The backburner is preemptive ambushing, the phlog can ambush, but is not as capable as the backburner. [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;35845456]Really? Well the airblast excells at suppression and long term survivability.[/QUOTE] Suppression that doesn't heal your self or damage classes that don't shoot rockets.

[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;35845456]Really? Well the airblast excells at suppression and long term survivability.[/QUOTE] Airblast = Run into the open and die Phlog = Be a fucking pyro [B]Ninja.[/B]

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845475]They're both shit weapons and if you're using either of them you should probably stop playing Pyro.[/QUOTE] The backburner used to be the go to weapon when dealing with heavies, the phlog can deal with heavies more actively but puts you more at risk and is more limited.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845475]They're both shit weapons and if you're using either of them you should probably stop playing Pyro.[/QUOTE] So degreaser or stock, and anything else and we are terrible. Nope.

Any custom weapon for the pyro is rubbish in comparison to the stock weapons. Except maybe the Powerjack, but even then it's still rubbish in it's own way.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845494]The stock is shit too compared to the degreaser. [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] Why are you taking on heavies as Pyro anyway?[/QUOTE] I don't think you fully grasp just how pyro savvy I am.

[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845466]The backburner is preemptive ambushing, the phlog can ambush, but is not as capable as the backburner.[/QUOTE] Backburner's original design: Encourage people to ambush by giving them critical hits from behind. This encourages them to play like Spies, right? Let's also give him some extra health to aid in survivability when ambushing. That fell flat on its face because people just used the 50 more hp for up-front fighting. This was when the term "W+M1" was coined because of how effective it was for how little competence was needed to utilize it. Phlog's design: Encourage people to ambush by giving them critical hits, but only if they can survive long enough to deal 200 fire damage. This encourages them to not be blindly charging to their deaths and to try to survive so they can use the Mmmph to wreak havoc. The health bonus from the Backburner makes a surprise appearance in the Mmmph activation taunt, it aids in survivability like the original Backburner did. Phlog and Backburner's problems: They lack much depth. Airblast offers more depth, as such people would prefer to use a weapon that offers more depth, versatility, and survivability. The weapons are godly against bad players but their flaws grow more and more blatant against competent players who know how to kite, heckle, and generally harass Pyros from outside of their primary range. It's not so much "bad", it's just that it's one of the worse options if you're against a team that can hold their own against a Pyro running at them with no way to manipulate their movements or projectiles.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845494]The stock is shit too compared to the degreaser. Why are you taking on heavies as Pyro anyway?[/QUOTE] Now were only allowed to use the degreaser? Try it and see how well it works, I dare you. And you're killing heavies as a pyro because, let's see here, you're a pyro. Really though. I have to fucking sleep. For real this time.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845521]Can you answer my question?[/QUOTE] The minigun out damages the flamethrower, but the flamethrower can hit more in close combat, if you get the drop and the heavy has trouble aiming or panics you can kill him, regardless if you win the fight or not the heavy will come out injured and can be picked off by teammates or will fall back.

I use the Backburner. Since I use most classes to ambush or attack from behind. And even it's cost 50 of ammo I use the airblast.

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[QUOTE=mooman1080;35845538]The minigun out damages the flamethrower, but the flamethrower can hit more in close combat, if you get the drop and the heavy has trouble aiming or panics you can kill him.[/QUOTE] That's a problem of the enemy player not being competent or just unaware of their surroundings, not an event of the Phlog or Backburner being good. Good Heavies eat Pyros for breakfast and still have room for seconds and even thirds. The only time where the Pyro has the definitive clear-cut advantage against the Heavy is if he's distracted or weakened by someone else. But that's not a fair matchup to try to compare your weapons against him since you outnumbered him anyway.

[QUOTE=Cructo;35845546]If the Heavy isn't a complete retard he's going to kill anyone dumb enough to come in close range.[/QUOTE] A heavy can't shoot around corners, a flaregun can pop and shot for much more damage, and shotgun can deal some damage if a straight up ambush isn't an option. [editline]6th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Psychopath12;35845564]That's a problem of the enemy player not being competent or just unaware of their surroundings, not an event of the Phlog or Backburner being good. Good Heavies eat Pyros for breakfast and still have room for seconds and even thirds. The only time where the Pyro has the definitive clear-cut advantage against the Heavy is if he's distracted or weakened by someone else. But that's not a fair matchup to try to compare your weapons against him since you outnumbered him anyway.[/QUOTE] Then you injure the heavy, if he doesn't have a medic it can be worthwhile.