[QUOTE=lemonade1950;35529495]My guess is that they're attached to bip_spine_1 with jigglebones[/QUOTE]
You know Valve likes to rig again every model... but yeah, you are right. My model was rigged to the grenades too, and it was really painful, so they just told me to try the spine bones.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/P9UpO.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Thatrandomuser;35529282]No offense or anything but....This is awful. Just awful, for demo at least. I can never in a thousand years imagine him wearing a mask like that for any occasion whatsoever; plus it's more then likely to be rejected due to the teams strong stance on "Face blocking items are made exclusivley for holiday seasons....that's intentional"[/QUOTE]
I believe it's a sport involving sword fighting in Japan. Given the prevalence of the Demoman now being a proficient melee class, the logic is probably based on that.
I do like the Kendo mask, even if it does appear to clip terribly with the collar, and I understand the fact it obstructs the face as a cause for concern, which is a shame. I would suggest having one of the bars shattered or damaged in some way across the face, but most consider that a cliché.
[QUOTE=Noizeblaze;35530127]I believe it's a sport involving sword fighting in Japan. Given the prevalence of the Demoman now being a proficient melee class, the logic is probably based on that.
I do like the Kendo mask, even if it does appear to clip terribly with the collar, and I understand the fact it obstructs the face as a cause for concern, which is a shame. I would suggest having one of the bars shattered or damaged in some way across the face, but most consider that a cliché.[/QUOTE]
The bar(s) going over his bad eye should be broken, imo.
EDIT: Why is the suggestion dumb? Care to explain?
[QUOTE=MultiTrip;35530093][img]http://i.imgur.com/P9UpO.png[/img][/QUOTE]
How would that hat look with team colors as dark as that green?
[QUOTE=Roninsmastermix;35529370]I know about that and i said outright that it worries me already that it cover's the face as much. But its a promise i must keep for a fan. I gave my word that i will make him a kendo set and the least i could do is make it work the best i could. If valve rejects it, at least my poor buddy knew that i tried.
[editline]11th April 2012[/editline]
I could make a better hood honestly but i don't view it as a wasted model if valve didnt accept it. I've had far better work that has been rejected (or wasted if some may put it) that at this point, this is not an issue anymore. Besides, no point at getting attached to things. Make stuff the best you could then move on.[/QUOTE]
could not the mask be partially lifted up, as if the demoman didnt have enough time to put it fully on?
[QUOTE=MultiTrip;35530093][img]http://i.imgur.com/P9UpO.png[/img][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/p6Kz[/IMG]
I'd do something like this.
[QUOTE=Populus89;35526114][URL="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99"][IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7534716/MagicSpy/Ace1.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]
The cylinder's (still) misaligned. It can't fire if a bullet chamber's not parallel to the barrel.
So, uh, why there are so much guests there?
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/huh.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=Thatrandomuser;35529282]"Face blocking items are made exclusivley for holiday seasons....that's intentional"[/QUOTE]
Or promos
[img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/0/0c/RED_Mask_of_the_Shaman.png/86px-RED_Mask_of_the_Shaman.png[/img]
About the Kendo pack, Ronin; are you going to make a wooden sword too?
[QUOTE=Sexy Robot;35530360][IMG]http://puu.sh/p6Kz[/IMG]
I'd do something like this.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Cj1jl.png[/img]
So, why is the Team Captain so expensive?
[URL="http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30249740&postcount=23"]Apparently, we're all in on some conspiracy.[/URL]
I didn't know we were manipulating the market, personally, if someone had bothered to tell me I'd be selling TC's for buds right now. Anyone else miss that particular memo?
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;35531071]So, why is the Team Captain so expensive?
[URL="http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30249740&postcount=23"]Apparently, we're all in on some conspiracy.[/URL]
I didn't know we were manipulating the market, personally, if someone had bothered to tell me I'd be selling TC's for buds right now. Anyone else miss that particular memo?[/QUOTE]
The price has nothing to do with Facepunch. It's just SPUF trying to pin the blame on someone when simple supply/demand made it go up. If people didn't want it so much, the thing wouldn't be nearly as valuable to traders.
[QUOTE=Noizeblaze;35530127]I believe it's a sport involving sword fighting in Japan. Given the prevalence of the Demoman now being a proficient melee class, the logic is probably based on that.
I do like the Kendo mask, even if it does appear to clip terribly with the collar, and I understand the fact it obstructs the face as a cause for concern, which is a shame. I would suggest having one of the bars shattered or damaged in some way across the face, but most consider that a cliché.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i don't like the idea of making hints on the bad eye now. There is not a terrible amount of this gimmick in-game but many creators have gone that route thus making people get tired of it.
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;35531119]The price has nothing to do with Facepunch. It's just SPUF trying to pin the blame on someone when simple supply/demand made it go up. If people didn't want it so much, the thing wouldn't be nearly as valuable to traders.[/QUOTE]
Nonsense, we all love Daimao so we buy his stuff and artificially boost the prices.
Guys we need to make the Frenchman's beret worth unusuals WHO'S WITH ME
[QUOTE=Liquidrocks;35530846]Or promos
[img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/0/0c/RED_Mask_of_the_Shaman.png/86px-RED_Mask_of_the_Shaman.png[/img]
About the Kendo pack, Ronin; are you going to make a wooden sword too?[/QUOTE]
yes the wooden sword is on the way.
[QUOTE=alexdom;35531147][url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26839256/goldengun.zip.zip][img]http://i41.tinypic.com/35hnyi0.png[/img][/url][/QUOTE]
The zip file doesn't seem to be working.
It just comes up "Error (404)"
[QUOTE=Gen. Cornwaffle;35531254]The zip file doesn't seem to be working.
It just comes up "Error (404)"[/QUOTE]
Delete the second .zip.
Here: [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26839256/goldengun.zip[/url]
[QUOTE=Gen. Cornwaffle;35531254]The zip file doesn't seem to be working.
It just comes up "Error (404)"[/QUOTE]
Delete the extra ".zip" part in the link.
Edit: Ninjed.
fixed sorry >_<
I'm sort of scared that Ronin is making an item that breaks a couple of the normal tf2 item rules, I mean he's already got the Toothkickers in-game which violates the misc item conflicting with weapons thing...
Valve clearly don't mind breaking the rules when it comes to Ronin, no offence.
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;35531395]I'm sort of scared that Ronin is making an item that breaks a couple of the normal tf2 item rules, I mean he's already got the Toothkickers in-game which violates the misc item conflicting with weapons thing...
Valve clearly don't mind breaking the rules when it comes to Ronin, no offence.[/QUOTE]
Was that ever a "rule"?
[QUOTE=The_Broker;35531304]Delete the second .zip.
Here: [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26839256/goldengun.zip[/url][/QUOTE]
Oddly enough, when I first tried that it didn't work, but it works now. lol
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;35531395]I'm sort of scared that Ronin is making an item that breaks a couple of the normal tf2 item rules, I mean he's already got the Toothkickers in-game which violates the misc item conflicting with weapons thing...
Valve clearly don't mind breaking the rules when it comes to Ronin, no offence.[/QUOTE]
they have said that they are guidelines and they try to stick to it unless if the item is so awesome that they dont care. I dont remotely think this set is anywhere near "awesome"-ness. But yeah let's just make the set and hope they people like it.
[QUOTE=Devozade;35531416]Was that ever a "rule"?[/QUOTE]
It wasn't an explicit rule, just a guideline. The classes were all designed in such as way that everything that can affect gameplay is easily identifiable. The classes are colored and shaded in ways to draw attention to their torso, where they hold their weapons.
The WAR! Update introduced the Gunboats, but that was a tolerable case because it was still very easy to associate "things on Soldier's feet must be a secondary passive." This also applied to the Razorback and the Buff Banner as well, making those back-riding items easy to distinguish from a non-user of those items.
The Set hats from Mannconomy screwed with that by interlinking weapons and cosmetics to affect gameplay. It was a flop but was not undone because of purchases that people made.
Come Halloween 2011, 2 feet miscs are introduced for Soldier and Demoman. At a passing glance, it is not easy to identify if it is a passive secondary or just a cosmetic because as more and more items get added, it gets more difficult to identify what exactly does what; just flat-out knowing that it does [i]something[/i] is important too. The Tooth Kickers on the Soldier and Demoman do the same thing.
[QUOTE=Roninsmastermix;35531170]Yeah i don't like the idea of making hints on the bad eye now. There is not a terrible amount of this gimmick in-game but many creators have gone that route thus making people get tired of it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I was saying about that on the Emporium chat earlier, very few in-game items actually do reference the absence of his eye. However, I could propose a variation of the idea:
[IMG]http://speedcap.net/img/6b66382a7edabbebc11f6f41acf41ce8/b36f5b5a.png[/IMG]
2 years at art college folks.
Anyway, the idea here is broken in a way to reveal the face some more that might be acceptable to the TF2 team's rule. One could also avert the missing eye trope thing by having the damage be to the right hand side.
But that's just a suggestion.
[QUOTE=Roninsmastermix;35531493]they have said that they are guidelines and they try to stick to it unless if the item is so awesome that they dont care. I dont remotely think this set is anywhere near "awesome"-ness. But yeah let's just make the set and hope they people like it.[/QUOTE]
or if a company pays them to put the promo ingame they don't care about breaking the silhouette rule.
[QUOTE=Thatrandomuser;35531564]or if a company pays them to put the promo ingame they don't care about breaking the silhouette rule.[/QUOTE]
or the limited bodygroups rule.
[QUOTE=Noizeblaze;35531543]Yes, I was saying about that on the Emporium chat earlier, very few in-game items actually do reference the absence of his eye. However, I could propose a variation of the idea:
[IMG]http://speedcap.net/img/6b66382a7edabbebc11f6f41acf41ce8/b36f5b5a.png[/IMG]
Thank you for taking the time to illustrate. I wish everyone giving us ideas would take the time to do this. However, the idea actually makes the area "busy" and thus distracting rather than actually helping. When we see a kendo head gear, we immediately associate the grill to the item. Our brain would bicker on itself. Also, it would be even more poly-intensive than it already is. Less verts is always better.
2 years at art college folks.
Anyway, the idea here is broken in a way to reveal the face some more that might be acceptable to the TF2 team's rule. One could also avert the missing eye trope thing by having the damage be to the right hand side.
But that's just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]
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