• Why can I not run TF2 at 60 fps?
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[QUOTE=kaze4159;36587377]You do realize that the i7 isn't a gaming processor right?[/QUOTE] You do realize that there is no such thing as a 'gaming' processor, right? Intel and AMD design their chips to fit into certain price brackets and builders will often take note of the performance given for the price paid of these processors. It's common to assert that processors above a certain performance threshold to be suitable for tasks such as gaming. Neither AMD nor Intel design any processor with the specific audience 'gamers' in mind. They just sell their product in different price tiers so that customers of various wallet sizes can purchase the processor most suitable for them. [QUOTE=tratzzz;36590751]A powerful CPU with more than 2 cores and usually with 4 cores, not being used for rendering stuff etc. Hard to explain, but i7-s are for rendering stuff because they have 4/6 cores + hyperthreading. i5-s have 4 cores and as they do not have HT (What is boosting the threads amount), they run games better because games are optimized for 2 or 4 threads usually. Some games detect the Hyperthreaded cores and do not use them but some fuck it up because the devs have a publisher pushing a stick up their ass. Programs for rendering etc. use the all the threads. That's why i7-s are faster for them.[/QUOTE] I hate to say this, but you're making it very obvious that you have very little idea of what you're talking about. The label "i3", "i5", and "i7" have been reused for the last 3 generations of Intel processors. Nehalem, Sandy Bridge, and the new Ivy Bridge. (My Core i7-860 is of the Nehalem generation.) Those 3 labels are used to generically apply to different pricing categories for different intended consumers. i3 are for entry level customers. i5 are for mainstream customers. i7 are for high end and business customers. (In other words, it's not incorrect to use an i7 category processor if the intended purpose is for a high-end PC, regardless of whether it'll play games or not.) Secondly, Hyper-Threading as a feature is not limited to i7 category processors. Hyper-Threading is commonly seen on processors in all (i3, i5, and i7) pricing categories. Whether a program uses Hyper-Threading correctly is up to the program developer. It's my point that Valve, a multi-million dollar company, the (arguable) leader of the PC gaming industry, should have fixed their most popular game engine to correctly run on modern processors which have Hyper-Threading. Ivy Bridge is the third generation of processor supporting Hyper-Threading and frankly it's ridiculous that Valve hasn't completely fixed support for Hyper-Threading in their games. They've literally been dragging their ass over implementing features that would help for ~70% of the customers who run a PC made with a recently made Intel processor.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;36591042]I rarely go under 60 with a Core2Duo on the highest settings with 8x AA.[/QUOTE] How?
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;36591610]How?[/QUOTE] Not sure, the performance has always been pretty good. I think back in 2010 or something it would constantly crash but that happened to a lot of other people. The only thing I did for performance was this: [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1093560[/url] I'm not really sure if it did anything though.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;36591741]Not sure, the performance has always been pretty good. I think back in 2010 or something it would constantly crash but that happened to a lot of other people. The only thing I did for performance was this: [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1093560[/url] I'm not really sure if it did anything though.[/QUOTE] Do you run it at windowed mode?
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;36591757]Do you run it at windowed mode?[/QUOTE] Yeah, borderless window mode.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;36591776]Yeah, borderless window mode.[/QUOTE] Weird, I run TF2 with borderless window mode while using the method you posted above AND using Chris' DX9Frames and I get 40-60 FPS.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;36591042]I rarely go under 60 with a Core2Duo on the highest settings with 8x AA.[/QUOTE] Could you please post your full system specs? Thanks.
Team Fortress 2: The only game that increases in minimum specifications with age.
I've found that using configs to increase the games quality has made my game run faster. No idea why, just works out in the end.
[QUOTE=SchnookieFace;36592855]I've found that using configs to increase the games quality has made my game run faster. No idea why, just works out in the end.[/QUOTE] I've heard of that, it has to do with some cards running like DX9 and stuff better, it runs easier on them. Or something like that. It's weird, but sometimes it works.
[QUOTE=Joey JoJo;36587217]If you have a processor that has Hyper-Threading, disable it in BIOS, reboot and try to run TF2. I have an Intel Core i7-860 which I've had to disable Hyper-Threading for because it makes TF2 run like ass for some reason. It really boils my blood when I have to limit features of my CPU just to get TF2, a game that was meant to run on gaming computers, to run correctly. Valve should've taken care of that a long-ass time ago. Never mind, you're playing games on a laptop. Not a good idea. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE] Did I not say that I can run everything else fine? There is nothing wrong with my laptop. It was a laptop designed for gaming. It just means I can take it to my friends house easier then you can.
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