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My bet is that the Suits will: A) End up like the Razorback B) Become used by only Pro Sapper and knife only spies and become the new Razorback

Ok fixed the first image

[QUOTE=Simski;17177836]Yeah, I rarely "Battle medic" like people call it... however I do rely heavily on the blutsauger when I am faced with threats such as spies or scouts trying to take me out while the guy I'm healing is distracted/too retarded to help me.[/QUOTE] Spahs I understand. A good ubersaw to the face does him in well, but if he breaks out the Revo, then yeah, Blut him. Scouts are trickier and more of an annoyance. I usually high tail it when a scout decides to bee line right for me and unload the Blut as I backpedal. Most of the time they're hurrFaN scoots, so I usually die instantly. :c

The fire retardant thing is not going to work if pyros can still hear the "sizzling" sound from burning an enemy. As soon as they hear that, it triggers some primal instinct to follow the target until it is dead, even if that means they will have to chase it across the map. Although it would allow spies to survive a pyro attack ONLY when teammates are nearby to quickly kill the pyro.

[QUOTE=Killuah;17177838]What is your source? These could be shoped.[/QUOTE] I don't think so. There was already word of the new suits way before, and there were some other images of the new weapons similar to these.

[QUOTE=MegaPear;17177591]I really don't think the spy needs a fire retardant suit.[/QUOTE] Well who else would need one?

[QUOTE=MendozaMan;17177892]The fire retardant thing is not going to work if pyros can still hear the "sizzling" sound from burning an enemy. As soon as they hear that, it triggers some primal instinct to follow the target until it is dead, even if that means they will have to chase it across the map. Although it would allow spies to survive a pyro attack ONLY when teammates are nearby to quickly kill the pyro.[/QUOTE] Cloak.

[QUOTE=MendozaMan;17177892]The fire retardant thing is not going to work if pyros can still hear the "sizzling" sound from burning an enemy. As soon as they hear that, it triggers some primal instinct to follow the target until it is dead, even if that means they will have to chase it across the map. Although it would allow spies to survive a pyro attack ONLY when teammates are nearby to quickly kill the pyro.[/QUOTE] It also might help them IF they survive the attack and then makes an escape before the pyro has the time to keep flaming you up.

What the fuck. Almost everything is perfectly balanced, what is this bullshit?

[QUOTE=NotMeh;17177951]What the fuck. Almost everything is perfectly balanced, what is this bullshit?[/QUOTE] Ever heard of the Needlegun? What about the Bonesaw? Besides, the rest of them just add variety to the game and don't break the balance or anything.

[QUOTE=Killuah;17177838]What is your source? These could be shoped.[/QUOTE] [url]http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3186461&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=138[/url]

Oh god. Ohgodohgodohgodohgodohgodohgodohgod. NOT THE BLUTSAGER/UBERSAW! Also, does the fire-retardant suit strike anyone else as over powered? I mean, no one really uses the Revolver (if they're a good Spy :v:), and the ability to be invulnerable to ignition would make it [I]much[/I] easier to Spy.

[QUOTE=kikka;17177979]Ever heard of the Needlegun? What about the Bonesaw? Besides, the rest of them just add variety to the game and don't break the balance or anything.[/QUOTE] Instead of nerfing everything they could BUFF the unbalanced things.. jesus christ

bleh, the things they are updating I don't even use and I hope it stays that way. But hey that suit sounds awesome

One source is here for anyone interested. [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=930130[/url] Also, this for anyone who thinks some of these are ridiculous ideas. [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11189339&postcount=991[/url]

Remember people, most of these [B]could also only be brainstorming from Valve[/B], and not the final products.

They best be kidding. I mean, it's not like it was perfectly fine before. Or the Pyro is the Spies counter. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=YoYoYoDude;17178048]One source is here for anyone interested. [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=930130[/url] Also, this for anyone who thinks these are ridiculous ideas. [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11189339&postcount=991[/url][/QUOTE] Oh well, OP didn't mention that.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;17178039]Instead of nerfing everything they could BUFF the unbalanced things.. jesus christ[/QUOTE] Also, then they'd have to buff everything else to keep up, and that'd be tedious and dumb.

[QUOTE=kikka;17178062]Also, then they'd have to buff everything else to keep up, and that'd be tedious and dumb.[/QUOTE] No, they will buff the things that are shit and useless to the same level as every other weapon.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;17178075]No, they will buff the things that are shit and useless to the same level as every other weapon.[/QUOTE] But what if the other weapons are too buff, making the rest overpowered too? Medic isn't supposed to be a do-all kill-all one man army anyway.

[QUOTE=kikka;17178084]But what if the other weapons are too buff, making the rest overpowered too?[/QUOTE] Then nerf them A LITTLE BIT.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;17178093]Then nerf them A LITTLE BIT.[/QUOTE] Exactly what they're doing. Now let's stop arguing.

Aren't these for competitive play only though?

[QUOTE=Jojje;17178126]Aren't these for competitive play only though?[/QUOTE] Frankly, I don't understand why Valve would make these for competetive play only. I thought they were doing these with competetive playing [I]in mind.[/I]

[QUOTE=Jojje;17178126]Aren't these for competitive play only though?[/QUOTE] Nope, they're just testing with competitive players just like they did with the Sandman.

[QUOTE=Jojje;17178126]Aren't these for competitive play only though?[/QUOTE] Shh. Don't give Valve ideas.

[QUOTE=kikka;17178053]Remember people, most of these [B]could also only be brainstorming from Valve[/B], and not the final products.[/QUOTE] They are exactly that. From TheDL (he's in the beta, one of the best spy players around): [quote] God which idiot leaked those screenshots, bringing these completely misguided speculations. A good amount of those weapons are just some random brainstormed ideas that valve threw to us to test. Most if not all of us did not like the medic weapon nerfs but instead insisted on buffs for the original weapons.[/quote] So don't take these to heart guys. They're outdated and valve aren't gonna nerf the bluts or ubersaw. e: put this in the OP to stop people from raging [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11189339&postcount=991[/url]

Valve have got it all wrong with the medic weapons.

Now I hate all the changes they do and I deem ale these new items useless, not even single one seems to be worth the drastic penalties.

[QUOTE=NOT King Shit;17178215] So don't take these to heart guys. They're outdated and valve aren't gonna nerf the bluts or ubersaw [/QUOTE] You don't know that yet. I'm seriously hoping they do nerf them, so the Medic can get his other two weapon alternatives back.