Major Update Speculation Thread V3: Tonight's the Night, forever and always
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[QUOTE=Maruhai;36263430]Tell us all your secrets.[/QUOTE]
He is here to take the americans jobs
[QUOTE=mooman1080;36263371]That's the point.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;36263276]It's a deterrent of teamwork, which is bad.[/QUOTE]
Reading is hard.
After the TOBOR/MvM update, Soldier will become as a great prophet to TF2, warning us atleast eight months in advance about the robots coming to take our JOBS.
All of my stranges have 0 kills.
Because I sell them as is instead of using/farming them.
Did you know?: 'Hales Own' stranges are worth a lot more when traded with gift wrap as they keep the killcount.
I'll now attempt to predict the next salvaged crate as it's actual speculation.
PDA
Spy-Cicle
Homewrecker
crit-a-cola or sanvich
[QUOTE=01271;36263913]PDA[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=J-RcZ;36263927]Why?[/QUOTE]
The Sapper, the machina, the widowmaker, any weapons that people really like, they're all going to be hard as fuck to get.
Just because they can.
[QUOTE=01271;36263958]Just because they can.[/QUOTE]
Here's my prediction for the next salvaged crate:
[quote]diddly squat[/quote]
No one likes them. You'd think they'd get the hint after the disdain met with series 30. They should be able to catch on after a second swing and miss.
I don't see a point in strange PDA.
What would it count?
Wrench already counts sentry kills.
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;36263841]Reading is hard.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it deters team work and aids in roaming, that's the point.
[QUOTE=J-RcZ;36264006]I don't see a point in strange PDA.
What would it count?
Wrench already counts sentry kills.[/QUOTE]
Teleporter usage?
Dispenser health dispensed?
[QUOTE=J-RcZ;36264006]I don't see a point in strange PDA.
What would it count?
Wrench already counts sentry kills.[/QUOTE]
Buildings built, obviously.
[QUOTE=Citizen Insane;36263200]I'm gonna say
-Force-a-Nature
-Spy-cicle
-Disciplinary Action
-Tomislav
-One of the Grordbort weapons[/QUOTE]
-Phlogistinator
-Cow Mangler 5000
-Enforcer
-Building PDA
-Bonk! Atomic Punch
PDA counts the number of buildings built, the Bonk counts the amount of damage absorbed.
Phlog and Cow Mangler are 1 bud each because shut up. PDA is 2 buds.
The kind of clever ideas that come from Valve
[QUOTE=mooman1080;36264042]Yes, it deters team work and aids in roaming, that's the point.[/QUOTE]
In [i]Team[/i] Fortress 2, you'd expect that items should be catered towards teamwork.
The Roaming Soldier playstyle is a choice that helps teamwork when paired with a coordinated Medic and Pocket because of the Soldier's innate ability to move quickly and his adaptability to a multitude of situations, Pyro lacks such a mechanic to aid in roaming and lacks that sort of flexibility that the Soldier and Scout boast.
[QUOTE=_Kilburn;36264082]Buildings built, obviously.[/QUOTE]
So much farming
[QUOTE=J-RcZ;36264143]So much farming[/QUOTE]
You can do farming with every other strange weapon.
I will rent out this pageking to the highest bidder!
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;36264115]In [i]Team[/i] Fortress 2, you'd expect that items should be catered towards teamwork.
The Roaming Soldier playstyle is a choice that helps teamwork when paired with a coordinated Medic and Pocket because of the Soldier's innate ability to move quickly and his adaptability to a multitude of situations, Pyro lacks such a mechanic to aid in roaming and lacks that sort of flexibility that the Soldier and Scout boast.[/QUOTE]
Ok, what prevents the roaming pyro from aiding his team? The detonator can provide extra mobility and the pyro can last longer behind enemy lines with the backscratcher and using airblast to escape unfavorable encounters.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;36264216]Ok, what prevents the roaming pyro from aiding his team? The detonator can provide extra mobility and the pyro can last longer behind enemy lines with the backscratcher and using airblast to escape unfavorable encounters.[/QUOTE]
I never said that he can't aid his team. I stated that he is less useful for teamwork regarding the Medic (one of the most team-oriented classes in the entire game).
Yes, he can keep himself alive with Medkits, but medkits are not always available and it's not always possible to roam to places where the other team isn't watching (which makes it difficult to make a clean entrance so he can stay as healthy as possible).
Time is very important - time spent away from the fight is as good as time spent respawning - time spent being healed by a beam is time spent not healing other teammates. Roaming Soldiers and Scouts minimize that downtime when finding a medkit by being fast to recuperate, the Pyro lacks such a luxury. The Detonator can make him go upwards, but it doesn't make him fast to recuperate.
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;36264326]I never said that he can't aid his team. I stated that he is less useful for teamwork regarding the Medic (one of the most team-oriented classes in the entire game).
Yes, he can keep himself alive with Medkits, but medkits are not always available and it's not always possible to roam to places where the other team isn't watching (which makes it difficult to make a clean entrance so he can stay as healthy as possible).
Time is very important - time spent away from the fight is as good as time spent respawning - time spent being healed by a beam is time spent not healing other teammates. Roaming Soldiers and Scouts minimize that downtime when finding a medkit by being fast to recuperate, the Pyro lacks such a luxury. The Detonator can make him go upwards, but it doesn't make him fast to recuperate.[/QUOTE]
You can launch you off walls with the detonator.
But that's roaming for you, it might not be preferable based on the map. Different classes roam in different ways with different strengths, soldier is less long term but faster and more ranged, scout is more rapid but much more fragile. I still haven't a clue what you're saying here; you're complaining it's bad with medics, well no shit, that's the point, you don't see medics all that much while roaming.
The Pyro can do many things but most other classes can do that better, we know that.
[QUOTE=hogofwar;36264161]You can do farming with every other strange weapon.[/QUOTE]
But that requires effort (or an idle server).
[QUOTE=Kapellmeister;36264853]But that requires effort (or an idle server).[/QUOTE]
Join idle server
Type +attack in console
Wait a few hours
Doesn't seem like a lot of effort to me.
[QUOTE=Kapellmeister;36264853]But that requires effort (or an idle server).[/QUOTE]
Farming pda would also require effort. Not to mention, that a guy created a farming map for stranges, all you have to do is connect your alt accounts and type +attack and +forward in the console.
You guys can hold on for another day, right?
[QUOTE=Drury;36262485]
[url=http://www.pentadact.com/2008-05-31-team-fortress-2-unlockable-ideas/]All by a single person.[/url][/QUOTE]
I didn't realize he also coined Spy seeing enemy's health and Engineer being able to move buildings.
It's kind of funny how much they've borrowed from that guy. He does have a community equalizer... but still.
[QUOTE=thecuntsman;36265608]You guys can hold on for another day, right?[/QUOTE]
What the hell is up with this damn club of people who 'know things'
First we got testinglol now the contributors are doing it.
Maybe you do know something in which case stop near-breaking your NDA.
I don't think Valve makes 'em sign a NDA... I don't think so anyway, I think it's just a matter of trust.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36265690]I didn't realize he also coined Spy seeing enemy's health and Engineer being able to move buildings.
It's kind of funny how much they've borrowed from that guy. He does have a community equalizer... but still.[/QUOTE]
He should have a community version of every item he inspired.
Valve doesn't NDA contributors. It's just kind of "dude, be a bro, you know this is confidential"
[QUOTE=BANG!;36263367][IMG]http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1005/tobor.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;HGSVYgcy24Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSVYgcy24Q[/video]
[sp]why is the file name tobor.png?[/sp]
