Major Update Speculation: V8: Rise of the Machines!
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They don't use it because we don't use it because they don't use it.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;37689821]They don't use it because we don't use it because they don't use it.[/QUOTE]
The not-using paradox that gets used.
But I honestly wish they would still use Team Fortress 2 Beta. I mean come on, it's taking up my space, and I'm just waiting for new stuff in it. ;-;
just "beat" Black Mesa
what a crazy awesome ride
[QUOTE=AbeX300;37690616]The not-using paradox that gets used.
But I honestly wish they would still use Team Fortress 2 Beta. I mean come on, it's taking up my space, and I'm just waiting for new stuff in it. ;-;[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it really is wasted potential. If they actually used the beta, then they would keep the community more occupied between updates, and would be able to more easily notice flaws in their designs or what type of things the community enjoy.
[QUOTE=Simski;37690696]Yeah, it really is wasted potential. If they actually used the beta, then they would keep the community more occupied between updates, and would be able to more easily notice flaws in their designs or what type of things the community enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Then again, they waste potential, even before or after putting the beta to rest, shortly.
So much, it isn't funny.
Perhaps somebody should ask one of the tf2 people why the beta is being neglected? Maybe for a little bit of insight from the people who actually made it?
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37690622]just "beat" Black Mesa
what a crazy awesome ride[/QUOTE]
still downloading
7% it says
3 days left it says
I think the beta has a lot of problems which are reasons they don't add items to it or test anything.
1. Item drops. It's kind of stupid if you get a hat or cool item in the beta it doesn't mean anything, meaning people just don't want to play. I got a Dapper Topper and 2 name tag drops in the beta. After that I kind of didn't really want to play anymore in case I got more goodies
2. Nobody has their loadouts they're used to. It's a lot easier to test items when everyone is using weapons they would in the "normal" game. In beta, everyone is a "new" player and weapon distribution is poor. I don't think it's possible to trade beta items either.
3. It's just more work for a team that is small enough as is. Why bother updating the beta when you can just add the weapon and balance it later, and making new attributes and stuff that may never be used is just wasted time.
4. Nobody, not even Valve, wants to waste money hosting beta servers. It just isn't worth it.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37690849]I think the beta has a lot of problems which are reasons they don't add items to it or test anything.
1. Item drops. It's kind of stupid if you get a hat or cool item in the beta it doesn't mean anything, meaning people just don't want to play. I got a Dapper Topper and 2 name tag drops in the beta. After that I kind of didn't really want to play anymore in case I got more goodies
2. Nobody has their loadouts they're used to. It's a lot easier to test items when everyone is using weapons they would in the "normal" game. In beta, everyone is a "new" player and weapon distribution is poor. I don't think it's possible to trade beta items either.
3. It's just more work for a team that is small enough as is. Why bother updating the beta when you can just add the weapon and balance it later, and making new attributes and stuff that may never be used is just wasted time.
4. Nobody, not even Valve, wants to waste money hosting beta servers. It just isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]
Then the question is, why'd they even add it in the first place?
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37690849]1. Item drops. It's kind of stupid if you get a hat or cool item in the beta it doesn't mean anything, meaning people just don't want to play. I got a Dapper Topper and 2 name tag drops in the beta. After that I kind of didn't really want to play anymore in case I got more goodies
2. Nobody has their loadouts they're used to. It's a lot easier to test items when everyone is using weapons they would in the "normal" game. In beta, everyone is a "new" player and weapon distribution is poor. I don't think it's possible to trade beta items either.[/QUOTE]
Those 2 can be fixed easily:
Disable item drops and give everyone every weapon. You don't need hats to play the game. Maybe hand out a Familiar Fez, Attendant, Milkman, Grenadier's Softcap and a Ol' Snaggletooth for the setbonuses.
[QUOTE=DatWut?;37691007]Those 2 can be fixed easily:
Disable item drops and give everyone every weapon. You don't need hats to play the game. Maybe hand out a Familiar Fez, Attendant, Milkman, Grenadier's Softcap and a Ol' Snaggletooth for the setbonuses.[/QUOTE]
That comes with the problem that playing in beta means that you don't get your normal tf2 item drops (though I suppose they could have drops and apply them to your main tf2 account without giving them to the beta).
[QUOTE=Armisael;37691121]That comes with the problem that playing in beta means that you don't get your normal tf2 item drops (though I suppose they could have drops and apply them to your main tf2 account without giving them to the beta).[/QUOTE]
But when the Beta doesn't get drops, what'd the problem be?
People wouldn't want to play the beta, since they'd be losing out on drops in regular tf2.
That reminds me. I have a Fez in my inventory in the Beta from way back when, I don't remember why I got it. Did they give a random polycount set hat to people who logged on or something?
To clarify, it wasn't a drop. It was one of the items I got when I first logged onto it. But I didn't have one in my normal game inventory at the time, hence why I'm confused.
as some people have speculated that for mvm, the blue team will get to be attacking, anyone think there will be some kind of special boss kind of like this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpeByGIOmOE[/media]
not the specific boss, but the same general idea. some kind of epic fight against gray mann or something.
You know what was cool? The original way of unlocking weapons through achievements.
Of course, now we have probably near 200 weapons. Doing the obligatory achievements each update would feel like a chore list after a while, and that would blow. But still, that's a pretty cool system. Do any other games do that? TF2 probably wasn't the first to do so, right?
(On a related note, I finally got my hands on the Scout's cleaver! That weapon is [I]fun[/I].)
The way to bring people back from not playing beta because of the way drops work is either:
A: reverse those changes
B: let items be transferable between beta and the release, with the obvious exception of beta-only weapons
[QUOTE=emmens;37682946]So...what would be needed for the heroes hachimachi to be made all class? Seeing as I can't get the humanitarian version[/QUOTE]
I'd like to restate this. Would it be possible to rig the Hero's Hachimaki to be all class or alternatively retexture the Humanitarians Hachimaki with the Hero one? And what would it take to get valve to do it?
[url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32764043&postcount=10[/url]
[quote]We're planning to release some more tours soon[/quote]
Almost a week old, but I hadn't seen it mentioned
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37691440]The way to bring people back from not playing beta because of the way drops work is either:
A: reverse those changes
B: let items be transferable between beta and the release, with the obvious exception of beta-only weapons[/QUOTE]
yes
let me transfer my #63 Conoisseur's Cap, #61 Team Captain and my full craft number Grodbort Pyro set
wait
Optimistic, but maybe a lack of a patch last week was because of a new tour coming this week.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37691752][url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32764043&postcount=10[/url]
Almost a week old, but I hadn't seen it mentioned[/QUOTE]
by new tours, do they mean new maps or new missions for existing maps?
[QUOTE=kooper44;37691793]by new tours, do they mean new maps or new missions for existing maps?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to assume new missions and waves. New maps would be a pretty big thing to just add randomly.
The team of 6 Scouts with Face Blaster + Crit a Cola + Atomiser + maxed speed
MONOCULUS spawning in a wave of 6 Giant Soldiers
while everyone is in the Underworld
I can taste it
[QUOTE=SLBros.;37691813]The team of 6 Scouts with Face Blaster + Crit a Cola + Atomiser + maxed speed
MONOCULUS spawning in a wave of 6 Giant Soldiers
while everyone is in the Underworld
I can taste it[/QUOTE]
robot monoculus
I'd like to see a shotgun or katana soldier bot. Soldier bots are so boring.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37692437]I'd like to see a shotgun or katana soldier bot. Soldier bots are so boring.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see a Mobster Heavy wave, with Tomislav Heavies, Family Business Heavies, and Eviction Notice Heavies.
[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37692437]I'd like to see a shotgun or katana soldier bot. Soldier bots are so boring.[/QUOTE]
A Giant Soldier wearing the Killer's Kabuto and the Half-Zatoichi with increased speed
*shudders*
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