Major Update Speculation: V8: Rise of the Machines! - Games

I only want the Googly Gazer backpack icon to be updated with the newer textures.

[QUOTE=psyke;37800139]Well Weta just added some amazing dota shit with exclusive ingame items [url]http://www.wetanz.com/dota2/[/url][/QUOTE] One month late, and the replicas are not distribued before June.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37806124]Heavy/Scout shirt can't directly conflict with tattoos or you can't wear the Triad Trinket with the Champ Stamp, which obviously you need to be able to wear together.[/QUOTE] Well, I didn't put the Triad Trinket in [U]"Shirt Accessories"[/U], it's just in [I]"Shirt"[/I], so it doesn't conflict.

[QUOTE=Hell-met;37803143][thumb]http://www.sourceop.com/hell-met/TF2/robos.jpg[/thumb] keeping a spare slot for a robo-sandwich [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img][/QUOTE] You can just ask f00l to make it craftable :P

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37806166]You can just ask f00l to make it craftable :P[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it will be available to everybody, even if it's not by craft, but not before a month I think.

why wait a month? It's not like the genuine codes expire or the promo somehow ends.

Valve always wanted to leave a time exclusivity for the Genuine versions of items, the only two cases I can think of where they made the items droppable/craftable as soon as the Genuine versions were released were the Deus Ex pack and the Sleeping Dogs pack.

[QUOTE=Maruhai;37806238]Valve always wanted to leave a time exclusivity for the Genuine versions of items, the only two cases I can think of where they made the items droppable/craftable as soon as the Genuine versions were released were the Deus Ex pack and the Sleeping Dogs pack.[/QUOTE] that's because Genuines are always for pre-ordering items or part of larger, longer sales (like the Pip-Boy) that extend out to a set period, and then it's just a matter of Valve remembering to do it. Archimedes and Balloonicorn were similar promos as this and they were droppable and craftable from the start.

[QUOTE=Maruhai;37806238]Valve always wanted to leave a time exclusivity for the Genuine versions of items, the only two cases I can think of where they made the items droppable/craftable as soon as the Genuine versions were released were the Deus Ex pack and the Sleeping Dogs pack.[/QUOTE] Don't forget the Shogun Pack.

[QUOTE=Maruhai;37806238]Valve always wanted to leave a time exclusivity for the Genuine versions of items, the only two cases I can think of where they made the items droppable/craftable as soon as the Genuine versions were released were the Deus Ex pack and the Sleeping Dogs pack.[/QUOTE] The Balloonicorn and Archimedes were both craftable/droppable though.

Tell us your secrets, Svdl. [img]http://i.imgur.com/S8l3J.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Benzo;37806259]The Balloonicorn and Archimedes were both craftable/droppable though.[/QUOTE] Those were both related to the big update going with them tho, the Robo Sandvich isn't part of any big update.

Say Ned, have you considered asking Valve about having a 'sodden victims' count on the sydney sleeper like that on the jarate? I'd like to know just how many people I've doused in my own urethral extract.

[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;37806663]Say Ned, have you considered asking Valve about having a 'sodden victims' count on the sydney sleeper like that on the jarate? I'd like to know just how many people I've doused in my own urethral extract.[/QUOTE] I can do that. [code]{ "name": "kill eater score type 2", "class": "kill_eater_score_type_2", "value": 4.000000 }[/code] However, I'm not entirely sure if it will count at all. The Sodden Victims killeater is coded for jars, I am unsure if it would work for a non-jar. It's a similar reason why the Mediguns cannot have "Allies Extinguished" Strange Parts applied to them, it's because those Strange Parts are explicitly coded for jars and airblasts, the code doesn't support the Mediguns' streamed extinguishing. [editline]26th September 2012[/editline] Actually, I'll send them an email about adding that as a secondary counter once I have an opportunity. I'll also try to convince them to have Sentry Kills be a secondary counter for the Southern Hospitality.

they had a chance to do the secondary counter for the Southern Hospitality and they didn't want it

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37807386]they had a chance to do the secondary counter for the Southern Hospitality and they didn't want it[/QUOTE] What if I go through Jeep?

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;37807448]What if I go through Jeep?[/QUOTE] Him and Sam went over the community schema. That was a fix in the community schema. They didn't want it. You should probably email the entire TF Team, maybe one of them will like the idea.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37807505]Him and Sam went over the community schema. That was a fix in the community schema. They didn't want it. You should probably email the entire TF Team, maybe one of them will like the idea.[/QUOTE] How about if the entire TF team is composed by Jeep and Sam?

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37807505]Him and Sam went over the community schema. That was a fix in the community schema. They didn't want it. You should probably email the entire TF Team, maybe one of them will like the idea.[/QUOTE] My best guess as to why they rejected it is on technical grounds and not grounds that don't make sense. On the item server, each item has X amount of allocated space for it to use, this space stores the item ID, item quality, item name, item description, and has space delegated to be used by the killeater counters. If I'm not mistaken, they have to manually determine if an item gets more space to use for a secondary counter when they make it. Which means going backwards they would need to revise a few things. However, with the addition of Strange Parts, that's a debunked theory as now each Strange can have up to three more additional counters. If there is a technical reason, they seem to have already addressed it. Why such things don't get changed around once a solution has been found is solely on the TF team's shoulders.

you could still just email them. Maybe they forgot to add it, after all the Solemn Vow's sounds weren't fixed right away

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37806166]You can just ask f00l to make it craftable :P[/QUOTE] oh I tried he sounded like "[I]what are you talking about[/I]" so I didn't bother like I said before, I don't think anyone at valve but the ~10 devs is following TF2 anymore

[QUOTE=Hell-met;37808974]oh I tried he sounded like "[I]what are you talking about[/I]" so I didn't bother like I said before, I don't think anyone at valve but the ~10 devs is following TF2 anymore[/QUOTE] Dark days ahead.

nah, I trust those that are working on TF2 right now know what they're doing. They're not making the bananas nonsense mistakes the Dota 2 team (~100 people) is making with item distribution. At least TF2 has never had to revoke items, lol.

and no (but a rare few) limited time items in tf2

[QUOTE=tso;37810090]and no (but a rare few) limited time items in tf2[/QUOTE] Yea, for all it's item criticisms and a few missteps, the TF team has been very fair with item distribution. At least it's not a closed beta with time exclusive items, that have PR stating they will never be released again ;) They're always careful with TF2 items and making sure nothing is truly promised as "exclusive" unless it's something like the Saxxy and not like a bunch of nerds complaining about the Dapper Topper. [editline]26th September 2012[/editline] Let's just say I have a feeling if the Raincatcher or Jag issues came up in Dota, they would have been handled a lot differently (as in they'd be totally ignored and those contributors left with nothing)

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37809998]nah, I trust those that are working on TF2 right now know what they're doing. They're not making the bananas nonsense mistakes the Dota 2 team (~100 people) is making with item distribution. At least TF2 has never had to revoke items, lol.[/QUOTE] And yet the Dota 2 team isn't scared witless of a few neck-bearded malcontents on SPUF, so they release more game-changing content.

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;37810206]And yet the Dota 2 team isn't scared witless of a few neck-bearded malcontents on SPUF, so they release more game-changing content.[/QUOTE] They're so not scared of a few neck-beards they even removed an entire set of community contributed items a few days after some people whined! Wait...

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;37810280]They're so not scared of a few neck-beards they even removed an entire set of community contributed items a few days after some people whined! Wait...[/QUOTE] But they'll still get more champs while we wait another eight months for a new weapon--if we're lucky.

[QUOTE=Lord Exor;37810338]But they'll still get more champs while we wait another eight months for a new weapon--if we're lucky.[/QUOTE] that's because dota's not even finished I'm sure the game changing content will be just as slow after the official "release"

Me and my friends just crashed three times in a row on different servers with different maps. Oh why Valve.