[QUOTE=Dvdgg;38472482]Mr Tripp, Spacebox in, like, 11 hours?[/QUOTE]
workshop files have been updated, you should probably update them.
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472501]the gunboats are useful
the buff banner and backup are sometimes useful
the concheror is a joke
the mantreads are a joke
the reserve shooter is rarely better than the shotgun
the bison is a gimmick that deals okay damage
the shotgun is a reliable secondary than can output large damage consistently and quickly at close range
I'm not seeing what's not to like[/QUOTE]
i want community gunboats now
And reposting again.
[url]http://tf2r.com/kjcpmm3.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472501]the gunboats are useful
the buff banner and backup are sometimes useful
the concheror is a joke
the mantreads are a joke
the reserve shooter is rarely better than the shotgun
the bison is a gimmick that deals okay damage
the shotgun is a reliable secondary than can output large damage consistently and quickly at close range
I'm not seeing what's not to like[/QUOTE]
You only listed unlocks for soldier, the class that not counting heavy will use the shotgun the least.
[QUOTE=Dubious George;38472507]i want community gunboats now[/QUOTE]
Sparkly Gunboats would like so amazing.
Even the pathetic Mantreads would be neat.
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472501]the gunboats are useful
the buff banner and backup are sometimes useful
the concheror is a joke
the mantreads are a joke
the reserve shooter is rarely better than the shotgun
the bison is a gimmick that deals okay damage
the shotgun is a reliable secondary than can output large damage consistently and quickly at close range
I'm not seeing what's not to like[/QUOTE]
Manthreads need to deal more dmg.
[QUOTE=Black;38472523]Manthreads need to deal more dmg.[/QUOTE]
It would be nice if it aided dropping directly into a fight.
[QUOTE=Black;38472523]Manthreads need to deal more dmg.[/QUOTE]
imo the damage is fine. It shouldn't be able to 1shot people, and can deal about 100 max i think?
maybe a 60-100 ratio depending on fall height.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;38472518]You only listed unlocks for soldier, the class that not counting heavy will use the shotgun the least.[/QUOTE]
the sandvich is useful, but if you pick it as a community weapon nobody will ever see it
the dalokohs bar is a joke
the steak is a fun novelty item that, once again, nobody will ever see
the family business is not worth it in almost any situation
that does it for "secondaries"
the frontier justice has an advantage 10% of the time and a disadvantage 90% of the time
the widowmaker is good
the pomson is a shit weapon that is good for heckling medics and spies, albeit reduced due to removed penetration
so, if you want to trade in the best all rounder option for three classes for a good option on the engineer, alright then
I never worked out or bothered to learn how Mantread damage works. I assume it's height and caps at a damage point.
Usually I'll land on someone's head and they'll die, or I'll kill them with the gardener after impact.
[QUOTE=Cape;38472547]I never worked out or bothered to learn how Mantread damage works. I assume it's height and caps at a damage point.
Usually I'll land on someone's head and they'll die, or I'll kill them with the gardener after impact.[/QUOTE]
it's triple the fall damage you take iirc
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472544]the sandvich is useful, but if you pick it as a community weapon nobody will ever see it
the dalokohs bar is a joke
the steak is a fun novelty item that, once again, nobody will ever see
the family business is not worth it in almost any situation
that does it for "secondaries"
the frontier justice has an advantage 10% of the time and a disadvantage 90% of the time
the widowmaker is good
the pomson is a shit weapon that is good for heckling medics and spies, albeit reduced due to removed penetration
so, if you want to trade in the best all rounder option for three classes for a good option on the engineer, alright then[/QUOTE]
what about pyros? they use the shotgun too
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472501]the mantreads are a joke
[/QUOTE]
Im up to 3 kills on mine.
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472544]the sandvich is useful, but if you pick it as a community weapon nobody will ever see it
the dalokohs bar is a joke
the steak is a fun novelty item that, once again, nobody will ever see
the family business is not worth it in almost any situation
that does it for "secondaries"
the frontier justice has an advantage 10% of the time and a disadvantage 90% of the time
the widowmaker is good
the pomson is a shit weapon that is good for heckling medics and spies, albeit reduced due to removed penetration
so, if you want to trade in the best all rounder option for three classes for a good option on the engineer, alright then[/QUOTE]
Pomson is a good weapon, Sandvitch is sandvitch so all the more reason not to have a community shotgun.
Where are the pyro weapons?
welp, TF2 got boring so Killing Floor luckily saved me from those
...Robots.
yeah I edited, turns out my date is wrong.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;38472569]Pomson is a good weapon, Sandvitch is sandvitch so all the more reason not to have a community shotgun.
Where are the pyro weapons?[/QUOTE]
the flare gun is decent the detonator is shit the scorch shot is rarely useful the manmelter is shit, also 'sandvitch is sandvitch' eludes me
you're still trading one great one for 4 people for 1 alright-good one for someone else
pomson is a shit weapon against anyone who isn't braindead retarded or a medic chained to a shitty healing target
[b]edit:[/b] the manmelter is good*
What Telltale didn't want you to see in The Walking Left 4 Dead 2:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/8J7Nr.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;38472604]What Telltale didn't want you to see in The Walking Left 4 Dead 2:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/8J7Nr.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
aside from the pose he actually doesn't look too out of place at all
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472612]aside from the pose he actually doesn't look too out of place at all[/QUOTE]
I disagree. He looks almost photoshopped.
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472577]the flare gun is decent the detonator is shit the scorch shot is rarely useful the manmelter is shit, also 'sandvitch is sandvitch' eludes me
you're still trading one great one for 4 people for 1 alright-good one for someone else
pomson is a shit weapon against anyone who isn't braindead retarded or a medic chained to a shitty healing target
[b]edit:[/b] the manmelter is good*[/QUOTE]
Flaregun is only decent? Also the scorch shot is amazing.
So soldier and heavy rarely use the shotgun, heavy most certainly never uses it because of sandvitch, pyro has two other good weapons and engineer has two as well.
The point still remains that the stock shotgun is bland, a community weapon should be special, not just something that is the baseline and conveniently works on multiple classes so you can show it off.
[QUOTE=Ax3l;38472614]I disagree. He looks almost photoshopped.[/QUOTE]
Well it is a mod of him that replaces either Coach or Louis
Coach: [url]http://www.l4dmaps.com/details.php?file=21677[/url]
Louis: [url]http://www.l4dmaps.com/details.php?file=21676[/url]
[QUOTE=mooman1080;38472618]Flaregun is only decent? Also the scorch shot is amazing.
So soldier and heavy rarely use the shotgun, heavy most certainly never uses it because of sandvitch, pyro has two other good weapons and engineer has two as well.
The point still remains that the stock shotgun is bland, a community weapon should be special, not just something that is the baseline and conveniently works on multiple classes so you can show it off.[/QUOTE]
the point does not remain that, a community weapon is special by virtue of being a community weapon, stock =/= baseline, and it 'works' on multiple classes as a very good weapon on all of them. Out of the 4 classes, I only don't use it on Engineer. No, the Heavy does not 'most certainly never use it', I rarely ever use the sandwich.
If you think an item needs more than sparkles and a phong boost (which, I might add, only applies to stock weapons) to be 'special', then, well, okay.
Also, on pyro the Reserve Shooter is actually pretty good. Pair it with the degreaser and you can airblast+midair crit combo almost anything. It's a pretty good alternative to the old fire + axetinguisher combo, since it works on other pyros as well, plus the faster switch speed with it also passively helps fire+axetinguisher pyros.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;38472571]welp, TF2 got boring so Killing Floor luckily saved me from those
...Robots.
yeah I edited, turns out my date is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Yoshi.
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472637]the point does not remain that, a community weapon is special by virtue of being a community weapon, stock =/= baseline, and it 'works' on multiple classes as a very good weapon on all of them. Out of the 4 classes, I only don't use it on Engineer. No, the Heavy does not 'most certainly never use it', I rarely ever use the sandwich.
If you think an item needs more than sparkles and a phong boost (which, I might add, only applies to stock weapons) to be 'special', then, well, okay.[/QUOTE]
Stock is most certainly baseline. Almost all unlocks build off stock, with changing abilities tactics and conditions, which simply makes the stock weapons bland and boring in comparison regardless if it's still a valid weapon.
I think it's better to have a more personalized community item, something not run of the mill and more specific to your class, other wise it's like wearing an all class unusual.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;38472700]Stock is most certainly baseline. Almost all unlocks build off stock, with changing abilities tactics and conditions, which simply makes the stock weapons bland and boring in comparison regardless if it's still a valid weapon.
I think it's better to have a more personalized community item, something not run of the mill and more specific to your class, other wise it's like wearing an all class unusual.[/QUOTE]
most unlocks do build off stock, yes
and in the process of balancing, valve likes to make them overall shittier with a small bonus more often than not
[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;38472713]most unlocks do build off stock, yes
and in the process of balancing, valve likes to make them overall shittier with a small bonus more often than not[/QUOTE]
And regardless if those weapons are over all weaker than stock they still provide a different tactic or ability that still has a place in the game, as bad as back burner is it still has a time and place.
[QUOTE=mooman1080;38472733]And regardless if those weapons are over all weaker than stock they still provide a different tactic or ability that still has a place in the game, as bad as back burner is it still has a time and place.[/QUOTE]
a time and place that is 4:35pm-4:36pm ctf_2fort
aka rarely ever
I'm starting to think people are huge dicks.
Rate me clocks.
[QUOTE=Drury;38472792]I'm starting to think people are huge dicks.
Rate me clocks.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that normal?
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