Major Update Speculation V5: Somewhere over the rainbow - Games

[QUOTE=Armisael;36577524]Upsides: Mr. Balloonicorn Clearly pyrovision is a net upside.[/QUOTE] Also, getting assists from imaginary friends.

All of those changes are extremely insignificant, and I doubt any of them are intended to be downsides. Some of them are bugs or unintended sideffects, others are just petty nitpicking. Pyroland is meant as a texture pack. A cosmetic effect. It is not meant as a balancing feature of the weapon, it's meant as a visual feature of the weapon. It's not meant to make it worse, or harder for you to play the game. It's a visual make-over.

Here's what'd shut you both up: Taunt: meet the pyro. You get it for 'free' when using the rainblower. You can buy it as an action item to not enjoy pyroland. Also a fix comes out so it no longer passes through walls. And before you say anything about an action item being able to kill think about what was said before: it's a lengthy animation that's hard to kill with on an item you can't tell they're using half the time.

I don't want to disable it because I want to taunt kill people or because I think being able to taunt kill with it will have any what so ever impact on the game. I want it as a cosmetic. I want the taunt, because it looks cool. Like a hat. I'd want it even if they disabled its ability to tauntkill.

[QUOTE=Simski;36577558]All of those changes are extremely insignificant, and I doubt any of them are intended to be downsides. Some of them are bugs or unintended sideffects, others extreme are just pretty nitpicking. Pyroland is meant as a texture pack. A cosmetic effect. It is not meant as a balancing feature of the weapon, it's meant as a visual feature of the weapon. It's not meant to make it worse, or harder for you to play the game. It's a visual make-over.[/QUOTE] You are a Medic. You see a burning player run past you and behind a wall! He looks like a blob of this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MzWUx.png[/img] Do you venture out in attempt to figure out which team he is on? That's the problem with Pyrovision. It's hard to tell from Red and Blue, as these particles are replaced: [img]http://i.imgur.com/m6HI8.png[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/SYCm7.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Randdalf;36576992]A taunt kill is just a fun little aside, there is no serious use for it when you're actually playing the game other than killing yourself or AFK players. It is as good as cosmetic.[/QUOTE] but the rainblower can be used to kill people through the gates

[QUOTE=lilguy;36577628]You are a Medic. You see a burning player run past you and behind a wall! He looks like a blob of this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MzWUx.png[/img] Do you venture out in attempt to figure out which team he is on? That's the problem with Pyrovision. It's hard to tell from Red and Blue, as these particles are replaced: [img]http://i.imgur.com/m6HI8.png[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/SYCm7.png[/img][/QUOTE] I barely ever pay attention to the color of the fire, if I see someone on fire, I shoot them. If they don't die, they're probably not an enemy. Anyway, I'm going to the gym now. Bye bye

[QUOTE=Simski;36577649]I barely ever pay attention to the color of the fire, if I see someone on fire, I shoot them. If they don't die, they're probably not an enemy.[/QUOTE] well that's stupid

[QUOTE=Simski;36577649]I barely ever pay attention to the color of the fire, if I see someone on fire, I shoot them. If they don't die, they're probably not an enemy. [/QUOTE] wow...

[QUOTE=Simski;36577649]I barely ever pay attention to the color of the fire, if I see someone on fire, I shoot them. If they don't die, they're probably not an enemy. [/QUOTE] I guess you don't look at the colors of players then? If they don't die, they probably aren't an enemy.

You guys should stop justify Valve's bad decisions. Making cometic items affect gameplay is bad without doubt.

I haven't used Pyroland since day 1 of the update. Looks pretty damn shoddy, if you ask me.

[QUOTE=majan222;36577912]You guys should stop justify Valve's bad decisions. Making cometic items affect gameplay is bad without doubt.[/QUOTE] what if what if the Rainblower isn't a cosmetic item

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36577923]what if what if the Rainblower isn't a cosmetic item[/QUOTE] Remember when people claimed that the Original and Rocketlauncher were completely identical aside from the "cosmetic effect" of the Original appearing in the center of the screen?

[QUOTE=lilguy;36577628]You are a Medic. You see a burning player run past you and behind a wall! He looks like a blob of this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/MzWUx.png[/img] Do you venture out in attempt to figure out which team he is on? That's the problem with Pyrovision. It's hard to tell from Red and Blue, as these particles are replaced: [img]http://i.imgur.com/m6HI8.png[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/SYCm7.png[/img][/QUOTE] This happened to me today. Although I was trying to extinguish a guy as Pyro. Needless to say, he wasn't on my team.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36577923]what if what if the Rainblower isn't a cosmetic item[/QUOTE] What if What if they gave us a flamethrower, with the rainblower taunt

[QUOTE=leonthefox;36578064]What if What if they gave us a flamethrower, with the rainblower taunt[/QUOTE] It's called the Rainblower.

[QUOTE=leonthefox;36578064]What if What if they gave us a flamethrower, with the rainblower taunt[/QUOTE] The Rainblower is a Flamethrower with the Rainblower taunt [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] Ninja'd

[QUOTE=Psychopath12;36578096]It's called the Rainblower.[/QUOTE] I mean, a flamethrower witht he rainblower taunt, that doesn't have the pyroland atribute

so basically a straight upgrade to the flamethrower is what you want

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36578163]so basically a straight upgrade to the flamethrower is what you want[/QUOTE] You are hard to please :v:

I don't like reskins at all, so if there's a weapon with even a tiny bit of uniqueness, I want to justify it as a unique weapon with unique stats.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36577222]but taunts DO effect gameplay. If they didn't the Amputator wouldn't exist. And everything isn't fine, as the Rainblower lacks a recipe, despite being more than a simple reskin.[/QUOTE] stop

I wish they would have released a "Meet the Pyro" taunt item that had him laugh maniacally, raise his flamethrower and spew fire into the sky, ala the "Coming in 2012" screencap. I love the Meet the Medic taunt, I use it ev-er-y day.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36577923]what if what if the Rainblower isn't a cosmetic item[/QUOTE] Then it's "downside" is very stupid since it works only on specific maps and some of the effects can be turned off.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36578163]so basically a straight upgrade to the flamethrower is what you want[/QUOTE] We have straight upgrades to the bonesaw and fireaxe so why not?

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36578163]so basically a straight upgrade to the flamethrower is what you want[/QUOTE] why are you getting so anal about a taunt that means little to nothing in the actual game - are taunt kills breaking your game or something stop sperging, it's a fucking taunt

[QUOTE=majan222;36578250]Then it's "downside" is very stupid since it work on specific maps and some of the effects can be turned off.[/QUOTE] the audio and particle changes still work on every map, and those are the big downsides. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Insane516;36578257]why are you getting so anal about a taunt that means little to nothing in the actual game - are taunt kills breaking your game or something stop sperging, it's a fucking taunt[/QUOTE] taunts are used as balancing agents and can be attributes in of themselves. This is something you can't deny

[QUOTE=Insane516;36578257]why are you getting so anal about a taunt that means little to nothing in the actual game - are taunt kills breaking your game or something stop sperging[/QUOTE] Reskins are one of the lowest-selling things in the Mann Co Store. Why would they continue to add more reskins is beyond me. The Rainblower and Lollichop have the Pyroland effect as their unique attributes, and the former has the killtaunt. They are less like reskins than the Nessie's Nine Iron, Postal Pummeler, or Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36578260]the audio and particle changes still work on every map, and those are the big downsides. [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] taunts are used as balancing agents and can be attributes in of themselves. This is something you can't deny[/QUOTE] no actually most taunts aren't used in normal combat - you're being far fetched