Major Update Speculation V5: Somewhere over the rainbow - Games

[QUOTE=Archimedes;36592510]Because agree rating may be a little unspecific: Yes, they were found in SFM.[/QUOTE] Wait, those are not community-made? They're actually hidden in the real SFM? I think I've missed a lot about the MvM thing

[QUOTE=lemonade1950;36592539][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32006613/jigglehead.gif[/IMG] The pyro's head isn't supposed to jiggle.... right? (not a mod)[/QUOTE] He's just giggling like a mad because she loves what he does.

I still don't really like the concept of Pyros running as fast (or almost as fast) as Scouts. Scouts running fast and dealing major damage in close combat is balanced because they have terrible health and their primary weapon still requires good aiming. Fast Pyros would be horrible, because they have more health than Scouts and flamethrowers are significantly easier to hit enemies with in close combat.

item server down for anyone else?

[QUOTE=cpt. Jebski;36592774]item server down for anyone else?[/QUOTE] Yes. All of steam was offline about 10 minutes ago.

[QUOTE=cpt. Jebski;36592774]item server down for anyone else?[/QUOTE] tonight's the night, etc, etc

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36590184]I've been saying for months now. Cross class reskins. Do it valve, we want it. We want Mantreads on Demoman, and we know you have boots out the ass on the workshop for Demo that you can use. We want (well I want) Family Business on Engineer. We want Gunboats on Demoman[/QUOTE] I know I might be late for the discussion, but I still think they should give the Bootlegger Gunboats' stats. We get rid of a bad reskin in favor of kinda good reskin.

Shall I just make a facepunch bot that says tonight's the night every weekday at 19:00?

well, if they're going to fix anything this week, it'll probably have to be tonight before they get ready for vacation

We've had downtime every now and then for the past few days and the summer update would've come last week if not for Pyromania (the summer update always comes the week before July 4th.) It's plausible.

[QUOTE=Yukoviz;36592896]We've had downtime every now and then for the past few days and the summer update would've come last week if not for Pyromania (the summer update always comes the week before July 4th.) It's plausible.[/QUOTE] I still think the summer sale is gonna arrive shortly after the aftermath of Pyromania (Crates and Ash Piles are removed from backpacks, burnt items stop dropping except maybe the items that survived, etc) I really hope it happens.

Banner sounds broken for anyone else? Seen several soldiers play the anim and heard no sound come from them. Seems there's a lot of bugs related to other people seeing/hearing things from other players atm.

[QUOTE=Devozade;36593009]Banner sounds broken for anyone else? Seen several soldiers play the anim and heard no sound come from them. Seems there's a lot of bugs related to other people seeing/hearing things from other players atm.[/QUOTE] I've had trouble hearing airblasts and huntsman arrows (that woosh when you avoid one) lately, but buff banner is fine. It's an odd bug.

[QUOTE=Devozade;36593009]Banner sounds broken for anyone else? Seen several soldiers play the anim and heard no sound come from them. Seems there's a lot of bugs related to other people seeing/hearing things from other players atm.[/QUOTE] Lol same problem here I did hear a conch though.

[QUOTE=Damian0358;36592871]I know I might be late for the discussion, but I still think they should give the Bootlegger Gunboats' stats. We get rid of a bad reskin in favor of kinda good reskin.[/QUOTE] Bootlegger isn't really a bad reskin, I'm pretty sure it's one of the best reskins, since it actually looks apealling and matches the Demo as well as it overshadows the Wee Booties. By the looks of it the Wee Booties might as well be the bad reskin. Unless you are going in the sense that, it doesn't make sense that a pegleg would increase your turning speed, than it's kinda of non-sensical reskin.

if they gave the bootlegger the sounds it deserves it would be a straight upgrade to the (ugly) booties. I agree though, the Bootlegger might as well be the primary weapon for the stats. it visually beats the booties on every account.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36593087]if they gave the bootlegger the sounds it deserves it would be a straight upgrade to the (ugly) booties. I agree though, the Bootlegger might as well be the primary weapon for the stats. it visually beats the booties on every account.[/QUOTE]I notice the booties way more often than I do the bootlegger, the curved toes are really silhouette changing (I know the bootlegger lops off a whole leg, but I still fail to notice it from time to time compared to the booties somehow)

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/cNGGM.png[/IMG] I've seen these bugs before, but I've noticed a lot of clipping since the update. The Demo Fro was not clipping (for me) before the update, though I remember it clipping a lot last year around Uber Update (the last time I had one). Also, looking at this reminds me: Do you think we'll see a new PDA or Sapper within the next year? I had been hoping a Sapper would come with this update, but I guess they just added that slot for the Strange version.

[QUOTE=NeoDement;36593311]I notice the booties way more often than I do the bootlegger, the curved toes are really silhouette changing (I know the bootlegger lops off a whole leg, but I still fail to notice it from time to time compared to the booties somehow)[/QUOTE] Unique sounds would help that. Armisael is going to get a video going today, so you'll finally be able to actually hear your weapon as it was suppose to be.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36593380]Unique sounds would help that. Armisael is going to get a video going today, so you'll finally be able to actually hear your weapon as it was suppose to be.[/QUOTE] Is they're any other nifty unused content? I remember they're being a lot of unused content that just adds extra small details to the game, but Valve simply forgot to implement them at the end. It's a shame since, I always loved small details, it just adds a little more charm to a game.

[QUOTE=TheRealFierce;36593544]Is they're any other nifty unused content? I remember they're being a lot of unused content that just adds extra small details to the game, but Valve simply forgot to implement them at the end. I always loved small detail, it just adds a little more charm to a game.[/QUOTE] well the scottish handshake has a broken model included in the files v:v:v

[QUOTE=TheRealFierce;36593544]Is they're any other nifty unused content? I remember they're being a lot of unused content that just adds extra small details to the game, but Valve simply forgot to implement them at the end. It's a shame since, I always loved small details, it just adds a little more charm to a game.[/QUOTE] Half a dozen items work perfectly with paint, but aren't toggled on. Two items are decalable, but it's not turned on. A handful of weapons have custom draw and/or reload sounds that just don't work (even if they seem to be set up correctly). Black Box and Original have custom explosion sounds. There's a few unused voice lines still remaining. Engineer has an unused taunt.

[QUOTE=Damian0358;36592871]I know I might be late for the discussion, but I still think they should give the Bootlegger Gunboats' stats. We get rid of a bad reskin in favor of kinda good reskin.[/QUOTE] I would be in favor of this, even though I personally still enjoy using the Bootlegger for the extra HP[sp]and for FASHION![/sp] Hell, I wouldn't mind if they slapped on a 50% less self-inflicted damage to it right now. It would make it as viable with the sticky launcher as with the targe (since it would have barely any at all effect with the targe), and it would not need a new downside since losing the nade launcher is still a pretty large downside for 50% less self-inflicted damage and +25 HP

[QUOTE=Simski;36593603]I would be in favor of this, even though I personally still enjoy using the Bootlegger for the extra HP[sp]and for FASHION![/sp][/QUOTE] I think they might as well just give free Booties to everyone who had a Bootlegger, so people who never had booties to begin with can still enjoy it's affects (not that it changes much in the first place). Then those who miss the old Bootlegger effect can just reskin it on Booties with "expert" coding. By expert I mean simply swapping the names on a few files and coding...

[QUOTE=TheRealFierce;36593693]I think they might as well just give free Booties to everyone who had a Bootlegger, so people who never had booties to begin with can still enjoy it's affects (not that it changes much in the first place). Then those who miss the old Bootlegger effect can just reskin it on Booties with "expert" coding. By expert I mean simply swapping the names on a few files and coding...[/QUOTE] I think that's unneccesary. Just slap on 50% less self-inflicted damage to them. It would be a straight buff, but it would only make them a little bit more viable to people who use it with the sticky launcher. It would serve as a different type of gunboats for Demo, that although doesn't give you full immunity to stickyjumping, gives you +25 hp. A lot more unique than simply copying Soldier's gunboats and giving them to Demo. [editline]2nd July 2012[/editline] Many competitive players does after all think that making Demo's able to stickyjump infinitely and also still dealing damage with their sticky launcher would be way too overpowered, so unlike the Gunboats this could not be used infinitely.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;36591904]Before you complain about the new Soldier weapon, learn to use it with the Shotgun. I had an issue with the Scorch Shot until I realized it is perfectly paired with the Phlog. You have to stretch conventions a bit.[/QUOTE] The Detonator is still a better match for the Phlog.

i know im late on the tank-being-massive note, but what if the tank model spawns robots? maybe to stop the waves and end the round you have to venture into a really well defended tank base thing and destroy the production lines?

I assume this hasn't already been shared, solely for the fact that nobody else would give enough of a shit to mention such a mundane detail. In the item schema, there's an attribute for the miscellaneous items that count toward assists in Pyroland. The attribute's name is "counts as assister is some kind of pet this update is going to be awesome" :3 e: haha, well at least being late means it wasn't too lame to note

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36593583]Half a dozen items work perfectly with paint, but aren't toggled on. Two items are decalable, but it's not turned on. A handful of weapons have custom draw and/or reload sounds that just don't work (even if they seem to be set up correctly). Black Box and Original have custom explosion sounds. There's a few unused voice lines still remaining. Engineer has an unused taunt.[/QUOTE] I can't remeber what the other decalable item was, but I know Sandvich safe was one of them. And I think the Engineer had a couple more Unused taunts, one which was similar to his Guitar Taunt, one puking and the other one was him bonking his head, as well as the Soldier and Heavy having a unused taunt, but it wasn't anything interesting just them showing something off.

[QUOTE=ned_ballad;36593087]if they gave the bootlegger the sounds it deserves it would be a straight upgrade to the (ugly) booties.[/QUOTE] so people being able to tell there's a grenadelauncher-less demoman around is an upgrade? I don't think you fully understand the meaning of "upgrade", especially considering how you believe tauntkills matter.