Great work guys! Just checked out the update news on the wiki, so much FP stuff got in! Well done to Napy too for finally getting one of his items in :D Happy Halloween!
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thx[/QUOTE]
KILL IT WITH THE FIRE!
KILL IT NOW!
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Void Skull;38204350]Come on, man. I already have to deal with my baby being restricted, and you're asking for a download of it so I can't even make a profit of it?[/QUOTE]
I hate that the Commander Cortex is under Halloween restriction... It's beautiful misc...
Anyway Spark have some bucks I just purchased it.
[QUOTE=coverop;38205213]Commander Cortex[/QUOTE]
i need a nametag
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38204439]what's the point of posting your items in the mod emporium if you don't release them as a mod, isn't there a seperate workshop thread for that[/QUOTE]
I thought this was more of a thread where you go to get some critique and ideas for your TF2 items.
Cos the workshop thread is where you go to say "hey I finished".
Or would you like this thread to become only mod releases?
I for one am happy for our emporium goers for getting their stuff official and support them fully, asking them to make a mod version after it's in the game is like asking Nintendo to make their Mario games free.
That's a big fuck you to everyone else who DID buy it, and the creators.
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205277]
That's a big fuck you to everyone else who DID buy it, and the creators.[/QUOTE]
That's not the case at all
[QUOTE=HyperTails;38205289]That's not the case at all[/QUOTE]
What, people want a mod for the cortex to replace other hats because the cortex is holiday restricted.
First, people won't buy the hat cos it's holiday restricted.
Second, people won't buy it cos they can mod their other hats for free.
Sure, with a mod, you're using the hat, which is neat and all.
But mods don't put food on the table.
Sadly enough, this world requires money.
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205303]What, people want a mod for the cortex to replace other hats because the cortex is holiday restricted.
First, people won't buy the hat cos it's holiday restricted.
Second, people won't buy it cos they can mod their other hats for free.
Sure, with a mod, you're using the hat, which is neat and all.
But mods don't put food on the table.
Sadly enough, this world requires money.[/QUOTE]
plutonidome anti-piracy act of 2012
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205303]What, people want a mod for the cortex to replace other hats because the cortex is holiday restricted.
First, people won't buy the hat cos it's holiday restricted.
Second, people won't buy it cos they can mod their other hats for free.
Sure, with a mod, you're using the hat, which is neat and all.
But mods don't put food on the table.
Sadly enough, this world requires money.[/QUOTE]
I use mods only for Gmod.
I bought the hat because I promised that to Sparky.
And yeah... this world runs only on money.
The cortex command being holiday restricted is just such a slap in the face. I cannot believe Valve would do this.
Seriously guys, instead of begging for a mod version, email and tell them to un-restrict it.
[QUOTE=Populus89;38205338]The cortex command being holiday restricted is just such a slap in the face. I cannot believe Valve would do this.
Seriously guys, instead of begging for a mod version, email and tell them to un-restrict it.[/QUOTE]
plutonidome anti-restriction act of 2012
[QUOTE=Populus89;38205338]The cortex command being holiday restricted is just such a slap in the face. I cannot believe Valve would do this.
Seriously guys, instead of begging for a mod version, email and tell them to un-restrict it.[/QUOTE]
un-restrict everything then.
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205303]What, people want a mod for the cortex to replace other hats because the cortex is holiday restricted.
First, people won't buy the hat cos it's holiday restricted.
Second, people won't buy it cos they can mod their other hats for free.
Sure, with a mod, you're using the hat, which is neat and all.
But mods don't put food on the table.
Sadly enough, this world requires money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205277]I thought this was more of a thread where you go to get some critique and ideas for your TF2 items.
Cos the workshop thread is where you go to say "hey I finished".
Or would you like this thread to become only mod releases?
I for one am happy for our emporium goers for getting their stuff official and support them fully, asking them to make a mod version after it's in the game is like asking Nintendo to make their Mario games free.
That's a big fuck you to everyone else who DID buy it, and the creators.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously saying the reasoning behind not releasing mods is because you won't buy it? That's horrible reasoning, I don't use mods because I don't want to buy things, I use them so I can appreciate it on a different hat, maybe more common, or I'll get a mod version so I can appreciate the hat without paying absurd amounts of money(I'm not not buying it because there is a mod version, I'm not buying it because of the price, but if you release a mod version, people can appreciate it anyway.). The fact that this has become all about money is sickening. We're forgetting our origins here, the point of the mod emporium was to make mods and being able to submit and get things in-game was just a bonus ( a huge bonus of course, but still not supposed to be the main focus) I'm not saying it should be only mod releases, but it's getting to the point where it's 80% workshop links and 20% mod releases. I'm not saying they shouldn't submit shit, what no, I support everyone trying to get shit official but that does that mean you shouldn't make mods? Is everyone so greedy they can't release it for the small group that wants it as a mod for a different hat? Hell, that's not even the problem, the problem is people that make things for the workshop don't make a mod version, before they're even in-game.
It might just be I can't put myself in the position of having things in-game, but if the community is requesting me to release an item that has gotten ingame as a mod so they can use it without paying absurd amounts of money, I'd be fine with it. I realize it's different for people who rely on items for money (which, imo, is wrong, TF2 items are not a reliable source of income to me), but that's usually not the case.
Also: It's not like every TF2 player hangs here on Facepunch. So if you post a link too a mod here the majority of people wont even know that it exists.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38205445]Are you seriously saying the reasoning behind not releasing mods is because you won't buy it? That's horrible reasoning, I don't use mods because I don't want to buy things, I use them so I can appreciate it on a different hat, maybe more common, or I'll get a mod version so I can appreciate the hat without paying absurd amounts of money. The fact that this has become all about money is sickening. We're forgetting our origins here, the point of the mod emporium was to make mods and being able to submit and get things in-game was just a bonus ( a huge bonus of course, but still not supposed to be the main focus) I'm not saying it should be only mod releases, but it's getting to the point where it's 80% workshop links and 20% mod releases. I'm not saying they shouldn't submit shit, what no, I support everyone trying to get shit official but that does that mean you shouldn't make mods? Is everyone so greedy they can't release it for the small group that wants it as a mod for a different hat? Hell, that's not even the problem, the problem is people that make things for the workshop don't make a mod version, before they're even in-game.
It might just be I can't put myself in the position of having things in-game, but if the community is requesting me to release an item that has gotten ingame as a mod so they can use it without paying absurd amounts of money, I'd be fine with it. I realize it's different for people who rely on items for money (which, imo, is wrong, TF2 items are not a reliable source of income to me), but that's usually not the case.[/QUOTE]
I don't wanna sound like a dick but, if you weren't going to buy it anyway, why should we make it for people like you?
The reason I don't make mods anymore is because it's gotten to the point where, because it's so gotten so thankless; and I dislike these tiny ass banners we have to use. (I put my mods up on my twitter/tumblr because of such.)
And to be honest, we probably won't even talk about the Cortex in a weeks time, since someone else by then would've made an awesome hat.
20% of mod releases is still more mod releases than we used to have each thread.
"Hey, you made an awesome hat, can I have it for free?"
So because we won't spend real money on virtual items, we're thankless? I can be thankful for mods without spending money that I, MYSELF, have to earn. Not everyone is a rich kid whose parents buy them everything. Sorry I don't think to show my thanks I need to spend a good portion of my money on a fucking virtual item. This isn't just about the Cortex Command, it's the fact that NOBODY releases mods anymore, especially the big names in this contributor deal.
dude...I don't want to sound like a dick either but...you're spoiled, you think 1 hat is really worth like 7 bucks? I'm sorry but I've never agreed with the prices, but you're acting like hats are something of extreme usefulness and value.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38205556]So because we won't spend real money on virtual items, we're thankless? I can be thankful for mods without spending money that I, MYSELF, have to earn. Not everyone is a rich kid whose parents buy them everything. Sorry I don't think to show my thanks I need to spend a good portion of my money on a fucking virtual item. This isn't just about the Cortex Command, it's the fact that NOBODY releases mods anymore, especially the big names in this contributor deal.
dude...I don't want to sound like a dick either but...you're spoiled, you think 1 hat is really worth like 7 bucks? I'm sorry but I've never agreed with the prices, but you're acting like hats are something of extreme usefulness and value.[/QUOTE]
Ofcourse not everyone's a rich kid, but to be honest, TF2 hats aren't that expensive, no one's telling you to collect every single hat in the game, hell I'm not even telling you to go buy it.
If you don't care so much about virtual items, then face reality, not all items are going to get a mod version.
Spoiled, how so? I'm the creator of the Killer's Kabuto, one of the poorest selling items because it was released before manconnommy, so by that update, everyone who wanted one, already had one, so no one bought it.
Creator of the Hat of Cards, you can't even buy that. Hats are useless and are and their value is only worth whatever to who ever owns it.
Emporium to Valve: We're all very disappointed in you.
I feel like mentioning that anyone can easily hex any in game item to replace any other item if they feel like it so what's the harm of saving them the trouble and release it as a mod anyway?
i mean if you already have the stuff set up already, i can understand why you wouldn't bother otherwise
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205527]I don't wanna sound like a dick but, if you weren't going to buy it anyway, why should we make it for people like you?
The reason I don't make mods anymore is because it's gotten to the point where, because it's so gotten so thankless; and I dislike these tiny ass banners we have to use. (I put my mods up on my twitter/tumblr because of such.)
And to be honest, we probably won't even talk about the Cortex in a weeks time, since someone else by then would've made an awesome hat.
20% of mod releases is still more mod releases than we used to have each thread.
"Hey, you made an awesome hat, can I have it for free?"[/QUOTE]
Since when was -->MODs<-- about making money?
And how can you say that people are thankless? Aren't the fact that people like your item so much that they download it and replace other models that other people made the biggest "thank you" you could get?
Do you really have to admire and thank people for every thing they do?
It's getting a bit overboard with all the idolizing in this forum, some people are treated like goods but most people here are just posing in the backgrounds. Without anybody even bothering too comment on there work.
And thats thankless if you ask me!
Edit: Annoyed pageking.
So does anyone have some christmas concepts already? I'm dying to make so damn many items that I can't go unnoticed at least.
That is if hlmv ever starts working again
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/U0yTA.png[/IMG]
Sent to Valve.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38205556]So because we won't spend real money on virtual items, we're thankless? I can be thankful for mods without spending money that I, MYSELF, have to earn. Not everyone is a rich kid whose parents buy them everything. Sorry I don't think to show my thanks I need to spend a good portion of my money on a fucking virtual item. This isn't just about the Cortex Command, it's the fact that NOBODY releases mods anymore, especially the big names in this contributor deal.
dude...I don't want to sound like a dick either but...you're spoiled, you think 1 hat is really worth like 7 bucks? I'm sorry but I've never agreed with the prices, but you're acting like hats are something of extreme usefulness and value.[/QUOTE]
You are being hypocritical here, and you know it.
Nobody has to release mods. And no one is entitled to be able to download them.
Furthermore, money now provides incentive for more and more modders to make more and more items. I would like to say that due to the influx of new creators, the unwillingness to release their work evens out, and there is about the same amount of mods as before. I do however know that is not true. It's simply a matter of profitability. Making an item might yield profit. Releasing a mod does not, so many people simply do not want to put time and effort to it. Money does indeed change things.
The tf2 modding community was simply consumed by the workshop-centric community. Many people who came here have not previously released mods, or didn't intent to do so in the first place. It is only the influence of people like you that there are any mods at all. Sad as it is there is not much anyone can do about it.
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205614]Ofcourse not everyone's a rich kid, but to be honest, TF2 hats aren't that expensive, no one's telling you to collect every single hat in the game, hell I'm not even telling you to go buy it.
If you don't care so much about virtual items, then face reality, not all items are going to get a mod version.
Spoiled, how so? I'm the creator of the Killer's Kabuto, one of the poorest selling items because it was released before manconnommy, so by that update, everyone who wanted one, already had one, so no one bought it.
Creator of the Hat of Cards, you can't even buy that. Hats are useless and are and their value is only worth whatever to who ever owns it.[/QUOTE]
You're spoiled because you think for somebody to appreciate something of yours, they have to spend money on it. The Killer's Kabuto is a great hat, and it looks good, and I like seeing it. I appreciate it in other words. Did I spend money on it? No. Would I like to see a mod that makes it for a more common hat so I can see it on soldier more often? Yes.
It's not that I don't care about virtual items, it's that I can't spend money on a hat I want to have every time JUST to appreciate it's looks.
TF2 hats aren't expensive? [url]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Builder%27s_Blueprints[/url]
$7.50 for that. That's about what I make per hour. Does that look like an hour of polishing 18 wheeler tires work's worth? Of course, it all comes down to how much you like this and that, but, yeah, that's expensive to me, and expensive to a lot of people.
[QUOTE=ArakanI;38205634]Since when was -->MODs<-- about making money?
And how can you say that people are thankless? Aren't the fact that people like your item so much that they download it and replace other models that other people made the biggest "thank you" you could get?
Do you really have to admire and thank people for every thing they do?
It's getting a bit overboard with all the idolizing in this forum, some people are treated like goods but most people here are just posing in the backgrounds. Without anybody even bothering too comment on there work.
And thats thankless if you ask me!
Edit: Annoyed pageking.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you'll understand when you get constantly asked "mod version when?".
I dunno, maybe I'm just old and jaded from back when the original emporium was all about replacing just the one hat because people wanted something different.
Now there's over 100 different hats and miscs to choose from, and you all still not satisfied.
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38205696]You're spoiled because you think for somebody to appreciate something of yours, they have to spend money on it. The Killer's Kabuto is a great hat, and it looks good, and I like seeing it. I appreciate it in other words. Did I spend money on it? No. Would I like to see a mod that makes it for a more common hat so I can see it on soldier more often? Yes.
It's not that I don't care about virtual items, it's that I can't spend money on a hat I want to have every time JUST to appreciate it's looks.
TF2 hats aren't expensive? [url]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Builder%27s_Blueprints[/url]
$7.50 for that. That's about what I make per hour. Does that look like an hour of polishing 18 wheeler tires work's worth? Of course, it all comes down to how much you like this and that, but, yeah, that's expensive to me, and expensive to a lot of people.[/QUOTE]
No, you don't need to spend money to appreciate a hat, there's trading and random drops.
You can blame the trading post for imposing monetary values on everything.
$7.50 is cheaper than a medium sized meal at MacDonalds here in Australia.
If you don't want to spend money, then don't. I don't care if you don't pay for my item.
But I'm not going to care about giving it to you for free, when you can technically get it for free yourself.
I put some effort into making an item, you can put some effort in to get it, or sit there admiring it :P
[QUOTE=Eeshton;38205696]You're spoiled because you think for somebody to appreciate something of yours, they have to spend money on it. The Killer's Kabuto is a great hat, and it looks good, and I like seeing it. I appreciate it in other words. Did I spend money on it? No. [/QUOTE]
You could also say that you are spoiled, because you expect an item that does in fact require an amount of work should be given to you for free.
yall need to stop caring so much, that's what i think
why put so much effort into telling people why you don't want to do stuff?
just say "don't feel like it" and move on
why care about people who don't want to do stuff?
mind your own business and move on
[QUOTE=Populus89;38205675]You are being hypocritical here, and you know it.
Nobody has to release mods. And no one is entitled to be able to download them.
Furthermore, money now provides incentive for more and more modders to make more and more items. I would like to say that due to the influx of new creators, the unwillingness to release their work evens out, and there is about the same amount of mods as before. I do however know that is not true. It's simply a matter of profitability. Making an item might yield profit. Releasing a mod does not, so many people simply do not want to put time and effort to it. Money does indeed change things.
The tf2 modding community was simply consumed by the workshop-centric community. Many people who came here have not previously released mods, or didn't intent to do so in the first place. It is only the influence of people like you that there are any mods at all. Sad as it is there is not much anyone can do about it.[/QUOTE]
I never said you had to release mods but it's getting to the point where almost nobody does, and unless I'm just subconsciously ignoring it, there hasn't been much mod releases, especially by big names. I'm just going to assume this is still meant to be a mod emporium, and say that if you're going to post here, you should release whatever you're posing as a mod. If you want critique, that's cool and all, post some WIP shots as much as you want, but if you're going to actively post WIP shots in here and then when you're done, you ONLY post it on the workshop, does that not seem like a slap in the face? It's not that much goddamn effort to release something as a mod, it's not some super-duty chore that is just a huge burden every time you have to do it.
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=blaholtzen;38205716]yall need to stop caring so much, that's what i think
why put so much effort into telling people why you don't want to do stuff?
just say "don't feel like it" and move on
why care about people who don't want to do stuff?
mind your own business and move on[/QUOTE]
yeah lets just be apathetic guys
Stop with this Drama. Seriously... you only makes creators / authors sad about it.
[QUOTE=AyesDyef;38205703]Maybe you'll understand when you get constantly asked "mod version when?".
I dunno, maybe I'm just old and jaded from back when the original emporium was all about replacing just the one hat because people wanted something different.
Now there's over 100 different hats and miscs to choose from, and you all still not satisfied.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to release it as a replacement for every item in game just because people ask for it?
You could just release it for a bunch of items your happy with it replacing, then letting people decompile it and recompile it if they want too.
Also: "Maybe you'll understand when you get constantly asked "mod version when?"." thats REALLY thankless if you asks me...
[QUOTE=Populus89;38205714]You could also say that you are spoiled, because you expect an item that does in fact require an amount of work should be given to you for free.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know it requires work but it's not like we're dealing with some rare mineral that will be put to any use, it's a virtual item that is appreciated only for it's looks (besides a weapon). If it were up to me, items would probably cost at most 2.50, but you can't be "fair" in marketing I suppose. Gotta make a profit somehow even though, it didn't cost anything to make.
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