[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;38371256]Should I ignore this or not take it serious and react to your inhospitality?[/QUOTE]
You're acting like a cunt to me, and unless you have the memory of a goldfish or something or doesn't visit parts of facepunch I attend to a lot, then you should know that when someone acts like a cunt to me I act like a cunt back. I have mood swings. I try to keep civil, but I can't fucking act civil when I'm being gangbanged by smartasses
[QUOTE=Simski;38371252]See
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I'm like a food critic. You don't necessarily have to know how to make good food, but you have to have the ability to distinguish tastes well.[/QUOTE]
How can i tell you know what you're talking about when you're critiquing my work? When other contributors critique my work i have visual proof that shows me they know what they are talking about.
*Edit: Rushed in under wrong impression, apologies across the board.
[QUOTE=Simski;38371224]If you serve shit, I will call it shit. Simple as that.
If the chef is good, I won't have to send back his meal because it's filled with flies and hair.[/QUOTE]
Why would his shit be filled with flies and hair? Unless you mean that flies and hair is the good option over shit?
[QUOTE=Simski;38371296]You're acting like a cunt to me, and unless you have the memory of a goldfish or something or doesn't visit parts of facepunch I attend to a lot, then you should know that when someone acts like a cunt to me I act like a cunt back. I have mood swings. I try to keep civil, but I can't fucking act civil when I'm being gangbanged by smartasses[/QUOTE]
If you don't want to be gangbanged, don't walk into the wrong alleys.
Everytime you walk in here everything goes apeshit, if you cant act civil or hold your shit together there's a crystal clear and simple solution.
Cuttin' off the offtopic here, the link to the lod pack still hasn't been fixed.
[QUOTE='[Square];38371315']How can i tell you know what you're talking about when you're critiquing my work? When other contributors critique my work i have visual proof that shows me they know what they are talking about.[/QUOTE]
Because I know the artstyle. Just because I can't model myself, doesn't mean when I can't tell when something is badly modeled or textured. Just because I can't model doesn't mean I can't tell when an item will conflict with a lot of other items. Just because I can't model doesn't mean I can't recognize the stereotypes of the characters the models are created for and know if they fit them well or not.
I don't say a lot about the technical stuff, because that is an area I lack knowledge of due to my inability to model. However I have played this game ever since release, I've read all the backstory, I've looked at all the Meet the videos, I've studied all the characters stereotypes in depth, and I've been hanging out with modelers for a very, VERY long time.
[QUOTE=Simski;38371296]You're acting like a cunt to me, and unless you have the memory of a goldfish or something or doesn't visit parts of facepunch I attend to a lot, then you should know that when someone acts like a cunt to me [B]I act like a cunt back.[/B] I have mood swings. I try to keep civil, but[B] I can't fucking act civil[/B] when I'm being gangbanged by smartasses[/QUOTE]
This is [I]not our fault.[/I]
[QUOTE=mutated;38371371]This is [I]not our fault.[/I][/QUOTE]
Good work bolding only the parts that work in your favor, completely disproves my point, yup
[editline]8th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;38371327]If you don't want to be gangbanged, don't walk into the wrong alleys.
Everytime you walk in here everything goes apeshit, if you cant act civil or hold your shit together there's a crystal clear and simple solution.[/QUOTE]
I fucking acted civil, I did not start this. I react to hostility with hostility, but I rarely start it. Captain Chalky and Spark started it this time. You also keep acting hostile as fuck like you have some sort of personal vendetta against me too, which really isn't in any way a help in making me want to act any friendlier.
[QUOTE=Simski;38371370]Because I know the artstyle. Just because I can't model myself, doesn't mean when I can't tell when something is badly modeled or textured. Just because I can't model doesn't mean I can't tell when an item will conflict with a lot of other items. Just because I can't model doesn't mean I can't recognize the stereotypes of the characters the models are created for and know if they fit them well or not.
I don't say a lot about the technical stuff, because that is an area I lack knowledge of due to my inability to model. However I have played this game ever since release, I've read all the backstory, I've looked at all the Meet the videos, I've studied all the characters stereotypes in depth, and I've been hanging out with modelers for a very, VERY long time.[/QUOTE]
Pretty generic average guy?
Knowing is a different thing than putting it actually to the test and [I]work [/I]with it.
Which is what the nice folk here in the emporium do, to give criticism and opinions is fine as to what's this thread is for but your opinion aint more or less than anyone else here.
[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;38371415]to give criticism and opinions is fine as to what's this thread is for but your opinion aint more or less than anyone else here.[/QUOTE]
Then stop fucking getting to goddamn worked up about it
I think that arguing to try and prove that you don't start arguments isn't very productive (not depending on whether you are right or not).
[QUOTE=MiniGeek;38371443]I think that arguing to try and prove that you don't start arguments isn't very productive (not depending on whether you are right or not).[/QUOTE]
Who's got the sweetest disposition?
One guess, that's who?
Who'd never, ever start an argument?
Who never shows a bit of temperament?
Who's never wrong but always right?
Who'd never dream of starting a fight?
Who gets stuck with all the bad luck?
No one - but Donald Duck!
[QUOTE=Simski;38371442]Then stop fucking getting to goddamn worked up about it just because you don't agree with me, jeez[/QUOTE]
Did my first post pointing out my opinion disagree with you?
Is the post you quoted worked up and using offensive words?
I'm simply stating my opinion, which is exactly what you do here everytime.
[QUOTE=Frying Dutchman;38371463]Did my first post pointing out my opinion disagree with you?
Is the post you quoted worked up and using offensive words?
I'm simply stating my opinion, which is exactly what you do here everytime.[/QUOTE]
You made this argument about me instead about the opinions we disagreed on.
This topic could still have been about the game, but you made it personal instead. So now we have a full out shitstorm.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;38371246]I still don't understand what's wrong with "unoriginality". With the circus that TF2 is these days, unoriginality is original. Boring is rare. Simple is not to be found. Fitting? What's that?[/QUOTE]
okay but using Mann Co. on a coat isn't "simple" nor is it "fitting"
What're we arguring about again? I don't really care, arguring seems pointless waste of time.
I'm working on a BlazeBlue HUD if you haven't payed attention in the GC or just generally go in there. I'll post some progress shortly.
TF2 Emporium 49: Logo design edition
[QUOTE=Simski;38371509]You made this argument about me instead about the opinions we disagreed on.
This topic could still have been about the game, but you made it personal instead. So now we have a full out shitstorm.[/QUOTE]
Funny as you don't reply to my arguments half of the time.
But fair enough I've made my point with the very first post about you and I'm willing to discuss actual relevant matters seeing as thats easier to acknowledge.
I want to rate that post heart and box simultaneously.
these discussions do increase the quality of work that comes out of the emporium. it would help if people would stop questioning each others' place in the discussion. don't make this personal.
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;38371099]cant deny its originality[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I'm pretty sure this one was posted before that hat was created.
[IMG]http://nukeaduke.com/img/scoutHat.jpg[/IMG]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCBGBlToWUA[/media]
Current emporium feeling.
Can anyone else access the Workshop form the in-game menu? Says connection error for me! :( Sad times! I was ready to test!
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;38371099]cant deny its originality[/QUOTE]
giving a standard of minimum originality doesn't eliminate ability to give a standard for a maximum
And to think all this arguing was caused by a proof of concept.
I also really like the top hat idea.
Was about to make my own when I jumped in the argument emporium.
About done with this, here is a neat promo I made!
[T]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35490615/StealthyShotgun/promo.png[/T]
I wish I could make shit look better though. The gun looks cool in the model viewer, but once I put it in game I just feel like it looks like shit. :(
My five cents on everything:
I think a lot - but certainly not all - of Simski's opinions insightful and worth taking seriously, but he has a tendency to not know when to stop arguing in favor of them.
I see no reason why one would need to create stuff to be able to give feedback to said stuff. I mean, the average TF2 contributor has probably thought harder about things like the TF2 style and theme than the average non-contributor, but that doesn't mean there aren't non-contributor's who have thought a lot about those things as well.
I think using the Mann Co logo on stuff is acceptable, but making up new brands is neater and [URL="http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Companies"]fits the TF2 'lore'[/URL] just as well or better.
I, as a result of my conservative stance on the topic of what fits and doesn't fit the game, don't think the comics should be used as a measure of what fits and not. While they are entertaining and enjoyable, I think they tend to stray quite far from the original theme of the game.
I think the bowler hat silhouette logo is the best one by far:
[QUOTE=blaholtzen;38370930][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39556064/HATlolgo31.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I think you could go very abstract with the "A" and people would still know it says hat. Like having the entire tophat fill in as the "A" and maybe a very slight triangle over the top or something, very small just to hint it's an A.
Have the hat shape itself be the underside of the "arch" in the A. Or perhaps go with a bathroom-stall styled male silhouette, with a hat on top.
I'll do a quick mockup in paint to illustrate what I'm saying.
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