Stuff that annoys you in TF2: Constructor doesn't make this thread Edition - Games

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37702649]offensive abilities often underestimated, being able to kill a level 3 sentry in two hits? Awesome.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously trying to tell me that running up to a level 3 sentry with your melee is a good strategy?

[QUOTE=Simski;37702676]Are you seriously trying to tell me that running up to a level 3 sentry with your melee is a good strategy?[/QUOTE] Corners, badwater last area, distractions, and flanking using detonator, there are plenty of ways to safely approach a level 3.

[QUOTE=Drury;37702667]Spies got plenty of time and room to escape flamethrower itself, assuming they're good enough, but when pyro just puffs you away there's not much you can do.[/QUOTE] Nope. Really, the only exception is dead ringer spies which I will admit it exceeds at compared to other methods. Unless the Pyro is retarded as fuck and only does one minor puff, or doesn't use his shotgun/flaregun when the Spy gets out of range. The chances of a Spy surviving a close range encounter with the Spy is so insignificantly small that the axstinguisher really doesn't do any difference. It can even save them if they're lucky enough to have the Pyro miss. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=slapdown3;37702687]Corners, badwater last area, distractions, and flanking using detonator, there are plenty of ways to safely approach a level 3.[/QUOTE] In all of those situations, you'd be better off and at less risk using your flamethrower

[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;37702658]I hate what they did to Pomson, it piercing people was not the issue anyway and that made it fun for me.[/QUOTE] Wanna know something funny? Valve suggested these nerfs which SPUF can choose only 1: >Drain in first hit >Decrease the hitbox >No penetration >No drain Now...Which nerf did SPUF choosed? No penetration.

Wasn't the issue anyway that Medic's couldn't hide behind their patients? In that regards, the nerf seemed rather fitting.

[QUOTE=Simski;37702822]Wasn't the issue anyway that Medic's couldn't hide behind their patients? In that regards, the nerf seemed rather fitting.[/QUOTE] You can always hide behind a prop or a wall..

[QUOTE=KenjiKusanagi;37702789]Wanna know something funny? Valve suggested these nerfs which SPUF can choose only 1: >Drain in first hit >Decrease the hitbox >No penetration >No drain Now...Which nerf did SPUF choosed? No penetration.[/QUOTE] That place is full of braindead morons, somehow I'm not surprised. [QUOTE=Simski;37702822]Wasn't the issue anyway that Medic's couldn't hide behind their patients? In that regards, the nerf seemed rather fitting.[/QUOTE] People wanted a gun for Engy which they could shoot from behind their buildings, I'd be okay with it not having any draining properties even if it meant it was just a Bison for Engineer, but removing the piercing shots while leaving the draining and the bullshit hitbox kinda ruined it for me.

[QUOTE=KenjiKusanagi;37702789]Wanna know something funny? Valve suggested these nerfs which SPUF can choose only 1: >Drain in first hit >Decrease the hitbox >No penetration >No drain Now...Which nerf did SPUF choosed? No penetration.[/QUOTE] I thought nobody was stupid enough to choose no penetration, unless Valve skipped over all mildly sensible people there.

[QUOTE=Ripper Roo;37702863]People wanted a gun for Engy which they could shoot from behind their buildings, I'd be okay with it not having any draining properties even if it meant it was just a Bison for Engineer, but removing the piercing shots while leaving the draining and the bullshit hitbox kinda ruined it for me.[/QUOTE] Don't forget the boosted damage to "compensate."

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;37702416]It's possible the Engie was backstabbed or killed in some other way. Or maybe they Eureka Effect'd back to spawn for more metal and, while away, the Spies sapped the fuck out of their sentry and teleporters.[/QUOTE] My favorite thing to do is just watch nests and when one gets sapped and stabbed I run down, burn the spy and remove the sappers. When the engi returns I ready the high five taunt.

[QUOTE=Simski;37702650]In which case, the Pyro just fucked the Spy over for playing his class the exact way he's supposed to.[/QUOTE] Isn't that the exact way you're supposed to play Pyro?

[QUOTE=Escargotage;37703341]Isn't that the exact way you're supposed to play Pyro?[/QUOTE] By being a massive asshole and a sole cause of stalemates? No, you're supposed to take care of Spies, the Engies are supposed to take care of their buildings.

[QUOTE=Simski;37703448]By being a massive asshole and a sole cause of stalemates?[/QUOTE] If one spy is the difference between a lose and a stalemate you should probably disconnect from that server. I don't get what the big problem is, so the pyro trades off a combo for increased spy counter, defensively camping nests instead of going for objectives or kills.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37703463]I don't get what the big problem is, so the pyro trades off a combo for increased spy counter, defensively camping nests instead of going for objectives or kills.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.celsias.com/media/uploads/admin/blindfold-guy.jpg[/IMG] [editline]when[/editline] Don't camp with a friggin' engie, let him do his job. Go out there. The homewrecker does not bind you to the nest, you have other things to do. [editline]when[/editline] is you

[QUOTE=Spherithex;37703631][IMG]http://www.celsias.com/media/uploads/admin/blindfold-guy.jpg[/IMG] [editline]when[/editline] Don't camp with a friggin' engie, let him do his job. Go out there. The homewrecker does not bind you to the nest, you have other things to do.[/QUOTE] I didn't directly say using the homewrecker limits you to pybro stuff, I've already said it has offensive abilities, just didn't want to repeat myself. :(

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37703653]I didn't directly say using the homewrecker limits you to pybro stuff, I've already said it has offensive abilities, just didn't want to repeat myself. :([/QUOTE] [QUOTE=slapdown3;37703463]I don't get what the big problem is, so the pyro trades off a combo for increased spy counter, defensively camping nests instead of going for [B][U]objectives[/U][/B] or kills.[/QUOTE]

The fact that i just found GastrictTank out of nowhere [IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596981956777127262/CABF4ADBD717EB2AB262132DDAFDC6BF30F34DE5/[/IMG] JUST NEEDED 23 MORE UGH EDIT: Oh shit he's watching this thread. BETTER RUN

[QUOTE=slapdown3] I didn't directly say using the homewrecker limits you to pybro stuff, I've already said it has offensive abilities, just didn't want to repeat myself. :( I don't get what the big problem is, so the pyro trades off a combo for increased spy counter, defensively camping nests instead of going for objectives or kills.[/QUOTE] I was talking about being a pybro, not the homewrecker.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37703653]I didn't directly say using the homewrecker limits you to pybro stuff, I've already said it has offensive abilities, just didn't want to repeat myself. :([/QUOTE] The Homewrecker's offensive abilities are all possible, less risky, and easier to achieve with the regular flamethrower. It's like eating soup with a fork.

How items like the Bootie Time, Big Elfin Deal and B.M.O.C aren't holiday-restricted. And how some items like the Invisible Rouge set shouldn't be holiday-restricted.

[QUOTE=Simski;37703984]The Homewrecker's offensive abilities are all possible, less risky, and easier to achieve with the regular flamethrower. It's like eating soup with a fork.[/QUOTE] Not in all situations, the homewrecker ONE SHOTS minisentries, even while they're building, and I don't think you understand how important that is.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37704031]Not in all situations, the homewrecker ONE SHOTS minisentries, even while they're building, and I don't think you understand how important that is.[/QUOTE] I really don't.

One admin on this server who complains and kicks any stickyjumper-caber demomen, constantly, and I mean, [i]constantly[/i] headshotted anyone he saw. I also had 3 people faking afk to spectate him, all of them were confirming insta-snap movement. To add insult to injury, he was russian, too. Also he had no hats.

[QUOTE=SHYoshi;37703727]The fact that i just found GastrictTank out of nowhere [IMG]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596981956777127262/CABF4ADBD717EB2AB262132DDAFDC6BF30F34DE5/[/IMG] JUST NEEDED 23 MORE UGH EDIT: Oh shit he's watching this thread. BETTER RUN[/QUOTE] v:v:v I had to leave anyway. My computer is being so shitty right now, every server lags for me no matter how well my ping is. Not exactly the bomb when Pyro is your go-and-get-to class.

[QUOTE=GastricTank;37704075]v:v:v I had to leave anyway. My computer is being so shitty right now, every server lags for me no matter how well my ping is. Not exactly the bomb when Pyro is your go-and-get-to class.[/QUOTE] How funny, i did the same thing for the same reason.

When do you ever have issues with mini-sentries in melee range as a Pyro?

[QUOTE=KonKitten;37704069]One admin on this server who complains and kicks any stickyjumper-caber demomen, constantly, and I mean, [i]constantly[/i] headshotted anyone he saw. I also had 3 people faking afk to spectate him, all of them were confirming insta-snap movement. To add insult to injury, he was russian, too. Also [B]he had no hats[/B].[/QUOTE] That [B]bastard![/B]

[QUOTE=Simski;37704134]When do you ever have issues with mini-sentries in melee range as a Pyro?[/QUOTE] Engies with the shotgun.

[QUOTE=Simski;37704134]When do you ever have issues with mini-sentries in melee range as a Pyro?[/QUOTE] Backpeddling engineers, happens often when they don't want to be in flamethrower range and you want to quickly dispatch their minisentry distraction. They use their minisentry as a distraction so they can distance themselves from you while also wasting your flamer ammo. Homewrecker is great in arena versus gunslinger engis.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37704171]Backpeddling engineers, happens often when they don't want to be in flamethrower range and you want to quickly dispatch their minisentry distraction. They use their minisentry a distraction so they can distance themselves from you while also wasting your flamer ammo. Homewrecker is great in arena versus gunslinger engis.[/QUOTE] Eh, so I'll give you that one then. But it still sounds VERY situational.