Stuff that annoys you in TF2: Constructor doesn't make this thread Edition - Games

[QUOTE=Everything;37769814]Just don't be so predictable. I'm going to shoot a sticky where it looks like you're going to run, so mislead me or get in way close so I'll risk self-damage. And if it's the traps you mean... If you can't anticipate the common trap locations, you kinda deserve to be dead. It's not that hard to jump through a doorway.[/QUOTE] sticky bombs have a pretty big blast radius, prediction has nothing to do with that, especially on closed off maps.

[QUOTE=Everything;37769814]Just don't be so predictable. I'm going to shoot a sticky where it looks like you're going to run, so mislead me or get in way close so I'll risk self-damage. And if it's the traps you mean... If you can't anticipate the common trap locations, you kinda deserve to be dead. It's not that hard to jump through a doorway.[/QUOTE] It sort of is when there's no doorway nearby :v:

I feel it's annoying to fight demomen, I always try to avoid combat with them at ALL times. The fact their class pretty much revolves around spam annoys me. [img]http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/f/fd/Demoman.png[/img]

[QUOTE=a-k-t-w;37769841]sticky bombs have a pretty big blast radius, prediction has nothing to do with that, especially on closed off maps.[/QUOTE] If I remember right there aren't any Valve-made maps that aren't at least 65% wide space (if not outdoors). You have plenty of areas to fight that Demoman that AREN'T corridors, you know. If you choose to fight one in a hallway that's not at least twice his height and four times his width, you've already lost unless you keep him at range. That's just what the class is for, powerful route and objective denial.

[QUOTE=Everything;37769919]If I remember right there aren't any Valve-made maps that aren't at least 65% wide space (if not outdoors). You have plenty of areas to fight that Demoman that AREN'T corridors, you know. If you choose to fight one in a hallway that's not at least twice his height and four times his width, you've already lost unless you keep him at range. That's just what the class is for, powerful route and objective denial.[/QUOTE] Why can't people think about pyros like this. :(

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37769935]Why can't people think about pyros like this. :([/QUOTE] Aside from a few rare cases, when you die to someone, they probably had the better plan than you. Most folks who whine about Demoman and Pyro play third party maps that have poorly designed caps or spawn areas...

[QUOTE=Everything;37769957]Aside from a few rare cases, when you die to someone, they probably had the better plan than you. Most folks who whine about Demoman and Pyro play third party maps that have poorly designed caps or spawn areas...[/QUOTE] Poorly designed spawn areas are the DEVILS work, I think 50% of my least favorite maps have terrible spawn placement.

I normally try and justify classes and provide ways of escaping and countering generally hated classes and weapons, but I really can't find a way around a stickybomb-using Demoman in most situations I find myself fighting one in. The stickies can be armed almost instantly, do a large chunk of damage, bounce you upwards, have a large explosion radius and airblasting them just budges them slightly, and as they don't roll you can't get them behind the Demo to hit him or his Medic if he has one, meaning he usually just blows you up with the next one in the clip of 8.

Pyro vs Pyro fights. Dunno I always end dead in those even if Im know Im a pretty ok pyro. Even when I go with the most anti-pyro loadout (backburner+shotgun+powerjack/backscratcher) I always avoid pyros as pyro, ALWAYS.

Speaking of Demomen: I was playing a game just now on Dustbowl and this enemy Demoman kept jumping over to us and exploding (like, he had a bind for it, not suicidal tactics). I didn't mind too much, another enemy not to worry about, but the fact that he would jeopardise his team and purposely give them a disadvantage in a somewhat serious game annoys me so much.

[QUOTE=Cape;37770165]Speaking of Demomen: I was playing a game just now on Dustbowl and this enemy Demoman kept jumping over to us and exploding (like, he had a bind for it, not suicidal tactics). I didn't mind too much, another enemy not to worry about, but the fact that he would jeopardise his team and purposely give them a disadvantage in a somewhat serious game annoys me so much.[/QUOTE] This reminds me of the time I went caber+sticky jumper on 2fort once, the snipers on that server hate me after that :v:

[QUOTE=trollbuster;37770186]This reminds me of the time I went caber+sticky jumper on 2fort once, the snipers on that server hate me after that :v:[/QUOTE] That, is a game I love to play. At least you're killing people, unlike that Demo I mentioned.

A friend of mine told me that I suck at Demoman because I've like 140 kills on my s. Grenade Launcher and only 36 on my s. Stickybomb Launcher. Forgot to mention that I mostly go vanilla, except on defence where I use the ScoRes that has more kills than my SL.

[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;37769710]Stickybomb demos. Can't counter them.[/QUOTE] I once played with some god-tier stickyspammer on furry pound, he absolutely wrecked everybody. I gave up when he launched me up in the air with a single sticky and airshot with nade launcher so fast I didn't even manage to react, it was a total humiliation. Well, at least he didn't taunt.

Best weapon against jugglers: [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2f/Backpack_Chargin'_Targe.png[/img] When he sends you flying, quickly look down and hit M2. You'll instantly charge downward and get a free crit for melee. It's like the worst kind of humiliation for a 500hrs demoman, killed by a demoknight. Also 40% blast resistance helps a ton.

[QUOTE=Drury;37770415]Best weapon against jugglers: [img]http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2f/Backpack_Chargin'_Targe.png[/img] When he sends you flying, quickly look down and hit M2. You'll instantly charge downward and get a free crit for melee. It's like the worst kind of humiliation for a 500hrs demoman, killed by a demoknight. Also 40% blast resistance helps a ton.[/QUOTE] It was really handy, and I used it often against them, with success. And then Valve broke the Explosive Resistance in the MvM update, and they still haven't fixed that.

[QUOTE=Jordax;37770448]It was really handy, and I used it often against them, with success. And then Valve broke the Explosive Resistance in the MvM update, and they still haven't fixed that.[/QUOTE] I thought they fixed it in the last update? That's what the patch notes said iirc.

Me too, was I dreaming? D:

[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;37769710]Stickybomb demos. Can't counter them.[/QUOTE] In order to counter an enemy demoman you have to get in his face. A demoman has little possibility to kill those who are in point blank range of him, sticky bomb launcher is not very efficient in that range and grenade launcher makes the demoman take self-damage. If he uses the bottle you can just back off a few steps.

[QUOTE=ThatSprite;37770517]I thought they fixed it in the last update? That's what the patch notes said iirc.[/QUOTE] They fixed the Fire Resistance, which wasn't broken.

Melee crit chance. I like the bizarre dance of a melee battle, where the two try to hit eachother 3/4 times before the other guy. It really is a bit of a slap in the face when you hit your enemy twice and suddenly you are flying to another dimension while uttering the critdeath scream.

[QUOTE=Jordax;37770569]They fixed the Fire Resistance, which wasn't broken.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/24981804.jpg[/IMG] Ugh. Wish they'd fix it already, I used that as my major demo loadout :(

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37769894]I feel it's annoying to fight demomen, I always try to avoid combat with them at ALL times. The fact their class pretty much revolves around spam annoys me. [img]http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/f/fd/Demoman.png[/img][/QUOTE] Replace with Soldier and that fits the bill for me. I hate Soldiers.

[QUOTE=Jordax;37770569]They fixed the Fire Resistance, which wasn't broken.[/QUOTE] Only at VALVe.

[QUOTE=slapdown3;37769894][B]revolves[/B] around spam[/QUOTE] Dohoho

So this just happened [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35476992/is_this_real_life.png[/img] But then suddenly the trade errors out and he goes offline. Comes back a few minutes later saying his computer crashed, and trades me, but only puts up a Family Business this time. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35476992/nope_its_just_fantasy.png[/img] You just...you just don't toy with people like that [img]http://facepunch.com/fp/emoot/smith.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Bazkip;37773123]So this just happened [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35476992/is_this_real_life.png[/img] But then suddenly the trade errors out and he goes offline. Comes back a few minutes later saying his computer crashed, and trades me, but only puts up a Family Business this time. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35476992/nope_its_just_fantasy.png[/img] You just...you just don't toy with people like that [img]http://facepunch.com/fp/emoot/smith.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Report him and get him banned from TF2R or wherever [editline]23rd September 2012[/editline] He didn't deliver

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;37773165]Report him and get him banned from TF2R or whereever [editline]23rd September 2012[/editline] He didn't deliver[/QUOTE] The raffle was just a Family Business, you can see I said that from the chat. I just thought was being nice because of that coincidence or something, idk, but he was just messing with me. So he didn't break any rules, he's just a dick.

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;37773165]Report him and get him banned from TF2R or whereever [editline]23rd September 2012[/editline] He didn't deliver[/QUOTE] [img]http://puu.sh/17U3T[/img] Yes he did. Cryptogram often used to trade me and put up unusuals after saying he was gonna get me one, never actually gave me one. Still, I can't complain, he's got no reason to give me any anyway v:v:v

[QUOTE=Bazkip;37773199]The raffle was just a Family Business, you can see I said that from the chat. I just thought was being nice because of that coincidence or something, idk, but he was just messing with me. So he didn't break any rules, he's just a dick.[/QUOTE] Ahh So he's just a dick then cool