Team Fortress 2 (And Friends) General Chat - Seiteki will steal my OP - Games

another thing, fellas. People can buy keys with metal. Right? Same thing is going to apply here, I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy tickets for about a refined or so. So really I see nothing to worry about here.

[QUOTE=Seiteki;37259483]I'll restate; I've skimmed the update page, not read every little detail. I just find it annoying that people complain about every update, especially when they're not obligated to actually do anything related to it.[/QUOTE] You're still allowed to criticize something. Just because something is free doesn't mean it's immune to any criticism. I won't use the dog shit example, but if somebody offered you a free sample, and you took a sip and didn't like it, APPARENTLY, you can't say you don't like it.

Let's just pretend the update doesn't exist until it goes live.

I think I'm taking a break from Facepunch until we all cool off on this

[QUOTE=Kegan;37259494]another thing, fellas. People can buy keys with metal. Right? Same thing is going to apply here, I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy tickets for about a refined or so. So really I see nothing to worry about here.[/QUOTE] Mark my words, though. They'll be like 2 keys because people want them a ton.

[QUOTE=geel9;37259507]You're still allowed to criticize something. Just because something is free doesn't mean it's immune to any criticism. I won't use the dog shit example, but if somebody offered you a free sample, and you took a sip and didn't like it, APPARENTLY, you can't say you don't like it.[/QUOTE] I certainly wouldn't call them out for being greedy by wanting some money for their product from people that did like it.

[QUOTE=Seiteki;37259530]I certainly wouldn't call them out for being greedy by wanting some money for their product from people that did like it.[/QUOTE] That I'll agree with. I, however, am not inclined to pay for things that have generally in the past been free. Valve has every right to do it, but I don't like it.

lets all be realistic here we can all bitch and moan, and picket but we're all going to probably buy at least one of those tickets I bitched abuot the mann co store I have bought paint

[QUOTE=Sardonus;37259547]lets all be realistic here we can all bitch and moan, and picket but we're all going to probably buy at least one of those tickets I bitched abuot the mann co store I have bought paint[/QUOTE] Shut up I gave you keys be on my side

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;37258800]I don't feel like paying $1 for a couple pixels. Way to go valve, you cheap fucks. Valve is now EA[/QUOTE] I... I don't get it... Is this sarcastic? I mean, if you don't want to pay 1$ for a couple of pixels... just don't? It's not a dlc or something big...

[QUOTE=Sardonus;37259547]lets all be realistic here we can all bitch and moan, and picket but we're all going to probably buy at least one of those tickets I bitched abuot the mann co store I have bought paint[/QUOTE] In the past i whined about some things, i will admit. I'm no angel either. I've still bought keys and hats from the store. This is no fucking different.

[QUOTE=geel9;37259546]That I'll agree with. I, however, am not inclined to pay for things that have generally in the past been free. Valve has every right to do it, but I don't like it.[/QUOTE] It's some hats and weapons, all cosmetic, that you get for completing chains of missions on official servers. You can dislike having to pay $0.99 for a ticket for that, but that's $4 less than what you could be paying for the hat itself.

[QUOTE=Sardonus;37259521]I think I'm taking a break from Facepunch until we all cool off on this[/QUOTE] See you in an hour!

[QUOTE=geel9;37259561]Shut up I gave you keys be on my side[/QUOTE] sorry this is bullshit I genuinely do not like this thing but at the same time I feel being vocal about it isn't helping all that much, so I'm just keeping quiet I guess

[QUOTE=Seiteki;37259577]It's some hats and weapons, all cosmetic, that you get for completing chains of missions on official servers. You can dislike having to pay $0.99 for a ticket for that, but that's $4 less than what you could be paying for the hat itself.[/QUOTE] But we've generally (aside from promos) had the option of finding the items without paying.

I dislike the implication that the only valve-run servers will be for Mann Up mode, meaning that we have to play on community servers if we don't buy tickets.

[QUOTE=Seiteki;37259307]Oh, by the way, you can still get the items without actually having a ticket. There are the Squad Surplus tickets, which are also won when in Mann Up Mode. If used, the entire team gets items, as opposed to just those in Mann Up Mode.[/QUOTE] I actually don't think it works like that, as the Voucher says you need to be in Mann Up mode, which I think means everyone needs to be in it. [QUOTE=RagerTrader;37259628]I dislike the implication that the only valve-run servers will be for Mann Up mode, meaning that we have to play on community servers if we don't buy tickets.[/QUOTE] The rest of the world doesn't have Valve servers. At all. Also aren't Valve servers what everyone complains about second to premium ones.

So, let's start speculating! I know it ain't the right thread, but the other one is hell and GC is never on topic anyway... Why is the blog post not there? Is there a problem at Valve? Is there a secret we haven't found? When is the damn Archimedes plushie coming back so I can buy it? All this and more in some time!

I want this damn update to release so we can all play that way, when we're palying we're not discussing issues like this :v:

[QUOTE=geel9;37259608]But we've generally (aside from promos) had the option of finding the items without paying.[/QUOTE] But Valve hasn't introduced a truly different gamemode such as MvM up until now. These are like trophies, like the hat from Foundry, or holiday items. You get them for completing something.

I am ready to Moonrake some fucking robots!

[QUOTE=Mr. Magoolachub;37259478]This is more me expressing my anger at the speculation thread right now. Sorry should have clarified.[/QUOTE] What did the speculation thread do?

[QUOTE=geel9;37259546]That I'll agree with. I, however, am not inclined to pay for things that have generally in the past been free. Valve has every right to do it, but I don't like it.[/QUOTE] This. In a nutshell: -Paying for cosmetics? Fine ,who cares. -Paying for your score and stats? No thanks. For me this update is pretty ok dunno about you guys.

[QUOTE=Sardonus;37259547]lets all be realistic here we can all bitch and moan, and picket but we're all going to probably buy at least one of those tickets I bitched abuot the mann co store I have bought paint[/QUOTE] I've never bought anything from the store and plan to keep it that way [sp]Even if I wanted to I don't even have a credit card[/sp]

[QUOTE=Seiteki;37259641]But Valve hasn't introduced a truly different gamemode such as MvM up until now. These are like trophies, like the hat from Foundry, or holiday items. You get them for completing something.[/QUOTE] But those hats are both free.

[QUOTE=goluffy;37259638]So, let's start speculating! I know it ain't the right thread, but the other one is hell and GC is never on topic anyway... Why is the blog post not there? Is there a problem at Valve? Is there a secret we haven't found? When is the damn Archimedes plushie coming back so I can buy it? All this and more in some time![/QUOTE] I reckon they'll blog closer to release, and this now is just so everyone who really cares can see a bit early.

[QUOTE=Xieneus;37259642]I am ready to Moonrake some fucking robots![/QUOTE] I'm ready to meet complete strangers to kill robots! ... :smith:

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;37259647]What did the speculation thread do?[/QUOTE] Complain far more than is/was warranted.

[QUOTE=Jetpack Bear;37259647]What did the speculation thread do?[/QUOTE] Everyone is screaming at whoever doesn't think what they think and scream at everything else. Basically everything's gone to hell...

[QUOTE=geel9;37259669]But those hats are both free.[/QUOTE] But this is a completely different gamemode than anything TF2 has had before. It's fighting waves of robots, not capturing intelligence or points while against other players.