I feel unique. My account was disabled over a trading debacle. - Games

One can hope

It's strange how VALVe can be bitter towards their players almost all of the time...

[QUOTE=ArsonBoy5996;25474084]It's strange how VALVe can be bitter towards their players almost all of the time...[/QUOTE] Its strange how Valve caters to stupid little kids these days

I think there is more to this story that isn't being stated. If you were really banned/disabled for what you posted in the original post, then I fully think Valve was in the wrong. Hope you get it sorted out, good luck.

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR STEALING MY HAT, ASSHOLe.

Even though Corporal's statement is pretty blatant, yes, VALVe does seem to cater towards a younger and more incompetent audience...

Now this is ice cold. I understand banning people who use the hat swap thing so someone thinks they're getting an unusual and instead they get a normal version of that hat, but if your story is true which it seems it is, oh man. Personally I think trading bans should be limited, but the ban from trading could be anywhere from a week to 6 months, plus the removal of the scam-gained item. I think I'm going to stay away from trading for awhile.

Why does Valve even bother monitoring the trade system. I understand that some people get legitimately scammed, but it seems like there is more collateral damage occurring to legitimate users, which quite frankly is bullshit. I hate to say it, but the system would be better left unregulated, since Valve seems to have either no idea what qualifies as a scam or they don't investigate both sides of the story well enough to conclude what is a legitimate scam or not.

I sent Robin an email. [quote="On behalf of Xolo"] Good evening Robin! How are you? I'm good too. Don't fire me yet, for I have a serious matter to discuss with you. Since the dawn of time, mankind has been cursed with worldly possessions--or lack thereof. That is to say, what one man has another desires. This is all fairly obvious to you, Robin. Of course a human would act like this, for is it not in our nature? Of course, not all natural things should go unpunished, therefore thieves are sentenced should they take someone else's possessions. Of course, this stems into the age-old(read:age-old does not imply "very old", it implies "I wanted to sound cool") argument that pirating is not stealing! From there, we can argue that "stealing" things from a computer is not stealing, for no physical data is gone! Finally, we transcend into the "items" argument, where we can argue that it's completely just if a fool gives away his items in exchange for "trimming rune armor!" So it may come as no surprise to you, then, that such a horrid thing is occurring in your very own masterpiece--one Team Fortress 2. Should you not have expected this, being of human nature yourself? Perhaps you've already scammed many little children out of their hats by masquerading as "the steam". But I digress. Surely, you must punish these thieves--off with their heads, you may say! But no, you can't do that, legal deems it to be "illegal". Fools. But wait, there's a solution! We can remove their online identity--at least wherever possible--and waste all their money because they stole pixels! Excellent! So it was decided. If one such person, male, female or Robin, were to steal items, their Steam accounts would be disabled. All achievements, games, friends, etc. would be obliterated because one child decided they wanted their rune armor trimmed. This struck up a controversy--what if there were simply unfair trades, but both parties agreed to the trade? Surely they would get banned because they simply got a good deal! Eager to reassure the masses, you tell them "less than 10" accounts have been disabled and they were all "heavily investigated". This pleased them--well, most. And by most I mean all but one. And by all but one I mean all but one. Let us now look into the story of "chocolate milk makes me have nosebleeds" Xolo. Xolo is a strapping young lad, never daring to steal from another, as his mother would beat him regularly and promise twice the thrashings should be steal! So all was dandy, until Xolo decided to be a nice person and raffle away his hats! Oh, the joy of those who won! They wanted--no, they needed--more. Xolo was out of hats! How could he keep up with his growing business? Suddenly, out of the red, an idea struck him! Why not ask one of his friends to donate a hat to the cause? In return his friend would receive half the metal given as payment to entry the raffle! MARVELOUS I SAY! And so Xolo decided to do this. However, Xolo is not a normal lad. His mother's beatings got ever more frequent and, as such, was forced to transfer control of the raffles to one of his other friends. However, this fez man(let us call him "deutschbag") decided he was not content with this. Xolo immediately reassured him, stating that all would carry on as normal, and he would receive his metal. Alas, Deutschbag was still not content! HE DEMANDED his hats back, the atrocity of the situation was too much for him! Xolo refused, as like any gentlemanne, a deal is a deal, so long as both parties keep it. Xolo was indeed keeping his side of the bargain, you see. Deutschbag was still not content. In a rage, he rushed to his computer. Typing furiously, with the force of a thousand suns, he logged onto his favorite site: "xkawaiidesufurryporn.religion". After enjoying a fine stroll through the gardens of Halo, he clicked the Sony-shaped logout button and, again with the force of a thousand suns, logged onto Steampowered.com. His eyes red, froth coming from his mouth, he scoured the edges of the web for his friend's profile! YES! He found it! Now to navigate ever so slowly towards the report button! This justified injustice must not go unpunished! As he clicked the button, he screamed in delight at having TROLOLOL'd yet another Steam community member...but the hunt was never over. Oh, no, the hunt COULD NEVER be over for Deutschbag. Consequently, Xolo's Steam account was disabled due to a mistake between friends. Over $150 was lost because Deutschbag decided that, given the option, he would rather get his Fez back and go with an ack-basswards excuse, than get some lousy metal, although both parties agreed. So the question boils down to this: Is it right for Valve to disable the Steam account for Xolo? Is it even right for Valve to disable any scammer's Steam account? Certainly not, I say. For Valve would need to murder any hacker in their games--as certainly, hackers are worse than scammers, and yet get a lesser sentence? Thank you, and good day. [/quote]

All of this could have been prevented. Had valve not created this stupid trade system in the first place.

I made a thread about it. [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80[/url]

This I will not stand for! I shall telephone Robin about this tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;25474344]Why does Valve even bother monitoring the trade system. I understand that some people get legitimately scammed, but it seems like there is more collateral damage occurring to legitimate users, which quite frankly is bullshit. I hate to say it, but the system would be better left unregulated, since Valve seems to have either no idea what qualifies as a scam or they don't investigate both sides of the story well enough to conclude what is a legitimate scam or not.[/QUOTE] I like EVE, the developers don't give a shit about trading scams or whatever. So there's really no worry that you might be banned just because someone gave you a hat and then reported you.

[QUOTE=scotty-furs;25474587]This I will not stand for! I shall telephone Robin about this tomorrow.[/QUOTE] You have Robin's phone number? Hot damn, who are you, scotty-furs?

[QUOTE=Xolo;25474692]You have Robin's phone number? Hot damn, who are you, scotty-furs?[/QUOTE] Hey. Hey Xolo. Check out the thread I made for you. "An open letter blahblahlbah"

okay okay but you gotta you gotta give me the link

Alas! I have found the link! [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1518967[/url]

I laughed more hard than I should've given how silly it was Also, I didn't offer him metal for it (though I could have given that, if he'd asked) because I made zero metal profit from the raffles. I offered him five slots (out of 27 total) in future raffles, then I couldn't do raffles myself any more and then he PMd me and said "there wont be any more raffles will there =/" and I said "Cybermatt is doing more, I'll hold up my end of the deal when he makes raffles" so he shut up for a day then PMed me again and said I was a scammer and he was going to get me banned and I told him he was wrong and then he reported me and I got banned

I'm not sure that making this a thread on SPUF will earn you sympathy, seeing as how the most of the idiots over there are responding with "tl;dr".

[QUOTE=Xolo;25475099]I laughed more hard than I should've given how silly it was Also, I didn't offer him metal for it (though I could have given that, if he'd asked) because I made zero metal profit from the raffles. I offered him five slots (out of 27 total) in future raffles, then I couldn't do raffles myself any more and then he PMd me and said "there wont be any more raffles will there =/" and I said "Cybermatt is doing more, I'll hold up my end of the deal when he makes raffles" so he shut up for a day then PMed me again and said I was a scammer and he was going to get me banned and I told him he was wrong and then he reported me and I got banned[/QUOTE] It was quite hilarious, wasn't it :sax: [editline]18th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Peter N;25475171]I'm not sure that making this a thread on SPUF will earn you sympathy, seeing as how the most of the idiots over there are responding with "tl;dr".[/QUOTE] Little faggarts.

[QUOTE=Peter N;25475171]I'm not sure that making this a thread on SPUF will earn you sympathy, seeing as how the most of the idiots over there are responding with "tl;dr".[/QUOTE] "urr guy is scammer,don't complain dirty scammer durr"

I gotta go to Texas and will be driving for three days, I hope my ticket is answered before I get there

you should have your account back now eh?

I really do hope you get your account back if you're telling the truth though. So many incompetent assholes at valve.

[QUOTE=Heroes;25476750]I really do hope you get your account back if you're telling the truth though. So many incompetent a[B]sss[/B]holes at valve.[/QUOTE] Are you going to blow up soon? If so, I'm running.

I hope you get your account back. Also have fun at texas !!! PS.. Visit arlen!

It is an interesting case for both sides. Xolo could have given the fez back, true, but he didn't have to get his account disabled for scamming since he didn't scam. The reporter was probably a bit more distrusting after learning about Xolo gave up his raffle for his friend, he probably got even more distrusting and suspected that Xolo was scamming when he denied his request. Therefore to Xolo, he did not scam. However to the reporter, it was possibly a scam. Since valve didn't know about Xolo's side of the of the story, they probably thought he was a scammer. Valve should seriously rework the scammer purge so that they can hear both sides of the party.

[QUOTE=BobbyHill;25476838]I hope you get your account back. Also have fun at texas !!! PS.. Visit arlen![/QUOTE] Yeah, he should get some BBQ cooked with smooth propane, right?

I sent in a message to Robin. He probably won't respond, but at least it's something.

This is ridiculous. It'd be one thing to VAC ban a "scammer" (though you aren't one), and that would be stupid of Valve in and of itself. But disabling your entire Steam account? I've probably put several hundred dollars, if not more than a thousand, into my Steam account. If my account were disabled over one fucking virtual hat, I would personally disembowel as many Valve employees as possible.