Team Fortress 2 Paper General Chat - The Thousand Year Chat
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Coming up with Mann vs. Machine custom wave formulas is...tricky, to say the least.
For example, an ordinary bot's health.
At first, the formula was this: Base HP x (1 + (Wave # / 10))
The problem with that formula is that they can reach to the point of being indestructible.
For example, if you were to go against a Spy at Wave #15, he'd have 313 health, which is quite a terrifying amount. And then it keeps rising. And rising. And rising, until he has the same health as if he was a Giant Heavy.
So then I go onto the next formula: Base HP x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
This is better, since the bot will always have double health by the time you reach to the last wave. Going with almost the same example, going against a Spy at Wave #15 out of 20 would make his health at 219. Much more tolerable.
Hopefully I'll be able to get down good formulas for a reference in making custom MvM missions...
[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;37951560]is it worth it[/QUOTE]
Very much so.
Hard, though.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/L3c5S.png[/IMG]
Best trade I've made in a while. My Essential Accessories for scout (Which I don't play), and my Strange Rocket Launcher (Which I got for free by a nice guy I don't know, I also had 2 and the other has 1,300 kills)
[QUOTE=AbeX300;37951636]Coming up with Mann vs. Machine custom wave formulas is...tricky, to say the least.
For example, an ordinary bot's health.
At first, the formula was this: Base HP x (1 + (Wave # / 10))
The problem with that formula is that they can reach to the point of being indestructible.
For example, if you were to go against a Spy at Wave #15, he'd have 313 health, which is quite a terrifying amount. And then it keeps rising. And rising. And rising, until he has the same health as if he was a Giant Heavy.
So then I go onto the next formula: Base HP x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
This is better, since the bot will always have double health by the time you reach to the last wave. Going with almost the same example, going against a Spy at Wave #15 out of 20 would make his health at 219. Much more tolerable.
Hopefully I'll be able to get down good formulas for a reference in making custom MvM missions...[/QUOTE]
That sounds good, and speaking about MvM custom maps, any servers hosting them?
[QUOTE=Benlecyborg;37951732]Do the honorable thing and scrape off that awful paint then slap a new lick of Zephaniah's Greed on it.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree, but people go insane for pink and I don't plan on keeping it
[QUOTE=leonthefox;37951737]That sounds good, and speaking about MvM custom maps, any servers hosting them?[/QUOTE]
I've found four servers with custom maps.
Two of them are easier compared to the official MvM maps, one of them had Scout Bots stuck in spawn (with voting disabled, so restarting was impossible), and one of them [b]doesn't even let you attack nor start the mission[/b].
209.222.91.106:27050 - Mann vs. Machine: Degroot Keep
173.208.183.54:27017 - Mann vs. Machine: Custom Maps
I thought the second server was always Mann Co. HQ, but apparently it has another map named Strider! Time to check it out.
Welcome, MaskedMatter.
I try to play Mannup with at least 4 friends, better with 5. We enjoy the teamwork, the stress, running to those 5 dollars before they burn, cooperating so we manage to destroy the Tank and the giant botsbefore they reach the bomb hole, loot is the least important thing. Although those hats some of my friends got are a nice encouragement.
[QUOTE=Dvdgg;37951800]Welcome, MaskedMatter.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111101100454/bindingofisaac/images/c/cf/Satan_Full.png[/IMG]
Cheers, Ayane over there was the one who convinced me to join.
Anyway my earlier opinion was fairly biased since I've never gone into a Mann Up game either, I preferred to just give away any tickets I got and was only running off of information of others. Sorry 'bout that :U
How's your guy's weekend been?
I myself made £120 randomly. Turns out I was due a pay rise (up by 30p/hour if you're wondering) and after 400 hours of part time work over the last 6 months my boss told me I was owed £120.
It was apparently supposed to go in effect in late April at the time of my birthday but they must have forgot. My boss told me that (yesterday) was technically my birthday, I was completely speechless...
[QUOTE=Max The Mouse;37951710][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/L3c5S.png[/IMG]
Best trade I've made in a while. My Essential Accessories for scout (Which I don't play), and my Strange Rocket Launcher (Which I got for free by a nice guy I don't know, I also had 2 and the other has 1,300 kills)[/QUOTE]
Keep the pink paint for Breast Cancer
Remove it as soon as it hits November.
I wanted to know what was that "rrerr" thing about, so I visited the dragon thread.
Certainly, curiosity killed the cat. It's my fault for clicking links, my neutrality towards furries, scaleys, bronies and such won't be affected by this incident.
Pageking and I can't link any picture. And phone's battery is dying. See ya tomorow.
[url]http://tf2r.com/ktbwpfo.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Dvdgg;37952022]I wanted to know what was that "rrerr" thing about, so I visited the dragon thread.
Certainly, curiosity killed the cat.[/QUOTE]
rrerr~
I randomly found a level 96 Vintage Sandvich on TF2Op, yay!
Oh, he only wants 1 ref?
Fuck, I don't have a ref. Ah well, surely they won't be sold in half an hour, right?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/LLFDQ.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/33vOn.png[/img]
:suicide:
[QUOTE=Xieneus;37951955]Olawdy 3 subs till 500.[/QUOTE]
scrub I only need 237
[QUOTE=Dvdgg;37952022]I wanted to know what was that "rrerr" thing about, so I visited the dragon thread.
Certainly, curiosity killed the cat.
Pageking and I can't link any picture. And phone's battery is dying. See ya tomorow.[/QUOTE]
Scales are overrated
Drew this a few days ago, I need to keep trying
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ENCft.jpg?1[/t]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1216712[/url]
I never thought it was possible but PurelyInfested has returned to Facepunch.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_9wAumN9w&feature=player_embedded[/media]
RIP in peace the 12 people that got caught in Starpluck's second ban nuke
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;37952172]RIP in peace the 12 people that got caught in Starpluck's second ban nuke[/QUOTE]
LMAO pics once again?
[QUOTE=maxumym;37952209]LMAO pics once again?[/QUOTE]
Nope: [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1216671[/url]
[t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/921242735998431638/B741737142AEFA89CE92929E0F70ED6F3C82B773/[/t]
Well, maybe the Trinket does fit better.
[t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/921242735998434569/9A442E3C8581FD523C73D033626EC83D5C2C16F8/[/t]
Put the License there because I didn't get the koala yet.
[QUOTE=mattmanlex;37952050]I randomly found a level 96 Vintage Sandvich on TF2Op, yay!
Oh, he only wants 1 ref?
Fuck, I don't have a ref. Ah well, surely they won't be sold in half an hour, right?
:suicide:[/QUOTE]
Somehow
I manged to get him to sell it to me
Today is gud day
Now this is classic TF2R. Raffle something off, then wait 4 weeks until you can deliver the item.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctUe9_lfGAg&feature=youtu.be[/media]
achievement get
[url]http://tf2r.com/kf2rbwl.html[/url]
[QUOTE=maxumym;37952220][t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/921242735998434569/9A442E3C8581FD523C73D033626EC83D5C2C16F8/[/t]
Put the License there because I didn't get the koala yet.[/QUOTE]
Keep it there.
Fits better than Koala.
[code]First Value: Single-Player
Second Value: Multi-Player
If only 1 value is displayed, apply it to both modes.
Robot
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Health: Base HP x (1 + ((Wave # / Total Waves) / 2))
Base HP x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
Move Speed Bonus: Base Speed
Base Speed x (1 + ((Wave # / Total Waves) * 0.15))
Damage and Airblast Force Reduction: 1 - ((Wave # / Total Waves) / 2)
Sniper Max Vision Range (optional): 2500 x (1 + ((Wave # / Total Waves) * 0.6))
Boss Robot
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Health: (Base HP x 5.0) x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
(Base HP x 7.5) x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
Damage Bonus: 1 + ((Wave # / Total Waves) / 4)
1 + ((Wave # / Total Waves) / 2)
Damage and Airblast Force Reduction: 0.6 - ((1 x (Wave # / Total Waves)) / 2)
Move Speed Penalty: 0.5
Max Vision Range (optional): 750 x (1 + (Wave # / Total Waves))
Waves
-----
Starting Currency: 100 x (Total Waves / 2)
Sniper Cooldown Time: 20 + (Total Waves - Wave #)
Spy Cooldown Time: 30 + (Total Waves - Wave #)[/code]
Progress.
[QUOTE=yellowoboe;37952376]Keep it there.
Fits better than Koala.[/QUOTE]
Well, that does actually look suprisingly fitting.
[t]http://niggaupload.com/images/THoUE.jpg[/t]
Dere
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