The Fancy vs. Nasty Update

[Blargtastic]

[QUOTE=Pr0vologne;22037408]Alright so you're basically confirming what I just said, the community has a voice if it's accepted by Valve.[/QUOTE]

Dude.

The Pyro's humiliation stance is feminine looking.

Domination lines against pyro refer to her as a woman occassionally.

VALVe has up and reffered to the pyro as "she".

Pyro's gender is ambiguous, therefore anyone can make any kind of hat for the pyro, girly or not, because you don't know if it is.

If people think pyro is a girl and make things girlish for pyro that's fine.

[NeoDement]

[QUOTE=Blargtastic;22037746]Dude.

The Pyro's humiliation stance is feminine looking.

Domination lines against pyro refer to her as a woman occassionally.

VALVe has up and reffered to the pyro as "she".

Pyro's gender is ambiguous, therefore anyone can make any kind of hat for the pyro, girly or not, because you don't know if it is.

If people think pyro is a girl and make things girlish for pyro that's fine.[/QUOTE]

My favourite counter

globalactors
{
	"demo"		"male"
	"engineer"	"male"
	"heavy"		"male"
	"heavy_hwm"	"male"
	"medic"		"male"
	"pyro"		"male"
	"scout"		"male"
	"sniper"	"male"
	"soldier"	"male"
	"spy"		"male"
}

[Pr0vologne]

[QUOTE=Blargtastic;22037746]Dude.

The Pyro's humiliation stance is feminine looking.

Domination lines against pyro refer to her as a woman occassionally.

VALVe has up and reffered to the pyro as "she".

Pyro's gender is ambiguous, therefore anyone can make any kind of hat for the pyro, girly or not, because you don't know if it is.

If people think pyro is a girl and make things girlish for pyro that's fine.[/QUOTE]

Dude.

I'm saying the decision of the gender should not be the community's decision it should be the decision of VALVe. Even though VALVe and the community both support the idea of the Pyro being female, it is not legitimately documented that the Pyro is/isn't a woman. When the "Meet the Pyro" video (hopefully) comes out, VALVe may still not have decided what the outcome of the Pyros gender is, which I hope they do.

[NeoDement]

Yeah but he's saying you can portray it as whatever you want, so stop saying the hat is silly.

[Corndog Ninja]

[img]http://www.alphastudiossoftware.nl/fancy_vs_nasty/img/r_gibus_HL.png[/img] [img]http://www.alphastudiossoftware.nl/fancy_vs_nasty/img/r_billycock_HL.png[/img] [img]http://www.alphastudiossoftware.nl/fancy_vs_nasty/img/r_firemanhelmet_HL.png[/img]
Dang, but those are nice hat icons Mr. Royzo used. Anybody know if these can be used ingame?

[Pr0vologne]

[QUOTE=NeoDement;22037840]Yeah but he's saying you can portray it as whatever you want, so stop saying the hat is silly.[/QUOTE]

If I think the hat is silly I'll say the hat is silly. Is it wrong to disagree with [b]ONE[/b] product that Royzo has made? Honestly, it's just a fucking hat.

[ShiftySwifty]

The Pyro's Gender is the Pyro's Gender.

Unknown.

And it will always be that, to stir up discussions like this.

[Pr0vologne]

And I hope it stays unknown.

[Fables]

[QUOTE=Pr0vologne;22037922]And I hope it stays unknown.[/QUOTE]

If it's unknown then why do you care if people think it's a girl? VALVe only does the hinting just to troll people.

[Pr0vologne]

Look up.

[QUOTE=Pr0vologne;22037827]I'm saying the decision of the gender should not be the community's decision it should be the decision of VALVe. Even though VALVe and the community both support the idea of the Pyro being female, it is not legitimately documented that the Pyro is/isn't a woman. When the "Meet the Pyro" video (hopefully) comes out, VALVe may still not have decided what the outcome of the Pyros gender is, which I hope they do.[/QUOTE]

[Fables]

[QUOTE=Pr0vologne;22037953]Look up.[/QUOTE]

Again, the community can make all the assumptions they want it doesn't make it a girl. And again, VALVe only does the supporting just to push peoples' buttons.

[2pac2furious]

Mister Royzo is going to end up becoming a household name in the TF2 community. Probably my favorite thing about this whole FvN dealio.

[Shibbey]

My personal opinion:

First thought, the Spy hat, it looks far too similar to the other hats. It looks like a slightly simpler Fedora with the Billycock rim.
The Pyro hat, ehhhh, look at the other hats, Pyro-specific (Non-Gibus etc) hats are brightly coloured, childish, and (arguably) non-gender specific. The hat you made is dark purple and beige, formal (Though that [I]is[/I] the idea of the update) and very feminime.
The Heavy hat looks like a mop, however I think that's what you were going for.

The Medic's weapon sorta looks like a mashup of the two in-game saws, with jigglebones just for the sake of jigglebones.
The sword I don't like, it's overly complex, I can see why others might like it, but it's just not to my tastes.

Nowhere near the quality of your earlier stuff in the Mod Emporium, it all just seems rushed and not very well thought out. I know you guys can do much better.

[Pr0vologne]

[QUOTE=Fables;22037987]Again, the community can make all the assumptions they want it doesn't make it a girl. And again, VALVe only does the supporting just to push peoples' buttons.[/QUOTE]

VALVe doesn't support the idea to push peoples' buttons, I believe they support it because they couldn't conceive their own idea so they're leaving it to the community to figure out. Once the community has gotten a basic idea of the Pyro then VALVe will take that and turn it into something that could be implemented into the game and storyline, therefore giving the Pyro a background (and maybe a gender).

But this is getting everybody nowhere so I'm going to drop this since it's getting off topic from Royzo and his fan-made update.

[Mister Royzo]

Okay, I've fixed all the problems with the first wave of content, I'll be thoroughly testing the new waves of content to ensure this doesn't happen again.

My apologies, I'll be sure to test [i]everything[/i] next time.

[Shugo]

[QUOTE=Mister Royzo;22038117]Okay, I've fixed all the problems with the first wave of content, I'll be thoroughly testing the new waves of content to ensure this doesn't happen again.

My apologies, I'll be sure to test [i]everything[/i] next time.[/QUOTE]

Thanks a lot. I was enjoying your saw for a while and then suddenly I saw someone go blue Medic and I HNNNNG'd.

Also interesting choices for the other upcoming weapons. :wink:

I'm also doing new loadout icons of your stuff for my icons mod already because one, I couldn't help but make another funny Heavy head and two, I already predict this stuff getting a hundred requests, given the other kinds of requests I've received.

[Mister Royzo]

So far none of the upcoming mods have problems.

[Sergeant Dornan]

[QUOTE=Mister Royzo;22038218]So far none of the upcoming mods have problems.[/QUOTE]

What do I have to change in the vtm to make the Krankesage skin work?

[Mister Royzo]

[QUOTE=Sergeant Dornan;22038368]What do I have to change in the vtm to make the Krankesage skin work?[/QUOTE]

Re-download it, everything has been fixed.

[menneb]

Nice work Royzo, I'm jealous. My fake blog updates are limited to the maps I can make and what I can throw together in Gmod and photoshop.

And mine are only read by myself :(

[Smashman]

I'm rooting for the Fancy.

[SpudOfWar]

Yeah, hats beat guns and swords every time.

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and I'm not even joking.

[Sergeant Dornan]

Team Nasty: 6 melee weapons
Team Fancy: 3 hats

I hope this update will contain some ranged weapons.

[Smashman]

[QUOTE=Sergeant Dornan;22038510]Team Nasty: 6 melee weapons
Team Fancy: 3 hats

I hope this update will contain some ranged weapons.[/QUOTE]

Did you read the first page?
It's all about Melee.

[Sergeant Dornan]

[QUOTE=Smashman;22038551]Did you read the first page?
It's all about Melee.[/QUOTE]

The first page mentions close-quarters combat. Pistols, SMGs and shotguns are also close-quarters weapons.

[SpudOfWar]

That would actually be really great. I would like a few unlocks which aren't as unlockish, visually speaking.

Because you don't know what I'm talking about, consider the differences between Bonk! and the pistol, The Sandvich, and the shotgun.

[Jimbojib]

[QUOTE=menneb;22038456]Nice work Royzo, I'm jealous. My fake blog updates are limited to the maps I can make and what I can throw together in Gmod and photoshop.

And mine are only read by myself :([/QUOTE]

D'aw maybe I'll host it some day :3:

[Smashman]

I'm making a Fancy vs Nasty page on the Wiki.

[Jimbojib]

[url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Fancy_vs._Nasty[/url]
Tat it?

I did before, but not with an email, so I forgot my password.

[Smashman]

Sure.
I noticed you signed up.