[QUOTE=Damoman;40177188]"Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water" sums that weapon up perfectly.
It's a great weapon Zeos. It uses the pyros hardest counter against its enemies.
Incredibly fun as well.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say great, it's really only gimmicky and usually not as useful when compared to the Homewrecker and the like.
Just be glad they didn't end up making it paintable
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[QUOTE=HazzaHardie;40173362]original shoe image
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crossdressing? musical numbers? robo women? robo women crossdressing musical numbers? i'm out of ideas.
Why would I choose to use it against something like, uh, the Axetinguisher. I can ALWAYS set people on fire. Very few maps/situations lead to players being wet. And, when someone is covered in Jarate or Milk, it would be so much more effective to just light them up.
[QUOTE=Zeos;40177946]Why would I choose to use it against something like, uh, the Axetinguisher. I can ALWAYS set people on fire. Very few maps/situations lead to players being wet. And, when someone is covered in Jarate or Milk, it would be so much more effective to just light them up.[/QUOTE]
Short answer: Because. It's fun.
Long answer: Not all weapons added to the game are made with competitive elements in mind. A lot of the weapons just offer a fresh way to play the class.
I've always liked the idea of a Fire Hose for Pyro that removed debuffs and applied knockback but no damage. Wetting players would make the Annihilator synergize extremely well with it and it wouldn't necessarily be OP because it lacks the versatility or rather the effectiveness of the axtinguisher and degreaser. Pyro already relies heavily on his secondary for damage output and it could add a whole new role for him as a support class perhaps dampening projectiles as a purely defensive mechanism as opposed to the airblast's reversal ability and just helping neutralize enemy debuffs making him have a medic-like sub role and importance. It would be an extremely fun concept to mess around with and could lead to some great play.
Maybe when Doom 4 comes out, TF2 can feature grimdark promos for it.
Valve kinda hates the pyro, on its very own Meet the Team video all it got was two reskins and a mediocre secondary. I want things like that Griefblower instead of gimmicky stuff like Annihilator.
[QUOTE=RevengeDeath;40178352]I've always liked the idea of a Fire Hose for Pyro that removed debuffs and applied knockback but no damage. Wetting players would make the Annihilator synergize extremely well with it and it wouldn't necessarily be OP because it lacks the versatility or rather the effectiveness of the axtinguisher and degreaser. Pyro already relies heavily on his secondary for damage output and it could add a whole new role for him as a support class perhaps dampening projectiles as a purely defensive mechanism as opposed to the airblast's reversal ability and just helping neutralize enemy debuffs making him have a medic-like sub role and importance. It would be an extremely fun concept to mess around with and could lead to some great play.[/QUOTE]
It sounds like a fun concept, but clashes a lot with the fact that he's a Pyromaniac. Using fire is his whole shtick, so a fire hose that shoots water seems a bit off.
[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;40179541]It sounds like a fun concept, but clashes a lot with the fact that he's a Pyromaniac. Using fire is his whole shtick, so a fire hose that shoots water seems a bit off.[/QUOTE]
Shit, dude, maybe that should be a thing. It sounds bomb.
[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;40179541]It sounds like a fun concept, but clashes a lot with the fact that he's a Pyromaniac. Using fire is his whole shtick, so a fire hose that shoots water seems a bit off.[/QUOTE]
But the water, man! The water!! Oh Jesus I bet it'd look so cool.
[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;40179541]It sounds like a fun concept, but clashes a lot with the fact that he's a Pyromaniac. Using fire is his whole shtick, so a fire hose that shoots water seems a bit off.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha! Pyros actually using fire? Oh, that's rich. Everyone knows Pyro is 1% ignition, and 99% crit axstinguishin'. And probably airblast, too.
[QUOTE=PSI Guy;40179722]Hahaha! Pyros actually using fire? Oh, that's rich. Everyone knows Pyro is 1% ignition, and 99% crit axstinguishin'. And probably airblast, too.[/QUOTE]
Next he'll be telling us that Pyros use their compression blast to extinguish people!
If the pyro got a firehose that shot water there would need to be other items for different classes that do increased damage when enemies are drenched as well.
Water really wouldn't hurt the mercs, and if the pyro was to only get a fire hose, it would just be like a re-skin for flamethrower/axtinguisher, except it does it in water.
So if they ever did implant the firehose, other classes would need to have items that also do more damage when people are drenched or else it would be a waste.
[QUOTE=NapyDaWise;40176746]Ooooohh. Heh. It's good to be able to understand that ;)[/QUOTE]
who the h*ck told you
[QUOTE=Void Skull;40179875]who the h*ck told you[/QUOTE]
and who told you ;)
why do I get the feeling pyroland drained so much ressources, effort and content for absolutely nothing?
only ~40% of maps support it, everything new since pyroland hasn't been setup to be compatible, 2 potential new weapons wasted, they will never want to replace all MvM assets with themed stuff, etc.
[QUOTE=Hell-met;40179956]why do I get the feeling pyroland drained so much ressources, effort and content for absolutely nothing?
only ~40% of maps support it, everything new since pyroland hasn't been setup to be compatible, 2 potential new weapons wasted, they will never want to replace all MvM assets with themed stuff, etc.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the bra-goggles.
[QUOTE=Hell-met;40179956]why do I get the feeling pyroland drained so much ressources, effort and content for absolutely nothing?
only ~40% of maps support it, everything new since pyroland hasn't been setup to be compatible, 2 potential new weapons wasted, they will never want to replace all MvM assets with themed stuff, etc.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say it's for nothing. True, the content support for it has been lackluster, but I keep running into people with pyrovision goggles on.
It's clearly entertaining for quite a number of people even with all the gaps in its implementation. I'm also very fond of the lollichop, despite everything.
The best part about Pyromania had nothing to do with the pyro or the gimmicks.
It was all the weapon changes and fixes.
[QUOTE=Yukinari;40180037]The best part about Pyromania had nothing to do with the pyro or the gimmicks.
It was all the weapon changes and fixes.[/QUOTE]
I was disappointed as fuck with day 3 until I saw the fixes.
Saved the update IMO.
i'm curious as to why we only got one weapon from the dumpster diver set, was looking forward to a new backpack/banner
[QUOTE=Escargotage;40180730]i'm curious as to why we only got one weapon from the dumpster diver set, was looking forward to a new backpack/banner[/QUOTE]
I was wondering how it'd work with the shotgun and eager to see how it'd function.
I thought that it would be nice as a sapper-ish banner. The Soldier is already a Sentry destroying class, but a banner that shuts down sentries for a short amount of time (with no damage applied to the sentry) would be a nice weapon to have to aid in it. It could also disrupt Spies invisibility and destroy nearby sappers on friendly buildings. Like an EMP sort of thing. Trade in your trusty shotgun to become a mobile shut-off switch.
Perhaps the Short Circuit could be designed to jump-start the Sentry as a counter to the banner as well.
[QUOTE=Yukinari;40180037]The best part about Pyromania had nothing to do with the pyro or the gimmicks.
It was all the weapon changes and fixes.[/QUOTE]
Really fixes and buffs are the only thing in tf2 that gets me genuinely excited anymore.
New weapons? I could take or leave. Ms. Pauling actually naked? Not even a wiggle. Clipping fixes? Viewmodel fixes? Weapon buffs/reworks? Dick's so big that I need both hands to wrassle it down.
Is it just me? or are the Steam Servers down?
[QUOTE=Wariopunk;40180942]Is it just me? or are the Steam Servers down?[/QUOTE]
They're down for many of us, I believe.
Oh god wickedplayer hasnt warned us about steam going off and now we are confused as hell
Come back, we need you, this is a chaos
Good to hear that I aint the only one.
Want to make Neon Annihilator incredibly useful? Make Spy-cicle spies become wet on hitting by fire. In all meanings.
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