[QUOTE=Markers;39069203]For all idlers buying keys with their collected metals : stop.
If you keep raising the price of the keys by buying them,soon what we collect won't worth anything.
If you stop buying keys then market will crash and we will be able to buy many keys as we want from around 2.5-2.66 ref each.[/QUOTE]
not gonna happen.
[QUOTE=AlfieGroove;39070628]not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]
Which part?
I'm assuming it's "what we collect won't worth anything"
since its inevitable market crash will happen considering very basic dinamics of economics.
[QUOTE=Markers;39075676]since its inevitable market crash will happen considering very basic dinamics of economics.[/QUOTE]
As far as I can tell, the only reason key prices are as skewed as they are is because of the introduction of the Steam Market. Since anyone can buy keys from there, and with market prices always being cheaper than Mann Co., there is no incentive to buy from the Mann Co. store directly. No new keys enter circulation, they become rarer, and price naturally increases due to the whole supply/demand pull. Once things like metal and other items become tradable there, things [I]might[/I] even out.
[QUOTE=cebceb44;39075861]As far as I can tell, the only reason key prices are as skewed as they are is because of the introduction of the Steam Market. Since anyone can buy keys from there, and with market prices always being cheaper than Mann Co., there is no incentive to buy from the Mann Co. store directly. No new keys enter circulation, they become rarer, and price naturally increases due to the whole supply/demand pull. Once things like metal and other items become tradable there, things [I]might[/I] even out.[/QUOTE]
The reason key prices are so high?
"Key prices are 2.33 now... But since there's [I]so much demand[/I], i can sell for 2.66!"
*a couple of idiots buy for that price*
Other people: "Hey, it's possible to sell for 2.66 now! Lets do that instead for more profit!"
*key price becomes 2.66*
^repeat for every key price rise^
There's not much we can really do about it, as there's always going to be some people buying from the first trade they see, regardless of how expensive it is
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;39076513]The reason key prices are so high?
"Key prices are 2.33 now... But since there's [I]so much demand[/I], i can sell for 2.66!"
*a couple of idiots buy for that price*
Other people: "Hey, it's possible to sell for 2.66 now! Lets do that instead for more profit!"
*key price becomes 2.66*
^repeat for every key price rise^
There's not much we can really do about it, as there's always going to be some people buying from the first trade they see, regardless of how expensive it is[/QUOTE]
We have a winner here.
The main reason why keys are so wexpensive is simple. There's no new supply of keys. In circulation are only those already bought.
As for steam guard, when I made my accs, I installed Metro 2033, you know, when they were giving freed codes on facebook. And It worked. And Accs had few hours. So my guess, you don't have premium steams. Or maybe you don't have games on them.
@down
Nope, You use it on the account you want to upgrade. Therefore, sending via trade
[QUOTE=puddlesheep;39065940]Yep i'm still getting it, its a pain in the ass. No way is working:
-Sending a trade request from my main to a premium tf2 account (steamguard)
-Sending a trade request from my newly premium tf2 account to a f2p (to send a premium gift)
-Sending a trade request between 2 premium accounts (Get steamguard error)
-Sending a trade request from a f2p to a premium (Steam trading not activated yet error)
-Sending a trade request from main to a f2p account (again steam trading error)
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1161862&p=39057296&viewfull=1#post39057296"]If you want to see pictures of the errors see my post above ^[/URL][/QUOTE]
Why would you want to send a premium gift via trade? Aren't you supposed to use that ingame and then select the person you want to gift it to, just like with giftwrap?
Also, a few pages back i saw someone mention that once you upgraded your account with a premium gift you still can' trade?? Is this a fact?
Drop cap was reset this night at 0:00 GMT. SO I started idling with 5 accounts soon after that.
But after 4hours I only had 1 weapon drop (a Dalokhs Bar).
Does anyone else have seen reduced itemdrops?
Or am I just unlucky to get only 1 item in 4hours over 5 accounts?
Normally you get a drop every 30-90 minutes or so.
I stopped the idling accounts then to check here if others had the same trouble.
[QUOTE=Eraserhead23;39077685]Why would you want to send a premium gift via trade? Aren't you supposed to use that ingame and then select the person you want to gift it to, just like with giftwrap?
Also, a few pages back i saw someone mention that once you upgraded your account with a premium gift you still can' trade?? Is this a fact?[/QUOTE]
Nope premium gifts need to be traded and then activated using the "use" function in the inventory. If you try to "use" on a premium account it gives the message "you are already premium!".
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stoofvlees;39067342]had the same trouble, and sometimes it still works if you initiate the trade from your main account[/QUOTE]
Nope this does not work either,
I get this on my main when intiating:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/o89dr.png[/IMG]
I get this on my premium:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ty47p.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Stoofvlees;39078081]Drop cap was reset this night at 0:00 GMT. SO I started idling with 5 accounts soon after that.
But after 4hours I only had 1 weapon drop (a Dalokhs Bar).
Does anyone else have seen reduced itemdrops?
Or am I just unlucky to get only 1 item in 4hours over 5 accounts?
Normally you get a drop every 30-90 minutes or so.
I stopped the idling accounts then to check here if others had the same trouble.[/QUOTE]
wiki says drop cap resets t 00:00 GMT but that's an outdated information, it resets at 8:00
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=puddlesheep;39078091]Nope premium gifts need to be traded and then activated using the "use" function in the inventory. If you try to "use" on a premium account it gives the message "you are already premium!".
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
Nope this does not work either,
I get this on my main when intiating:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/o89dr.png[/IMG]
I get this on my premium:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ty47p.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
wait for 15 days and you should be able to send trade request from your main account
about making premium accounts, i used this method : recently there's a flood of DotA 2 keys and it's very cheap now, it's going to be f2p but activating it now seems to make your steam account premium (though since 1 jan, it'll ask for the ******* steamguard must be enabled), either i get those keys for low price or for free
does anyone know what happened to today's drop rate? all of my idle acc now only have 6 drops from 10 hour idle, when usually it is around 10-16 items, the only settings i made it different is today is the first time i use the connect-to-server method to reduce memory usage, usually all of my idles create it's own server
edit: funny, i should've idle tomorrow, just notice i can't sell crates well since this is the last day..
Any of you remember that story about the russians that were dumping alot of keys in the market ?
If I remember correctly it was thousands per day, if it's still happening it would drive the price down wouldn't it ?
[QUOTE=radek;39079448]wiki says drop cap resets t 00:00 GMT but that's an outdated information, it resets at 8:00[/QUOTE]
source for this info?
Can't you just use dota 2 gifts for it?
Hm i have idled for almost 5 hours today but only 1 of my accounts have been getting drops O.o
Has the drop cap not reset yet?
[QUOTE=parmel;39080461]Hm i have idled for almost 5 hours today but only 1 of my accounts have been getting drops O.o
Has the drop cap not reset yet?[/QUOTE]
It has been reset for me.
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=chukkyjr;39079880]
does anyone know what happened to today's drop rate? all of my idle acc now only have 6 drops from 10 hour idle, when usually it is around 10-16 items, the only settings i made it different is today is the first time i use the connect-to-server method to reduce memory usage, usually all of my idles create it's own server
edit: funny, i should've idle tomorrow, just notice i can't sell crates well since this is the last day..[/QUOTE]
I think there was a higher drop rate then normal over the last 2-3 weeks because of the holidays. The normal droprate is between 8-10 items per week.
Are there other people who experience problems with the drop log switcher? Right now when i press it, it doesn't switch to the other view (with totals) but instead it get stuck and when i press it again (after an hour or so) i see the default drop log was still active and it shows normal drops. Also sometimes the webviewer shows a blank screen.
[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;39080360]Can't you just use dota 2 gifts for it?[/QUOTE]
that's what i did
[QUOTE=chukkyjr;39079880]flood of DotA 2 keys and it's very cheap now, it's going to be f2p but activating it now seems to make your steam account premium (though since 1 jan, it'll ask for the ******* steamguard must be enabled)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eraserhead23;39080603]It has been reset for me.
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
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Hm odd, only one of my idle accounts are getting drops :S
Maybe they're penalizing idlers now? I got only a Gunslinger on my idle account
I'll know more as the week goes but so far.. everything seems normal for me.
Just 1 account idling this past night, 9 wep drops so far and still going, and I did idle this last week so no double week here.
[QUOTE=walropodes;39082082]Maybe they're penalizing idlers now? I got only a Gunslinger on my idle account[/QUOTE]
Started 4 idle accounts this afternoon got 1 hat, 26 weapons and 12 crates. So I don't think they are penalizing idlers yet.
[QUOTE=Stoofvlees;39082877]Started 4 idle accounts this afternoon got 1 hat, 26 weapons and 12 crates. So I don't think they are penalizing idlers yet.[/QUOTE]
i started idling with 4 accounts this morning but only the one that is f2p got items :/
parmel I had that this night, only 1 weapon dropped on 5 accounts. So after 3-4 hours I canceled the idling and restarted it this noon.
A friend of mine had most of his accounts getting weapons except 1 who didn't get anything at all.
But steam is acting up weirdly, lot's of lag everywhere.
Idled with 30 accounts during the day and all accounts got a usual drop of 7 - 10 weapons
Now all accs are getting drop, just as you say stoof.. worked after restarting the idling after waiting for some time.
anyone knows the setup for having only 8mb of each instance of hl2 ? i've seen a screenshot of someone having it a lot of pages before this, but he didn't post his launch command (nor i found any after doing some googling)
It has been discussed in this thread before that it's not wise to start idling immediately after the drop cap resets. Read this old thread as well: [url]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2838776[/url]
I've been idling since around GMT 6:20 today, and i've been getting all the drops i should be getting
Nothing's broken. I'd say everything worked more smoothly today than it has [sp]until i crashed my computer over teamviewer like an idiot[/sp]
The only thing i can think of that might do this is if you never restart your idlers or your computer, which is a [b]terrible[/b] idea
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;39091247]The only thing i can think of that might do this is if you never restart your idlers or your computer, which is a [b]terrible[/b] idea[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=Within;39091373]Why?[/QUOTE]
Software aging
Programs get "older" the longer they run and begin performing worse/doing stupid things because of old variables etc(i'm pretty sure a software engineer can explain better than i do if you search up an article)
If you've ever seen the people who leave windows running for 2 months on laptops and then complain about their computer being slow, you know what i mean
With something so prone to breaking windows like 24(and especially 32) idlers, running them constantly is asking for something to break
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