For England James?
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[QUOTE=IrregularToasty;39805946]Just want to point out that's probably not supposed to be a proper R63!Soldier cosplay, but rather based on one of the runner-up posters from the WAR! update
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now someone do this
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[QUOTE=Careld;39806237]For England James?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUM49x8BKvo[/media][/QUOTE]
just saw that as im listenning to goldeneye ost and modeling a golden gun for the spy :v:
[QUOTE=Lazzars;39806419][video=youtube;0n0yoEAbHJQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n0yoEAbHJQ[/video][/QUOTE]
oh man, engineers doing their job. i'm quitting this game.
[QUOTE=Zannabluke;39806436]oh man, engineers doing their job. i'm quitting this game.[/QUOTE]
Wow, someone who cut right through the BS and saw the real joke was on me
[QUOTE=Konnestra;39797045]I wanted to get creative so I drew a few of the TF2 classes as primates. Gonna do the other ones later.
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I guess my Steam avatar is relevant in this situation :v:
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[QUOTE=Zannabluke;39806436]oh man, engineers doing their job. i'm quitting this game.[/QUOTE]
Well, if you call spamming aimbots a "job..."
[QUOTE=Drury;39807032]Well, if you call spamming aimbots a "job..."[/QUOTE]
Engi, aimbot...What hell?
[QUOTE=Drury;39807032]Well, if you call spamming aimbots a "job..."[/QUOTE]
see, this is the kind of shit that makes me utterly mad; generalizing engineer's, or other classes', playstyle isn't fun anymore.
Okay.
[quote=Drury]Take this post as if I were defending my opinion, not STAR's opinion. I do watch his videos often, but I don't feel as if I were somehow manipulated by them.
Well, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1-6t1cfhk]in that backgroung gameplay footage[/url], you literally just slapped down a minisentry on the high ground, wrangled it, and the defenders had zero options. A wrangled minisentry has 300hp and does 96 points of damage per one second. You could take down a heavy in 3 seconds like that.
When you combine that with engineer's movement speed, +25 base hp and the fact that it costs 100 metal to slap down, and it starts with full hp that it regenerates while deploying, which takes less than 3 seconds... Boy, do you even realize how cheap you are? It's like playing heavy, except without the limitations of the class. The wrangler even automatically snaps to whatever you aim at. And if you feel like shit's going down, you can easily abandon ship without having to worry about anything. Heavies can't do that, in addition to their natural slow speed they have to spin their gun, and they practically can't move in this state, whereas you can, making it harder to snipe or backstab you.
Okay, that's only about wrangled minisentry.
But what about a gun on "auto pilot"?
This one does roughly 50hp per second, really painful for roamer classes. Spies can't do anything if there's a minisentry around, or they die in 2 seconds. If it were a normal sentry, they could just sap it and that would make sure it's down for a long time. But if you sap a minisentry, a second one will emerge in 3 seconds after the previous one destructs. Not even mentioning sapping sentries alarms everyone to your presence.
Soldiers.
In a perfect scenario, a soldier would survive minisentry fire for 4 seconds. But roamer soldiers seldom have 200hp, since they obviously have to rocketjump a lot to make anything happen, so they tend to get taken down even faster. What is really painful about minisentries is the fact that they're aimbots with almost unlimited turning speed. Long story short, you can't rocketjump with a minisentry around. This isn't that much of a hassle with even lvl3 sentries, as it takes a second or two for them to "look up" and start shooting. A quick soldier would be able to spam it down before he even lands. Minisentries, no, they start shooting you right away, so even if you take them down with two shots, you're dying from fall damage 90% of times.
Scouts. Scouts are naturally countered by sentries, and having already said that minis are extremely spammable, there's no point in explaining why it's impossible to play scout on a server with minisentry engineers. The same goes for pyros. You just walk in and you're dead in 2 to 3 seconds without any way of defending yourself.
Heavies. Ever tried shooting down minisentries as a heavy? IT'S FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. Yes, it takes them like 6 seconds to take you down. But. You have to register that you're taking damage, then you have to spin down. Now, here comes the fun part. It takes like 3 seconds to take down a minisentry with minigun from medium range. The goddamn hitbox is so small you only connect like 20% of your bullets. It's literally possible that the goddamn thing outguns you.
I could keep going about any other class. Maybe except medic, see my last point.
Yeah, and no matter what class you play, it ALWAYS GETS REBUILT IN 3 SECONDS. After it kills you with zero effort needed from the engineer's side. And you can't even directly kill the engineer, he's guarded by that goddamn thing 24/7. It's like a bizarre game of chess, where you try to get a checkmate, but every time you take down a piece, it gets immediately placed back on board.
The only real way to counter minisentries is to stay with your team as a pocket player and roll over the other team with everything they have including minisentries. But this tactic counters absolutely anything, it's the way the game was made. A better team, coming in a wave, counters a worse one. It's just sad how such a stupid little spaimbot for the engineer practically cripples any attempts at supporting your team the other way down to fatal uselessness. Not even 2000hrs demomen can do that, and I've seen those guys doing some serious shit.[/quote]
It is no fun to play against. Not at all.
[QUOTE=Drury;39808615]Okay.
It is no fun to play against. Not at all.[/QUOTE]
as a vanilla engineer main, i share your opinion: in fact i consider spamming minis a cheap strategy, on the same level of puff 'n sting with the degreaxtinguisher, and i've always supported a range nerf on them. minis basically gave engineer a bad name.
is it really that hard to use burst damage to actually kill the engineer
[sp]the answer is no[/sp]
150hp isn't nothing.
Especially if you aim to destroy it's 100hp sentry as well, which has a damage resistance to various weapons.
Ahem, we should post stuff.
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old gold
[QUOTE=Drury;39808942]150hp isn't nothing.
Especially if you aim to destroy it's 100hp sentry as well, which has a damage resistance to various weapons.[/QUOTE]
that's two rockets as soldier, two meatshots as any class with a shotgun, two pipes or stickies as demo, etc. etc. etc.
it's only a problem if you focus the mini-sentry instead of the guy that keeps throwing them down
it's akin to complaining about a 450 HP heavy that keeps restoring health when the actual problem is the medic sitting behind him
if he's using the wrangler, after you kill him, the mini-sentry is deactivated (albeit still heavily protected)
I have never had these problems against mini-sentries (or while using mini-sentries), I really don't understand what all the hate is
I could find an argument for each of those points, but this is not a place for that.
This is not a balance debate thread, you have other threads for that, thank youuuuu <3
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[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39809175]This is not a balance debate thread, you have other threads for that, thank youuuuu <3
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kind of reminds me of the fat kid from Up
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39809175]This is not a balance debate thread, you have other threads for that, thank youuuuu <3
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They look like those papier mache balloon-head things we used to make at school.
It looks like each one has allergies to being stung by something.
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That reminds me... If all nine classes had pets, what do you think they'd be, based on their personality? Medic's exempt of course.
Who made that cat? Looks amazing
[QUOTE=Masterlegodude;39813985]Who made that cat? Looks amazing[/QUOTE]
Rebbacus made both the cat and maskless spoo
I don't get what you guys are complaining about with the sentries. As an engineer player i can tell you for certain that it's pretty annoying having to set up mini-sentry after mini-sentry.
I only really use them during offensive pushes, and even then, they're pretty disposable and usually get killed a couple seconds after i set them up. Ultimatley they seem better as a distraction rather then an effective means of killing enemies, I'd personally never depend on them for specifically defending. So I don't get why people think they're overpowered.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39814011]Rebbacus made both the cat and maskless spoo[/QUOTE]
I'd gladly give up any demand for the maskless spy if we can have the cat.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39814011]Rebbacus made both the cat and maskless spoo[/QUOTE]
Is it supposed to be engineers cat in specific?
What's it's face look like
[QUOTE=Everything;39813931]That reminds me... If all nine classes had pets, what do you think they'd be, based on their personality? Medic's exempt of course.[/QUOTE]
Scout would have a scrappy little wiener dog.
Soldier's would be an American Bald Eagle.
Quite frankly I wouldn't trust Pyro with any animal, but I can imagine him having a hamster.
Honestly can't think of what Demoman would have.
Heavy's would be a baby bear.
Engineer's is a cat.
Sniper already has a Koala and an owl
Medic's is of course Archimedes
Spy, probably a snake or something. I can easily imagine him dropping mice into its cage and watching as it gobbles them up, he seems like the sadistic type, given his job.
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