[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;41103694]But the enforcer is worse than the revolver.[/QUOTE]
The enforcer is a very lazy upgrade to the revolver.
It rewards lack of any sort of input with higher damage output while also systematically breaking damage thresholds that the Spy was specifically designed to not be able to break in combat. The Ambassador is an exception as it rewards precision and penalizes lack of precision with a slower fire rate and lower damage. Enforcer doesn't penalize you any more than the Revolver does but gives you much more reward.
You guys got a better weekly update than Dota 2 for once, will you stop complaining now ?
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;41103745]The enforcer is a very lazy upgrade to the revolver.
It rewards lack of any sort of input with higher damage output while also systematically breaking damage thresholds that the Spy was specifically designed to not be able to break in combat. The Ambassador is an exception as it rewards precision and penalizes lack of precision with a slower fire rate and lower damage. Enforcer doesn't penalize you any more than the Revolver does but gives you much more reward.[/QUOTE]
It has the same DPS as the default revolver, except lower when you're disguised. That doesn't seem like much of an upgrade to me.
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;41103507]Can you hear that? It's the price of Fast Learners dropping. They are going to be even more common then they already are.[/QUOTE]
Rich trader tears are delicious.
But what's in the crate?
YAY MORE UNUSUAL EFFECTS THAT MOST OF US WON'T GET! :dance:
[QUOTE=Maruhai;41103763]You guys got a better weekly update than Dota 2 for once, will you stop complaining now ?[/QUOTE]
Needs more fixes, less cosmetic stuff, less economy stuff, more balance, more maps, better bot support, less economy again and a taunt to give hugs.
Then I will stop complaining, for now... OMG VALVE STOP STOP RUINING TF2!
[QUOTE=Dr. Doughnut;41103768]It has the same DPS as the default revolver, except lower when you're disguised. That doesn't seem like much of an upgrade to me.[/QUOTE]
We'll take a light class as an example.
At time 0 is when the first shot is fired by the Spy, which will alert the victim of being shot.
Revolver:
1st shot at 0 seconds -- 60 damage
2nd shot at .58 seconds -- 120 damage
3rd shot at 1.36 seconds -- dead
Enforcer:
1st shot at 0 seconds -- 70 damage
2nd shot at .69 seconds -- dead
See a big difference?
If anyone's wondering, the new cash effect is NOT Emone. I think it uses the same cash graphic, but the glow and dollar symbols aren't there. Also, the spawn point for the cash orbits, it isn't centered, unlike Emone.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;41103866]If anyone's wondering, the new cash effect is NOT Emone. I think it uses the same cash graphic, but the glow and dollar symbols aren't there. Also, the spawn point for the cash orbits, it isn't centered, unlike Emone.[/QUOTE]
It does NOT use the same cash graphic. New one:
[img]http://puu.sh/3jHzi/73a20b9289.png[/img]
The one Pogo made:
[img]http://puu.sh/2HHTU[/img]
[QUOTE=GreatFreshLOL;41103775]Rich trader tears are delicious.[/QUOTE]
rich traders do not put high value on the fast learner
[QUOTE=Manibogi;41103866]If anyone's wondering, the new cash effect is NOT Emone. I think it uses the same cash graphic, but the glow and dollar symbols aren't there. Also, the spawn point for the cash orbits, it isn't centered, unlike Emone.[/QUOTE]
So they don't add emone, but later on adds a slightly downgraded version of it?
[QUOTE=Maruhai;41103763]You guys got a better weekly update than Dota 2 for once, will you stop complaining now ?[/QUOTE]
you don't even play tf2, but come here to complain. go back to the d2 section.
The enforcer's the last weapon in my loadout to be strange-ified. Happy day.
[QUOTE=Psychopath12;41103863]We'll take a light class as an example.
At time 0 is when the first shot is fired by the Spy, which will alert the victim of being shot.
Revolver:
1st shot at 0 seconds -- 60 damage
2nd shot at .58 seconds -- 120 damage
3rd shot at 1.36 seconds -- dead
Enforcer:
1st shot at 0 seconds -- 70 damage
2nd shot at .69 seconds -- dead
See a big difference?[/QUOTE]
best case scenario isnt always the best case scenario. there are so many factors that one ignores in that equation than in the long term in resorts to each one's personal preferences.
[QUOTE=Maruhai;41103763]You guys got a better weekly update than Dota 2 for once, will you stop complaining now ?[/QUOTE]
We get weekly updates? Um we get patches every week Dota gets more shit added
Oh well I await the first cash hustlers hallmark, we all know someone is gonna demand twenty thousand billion buds, no lowballs or report due to PIMP SWAG BITCHES AND WHORES LODES OF EMONE THEMED!!!! shit.
I love how fast I can get info on the lastest update with this thread
[QUOTE=Hideous_;41103891]It does NOT use the same cash graphic. New one:
[img]http://puu.sh/3jHzi/73a20b9289.png[/img]
The one Pogo made:
[img]http://puu.sh/2HHTU[/img][/QUOTE]
I was hoping Gabe Newell would be on it. Oh well, pretty neat effect.
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949901799/3E8B38B38ECAEF5E6D0F9072DB9530D34F9FEB01/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949902481/92C506636CFD0AE82EDF1A8BD5046B3297588BF8/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949903384/8864EEDB6E528B94A4578695C9AF2DDA17ED8B18/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949904154/32062BD6F1300FCA5C9815CDFE4254DE6870795D/[/t]
[t]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949904840/1816CF497B8E824DB85B86B580D8BAB8E948F643/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949905560/08EEC5EFD745802A1FA42E50496B8776E6DBC924/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210950003772/ECBC9ABB0F4EDF64F74CD1AD5DAF7F0C8D54FC5B/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210950004654/C3845E6DF259F993FB421B211957EAC7913BEC30/[/t]
[t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210950005338/B9C2CF99670450878888FD4486C564C345EFE287/[/t]
I hope that's all of them.
So...
Whats the difference with the shading fixes?
In-game screenies here (courtesy of TheAnthal): [url]http://imgur.com/a/cND4M[/url]
[QUOTE=Metaru;41103932]best case scenario isnt always the best case scenario. there are so many factors that one ignores in that equation than in the long term in resorts to each one's personal preferences.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, such as the fact that no one fires their revolver at the maximum rate so that they can steady their aim.
This makes the enforcer's downside even less of an actual downside, as the player will be aligning their next shot. The only difference is the lack of random crits, which really has no real sway on the balance of the weapon, and of course the Enforcer's free damage buff that required no thoughtful input on the user's part other than not being disguised, which happens automatically when you're attacking so you're bound to feel its effects when defending yourself or killing someone with this gun.
[QUOTE=Karmal Khan;41104022][t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921266210949902481/92C506636CFD0AE82EDF1A8BD5046B3297588BF8/[/t][/QUOTE]
You have no idea how much I want this right now. Right. Now.
[QUOTE=lolzidunodude;41103978]I was hoping Gabe Newell would be on it. Oh well, pretty neat effect.[/QUOTE]
Just you wait. One day someone out there in the world of tf2 fandom will make a mod to change it to Gaben.
[QUOTE=R.M.T.B.;41104030]So...
Whats the difference with the shading fixes?[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing some hats were using the weapon lightwarp instead of the player lightwarp.
Good thing all of those look mediocre or unfitting for most hats...
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new effect pics
le late xd!!!
Spotlight is extremely dissapointing. I was hoping it'd be like Dota's sunfire.
The lightning is nice though
Don't really like any of the effects.
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